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10-20-2005, 03:52 PM
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#31 | | What does Ludus mean?
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 | Goodbye Jeff! Hope it's not for long, but on the same note I hope that you enjoy your newly discovered writing time!!
Alan, as always I'm such a fan of your podcasting abilities and i'm really looking forward to the new 1src Tech Talk 'cast!
fwiw, QuickTime Pro works on Windows  but it will set you back $30
best regards, tyler
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10-20-2005, 03:53 PM
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#32 | | Moderator
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| webcash wrote: Quote: |
the inane babbling and cackling laughter that is Kirvin is totally addictive.I look forward to your podcast more than any other and i can truly say I was gutted with your announcement.It is the very passion and intensity with which you research and talk that makes your show so addictive to me
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A number of us feel the same way, myself included. Jeff's manorisms are some of the best parts of the show. However, Jeff needs to pursue his interests. Life is what you make it, and if you aren't happy, what is the point.
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10-20-2005, 03:54 PM
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#33 | | Linux Evangelist
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| "Caffine, beer, whatever you want to call it" - Jeff Kirvin
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10-20-2005, 03:57 PM
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#34 | | Registered User
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by intellidryad Anyone with a QVGA Clie (such as NX, NZ and TH) look at your status bar. Tap on the 4th icon from the left, and see what you get? Sony called it the Silk plugin changer, which is really a DIA/input method changer. It's there and haven't changed since the first OS5 Clie! (Excluding the wide screen UX and VZs here since the oriantation's different) You might only see Grafiti there if you've got an old model such as the NX70, but I have Grafiti, Decuma and Handdragon Chinese input in there. And that Chinese input is 3rd party. You could even get more "Silk plugins" if you look around in the Japanese Clie community.
Sony made a DIA changer, and it's a standard, unchanged from the first NXs to the TH55. And this is still PalmOS 5.x, not PPC. Sony can do it, on Palm OS. Why can't Palm?
(By the way, I think Sony's status bar and Grafiti area looks better  ) |
Yeah, it's all the little tweaks like this to PalmOS that really endeared me to Sony and makes me laugh when people say the words Value Added in conjunction with Palm 
Sadly the Silkplugins system is woefully underused; Even those Fitaly guys who keep whining about using a standard API went with using this horrible custom overlay patch instead of using the SilkPlugin system for their Clie support  | |
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10-20-2005, 04:08 PM
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#35 | | Moderator
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| Sharky717 wrote: Quote: |
Alan, as always I'm such a fan of your podcasting abilities and i'm really looking forward to the new 1src Tech Talk 'cast!
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Thank you, sir. I'm equally impressed by your programming abilities. Quote: |
fwiw, QuickTime Pro works on Windows but it will set you back $30
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Consider me already set back.
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10-20-2005, 04:14 PM
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#36 | | Registered User
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Alan G Jimmie Geddes wrote:
I was acutally thinking about asking my Tech Talk listeners if they would be interested in my doing a video podcast. That was just before Jeff contacted me about taking over the 1SRC podcast. I think that the idea of a "v-cast" is cool. The down side is that I don't have Mac and I'm not sure you guys will want to watch me pace around the room while I'm recording. Still, if you guys want it, I'll consider it further.
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Please don't do video, unless it will NOT interfere with me listening to the podcast on my Treo on my way to work. | |
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10-20-2005, 04:17 PM
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| Cyker wrote: Quote: |
Sadly the Silkplugins system is woefully underused;
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It looks like this is a page that Palm should have taken out of the Sony Clie play book.
Personally, I've always like the look and feel of Palm's devices. Im not sure why that is. My Clie NZ90 does all the things that my Tungsten T can do, and more (the Clie has a 2MP digital camera). But the Sony launcher really put me off so I switched it back to the standard one. The scroll wheel and back buttons are cool, but those features where never really important to me.
Standardization on the DIA would be nice, but I'm not sure that the majority of Palm OS users value the feature enough to compell Palm to alter the Garnet code base. The problem is that we don't yet know where Palm plans on going for their next generation of Palm OS. Will it be a rewrite of Garnet? Development of Cobalt? Probably not. Access/PalmSource Linux? Maybe. I think Windows Mobile, for the time being, will be confined to the Treo line. So where will Palm go with this?
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10-20-2005, 04:20 PM
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#38 | | Moderator
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| craigdts wrote: Quote: |
Please don't do video, unless it will NOT interfere with me listening to the podcast on my Treo on my way to work.
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I haven't read up yet on what you need to do build a 5th gen iPod video cast, but I suspect that it will have something to do with Apple's QuickTime 7 technology. If that is the case, you would have to have an mp3 file for the audio podcast, and probably an mpeg-4 (m4v) file for the video podcast. So it would likely end up being double the work for the podcaster. For me to even consider doing it, I would have to have a large number of requests for a video podcast.
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10-20-2005, 04:30 PM
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#39 | | Detective
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| Jeff, enjoy your change of pace. You have one month to train your cats about patio doors. Keep watching the board, there may be a new application to assist in this process, provided the cats have Bluetooth and enough RAM for install. Any ideas Tyler?
Alan, I'm looking forward to what you will bring to the cast and the chat. Will miss my Tuesday night feed though.
To both of you, good cast this week although there is something still out of whack with Jeff's audio. No video, OK. Some things are better left a mystery. | |
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10-20-2005, 07:36 PM
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#40 | | Registered User
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| Hi Jeff,
I am not happy at all to see you "temporarily" go. I feel you are letting go of something real good. You have good news commentary entertainer skills.
Anyways, good luck.
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10-20-2005, 10:51 PM
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#41 | | Registered User
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| Jeff,
I am also unhappy with your departure. You always made me crack up laughing out loud on most of your podcasts, I am hoping this is a temporary thing. You're really an influential person in our community, and should be VERY PROUD of 46 podcasts, and the name you've made for yourself!! All your brilliant, controverisal, thought provoking editorials, as well as your participation in the forums and 1src chat, are very much appreciated. Gosh, I feel like I am saying goodbye to you Kirvin. This BETTER not be the case for too long, but write your heart out. Writing is such a release and a high, it brings so much enjoyment. I wish you the best, but like I said you BETTER be back!!! You've got a personality like no other in this community, and I've got much respect for you. Take care.
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10-20-2005, 11:43 PM
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#42 | | Registered User
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| Damn! Finally got me to de-lurk, and post something. I will definitely miss your unique perspective, Jeff. Good luck with the writing, and if you're ever down in the Springs, lunch is on me.
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10-21-2005, 02:07 AM
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#43 | | Registered User
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Alan G Cyker wrote:It looks like this is a page that Palm should have taken out of the Sony Clie play book.
Personally, I've always like the look and feel of Palm's devices. Im not sure why that is. My Clie NZ90 does all the things that my Tungsten T can do, and more (the Clie has a 2MP digital camera). But the Sony launcher really put me off so I switched it back to the standard one. The scroll wheel and back buttons are cool, but those features where never really important to me. |
Me too; I far preferred the original PalmOS launcher - It's just far more simple and usable!
As for the Jog/Back, I must admit I use it extensively! Quote: | Originally Posted by Alan G Standardization on the DIA would be nice, but I'm not sure that the majority of Palm OS users value the feature enough to compell Palm to alter the Garnet code base. The problem is that we don't yet know where Palm plans on going for their next generation of Palm OS. Will it be a rewrite of Garnet? Development of Cobalt? Probably not. Access/PalmSource Linux? Maybe. I think Windows Mobile, for the time being, will be confined to the Treo line. So where will Palm go with this?
Alan G |
With the DIA, I'd say they will go down the typical Palm route and not do anything with it.
In the meantime, I'm tending to agree with Jeff that they seem to be pushing the Linux side of things.
The hiring of Linux programmers and their recent joining of the OSDL all seem to point to this.
Will Linux actually do anything useful for them? That's another question... it will probably break a LOT of applications when/if it comes out unless they make their emulator a lot more compatible.
Additionally, it adds yet another layer (Linux -> ARM/POSE -> NVFS), which will cause yet more headaches for anyone developing system patches etc., unless Palm learn from their mistakes and document their system better. I'm not too optimistic of this... | |
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10-21-2005, 06:00 AM
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#44 | | Moderator
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| Cyker wrote: Quote: |
The hiring of Linux programmers and their recent joining of the OSDL all seem to point to this.
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Becareful here. Are we talking about Access/PalmSource or Palm, Inc? Palm is hiring Linux programmers. Based on the job descriptions posted on the Palm site, I suspect that Palm is already working on Linux smartphones and feature phones. It was Access/PalmSource that joined OSDL.
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10-21-2005, 01:41 PM
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#45 | | Registered User
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| Oops, my bad
It's related, since PalmSource will be making the Linux port while Palm will be doing the shoe-horning, but thanks for catching that slip
It was so easier on my brain when Palm was just Palm!! | |
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