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Old 10-20-2005, 02:10 AM   #31
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Whhha? I don't see how that is possible >_<. Must have really used the TH so that the battery isn't as good as others. Testing TH movie play and see if that matches TX 2 hours and 41 mins -_-. Its been a while and I forgot how long the TH last with movies.

Edit: Errr, well seems my battery isn't that good too heheh, roughly 2 hours of movie playback on the TH >_<. 100% on audio and brightness.

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Old 10-20-2005, 05:14 AM   #32
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After a few days of heavy use I am getting battery life better than my T5 and better than I got on a TH55/E



hang on...TH55 battery life is legendary. How old was it???
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Old 10-20-2005, 12:27 PM   #33
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TX versus TH battery life

Sorry about the delay been on the go for a bit and the Blazer form field width bug keeps me from being able to login to post from the TX.

It may be my use model.

I tend to use both devices a lot but I spend most of my time in three applications. Life Balance, Datebk5 and NoteStudio. I use quicknews and snappermail; very little webbrowsing and no movie or music. (ipod nano too convienent)....

So in that model, I pair with the hardware of a Razr BT phone for remote access and I use the Palm Universal keyboard. I find the 5 row keyboard a must and the IR keyboard has less battery drain on the PDA than the BT one does; at least in my use.

I keep the palm power offs set in to configurations called PDA and Laptop. PDA is aggressive power offs dim screen etc. Laptop has long power on for the keyboard and aggressive off for everything else.

In this mode I can go for 2-4 days on the TH55 and 2.5-5 days on the TX.
My use model has been very consistent for a long time. I have continued to own the TH since the /E version was released, and have owned and tested the T|T, T|3, T|5, and the TX. My only complaint about the TH has always been the memory footprint and the need to use PowerRun or a mounting solution to reslove that.

The T5 was hard to compare to the TX because of WIFI difference; but I am getting more life from the TX probably due to the slower processor (only slightly noticable) and the reduced need to use BT when near a Wifi hotspot. At this point I am finally willing to part with my TH and that's saying a lot as nothing prior has been able to unseat it.
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:23 PM   #34
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If a brand new T|X is on equal footing with a 2-year old heavily used TH that's still not bad

I've been babying my TH's battery since I got it, and as long as I don't go nuts with WiFi or TCPMP use I can get through 2 days with the battery still at 100% (Same usage-patter when I forst got it would have gotten me through 4, maybe 5 days).

As soon as I crank up the WiFi/heavy TCPMP use 'tho the little blue indicator drops fairly quickly

The main reason the TH has such good battery life is because it's incredibly efficient; It actually has quite a small battery compared to the various Palms. Because of this, when you start pulling major amps, it empties quite quickly once it starts getting old (After 2 years of fairly heavy use, that battery's gonna have a lot less capacity...!)

I figure once mine is worse than my T665's battery life then I'm gonna get a new one from www.cliebattery.com or somehting...
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Old 10-20-2005, 04:24 PM   #35
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Since the battery can be replaced, then only thing have to worry bout is the display. When that gives. . How long does touchscreen display last?
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:19 AM   #36
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Well, I watched 1 1/2 hours of video with FMP on my TH and Surfed with WiFi for 45min and its at %93. I hope to hang to this thing for at least 2 years. I am just happy that there is finally something out there that is comparable say the worst happens. I'm still very happy with my TH and will have no urge to upgrade until the specs are drastically better in terms of screen resolution, battery life, and size/design. I'm convinced though that the TX battery life is good enough to not worry about it and being able to go a few days without charging is a must for me. Its a good feeling that I never want to give up after using a UX and SE T608 for a while as both needed a charge every night or no cigar the next day. I still charge almost every night but i can go without if I need to with the 650 and TH. Finally, 2 years later and Palm produced a good PDA. Not its time for them to start producing great one.
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Old 10-21-2005, 02:04 AM   #37
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Was the brightness max while watchin the videos? That is pretty impressive, I guess TCPMP is a battery hog >_<.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:08 PM   #38
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I got one of these for my T5 a few months ago because with the WiFi on its sucks power like crazy. You can find these on the Web for around $100 to $115 and then use the $25 rebate to lower the cost even more. Works great with most all Palms and comes with everything you need.
http://www.socketcom.com/product/power.asp
You can also get these from DELL like I did and take advantage of thier discounts and promotions. With the rebate mine only cost me about $80.
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:26 PM   #39
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For a WiFi unit this T/X performs much better than the T5 with the SD WiFi card, and many Pocket PC's that I've had with WiFi. I'm happy!!!
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I am a one week old and very happy TX-User The Design is much more pleasing when in your hand than on a jpeg-compressed picture and its a good surface feel, not as plastic(-ally?) as accepted ! Battery-Life is astonishing long with all the wifi, music and gambling on a new device. The screen-brightness is awesome and you want to touch the butterfly´s wing on the example-picture! (and it is not whinig) Some issues are left:

- the protective lid cannot be anything more than a ****ing joke of palm !!
- i had some problems with my 1gig-SD card, while the smaller ones worked the first time. I had to insert it about 10 times, than it was accepted and now the problem is not reproducible anymore.
- keep of the pielframa-leathercase, it is not as stable than the one for the T3. I should consider a hard case...
- i do not thrust the new connectors since T5 and E2, they are somewhat filigree (?)

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Some issues are left:

- the protective lid cannot be anything more than a ****ing joke of palm !!
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i have spent 25 minutes trying to get it connected with absolutely no luck. it's like a badly built toy..(the case lid that is)
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:03 PM   #42
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ouch, cmon guys, give us real results.
it has 1250mAh accu. so results (those posts about Warfire and wifi usage) are looking very strange, and there is no way it can beat such legend like th55 in battery life.

i think those reviews are pretty close to real life - with normal usage TX is better than LD (because of LD's harddrive) and with wifi usage it's worth than LD (LD has bigger accu). and it can not beat T5 that much, ike someone said.

Tests with battery drain from 100% to 10% (or 5)
MP3 from SD card, display OFF
MP3 from SD card, Display on (minimum brightness)
would be greatly appreciated! and that will be real results, that can be used without _some_ doubts.
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Exclamation TH not that Legendery at all !!!

Guys Guys Guys...Really

Being TH55 use for a year, I can tell you for sure, that the only reason that the TH55 battery can hold that much it's because it has a processor that run from 8mhz !!! to 123mhz. Thats the only reason. its processor is so weak !!!! that you can see long lag time between apps and loading the callender.

Any palm that will be underclock to such a speed will gain a huge battery "working hours". it is not zippy it is very very slow .
Take TEl2 for an example its battery will work for about 8 hours normal use,if underclocked from 200 to about 100mhz the deference will be way above 10 hours battery. But remember the TH55 most of the time working on 8mhz+ and it is shown by a very slow respond to anything. clie orginizer is drown like paper draw...............
Dont be fooled every upside has its downside.

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I'm glad I haven't spoiled myself with faster processors ^_^, TH seems plenty fast for me as a PDA and a movie/mp3 player ^_^. Everyone talks bout TH legendary, but people forget to say how the VZ steps on the TH for battery life performance. ^_^
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No one speaks of the VZ because it was never released anywhere but Japan in any form and because it was priced at such an astronomical level. It also had OLED which is much nicer to the battery than LCD. It also wasn't really a PDA as much as a true Communications Link Information and Entertainment. It was an entertainment device first with good software for info and communications through WiFi.

Also, the TH is plenty fast as it can run high frame rates for movies and does stutter at all when playing MP3's and working in a seperate app, say DTG. Also, I don't know of any real TH user who has had problems with lag. The difference between .00001 seconds and .0001 of a second is hardly noticable. And any wait that is noticeable is far less than say an LD which has to access the HD. Also, no Palm can have it processor scaled as the TH does to capitalize on the battery. You can underclock a palm but, it won't adjust as needed to each app and usage. The downside is pretty shallow as the upside is being one of the best battery life PDA's ever.

The TX battery life is as close is as needed for any poor sole who loses their TH. I don't expect it to beat the TH, just be at least respectable. Remember, before the TX, the only similiar PDA to the TH in terms of OS and dual wireless was the LD. The LD was just not close enough in terms of size, battery life, and performance. The TX really does hit closer to the sweet spot.
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