ralphster

Just timed mine on a soft reset, and got a relatively swift 68 seconds, but the point is, even if it was 25 seconds, it's way too long because it happens so often (about once a day with DBCache running, 3 or 4 times a day without).

I could forgive the T3 a 68 second reboot because it hasn't happened in the last fortnight, but in fact if it did, it's only about 8 seconds so you can pick up where you were pretty seamlessly. As AppleJosh said, with the T5 you've got to take the dogs for a walk.

They should market it as "Tungsten T5, the PDA for people with time on their hands", sadly, not me.

As for the 10-20 second "dramatic pause", it is, I'm sure, something to do with clearing or checking the DBCache. Sometimes when it happens, it ends in a crash, not always. That would tie in with what other cleverer people have said about the instability of the NVFS.

I do run a lot of stuff on my palm, I accept, but that's why I bought it. But either it works, quickly and reliably, or it's no use to me. The T3 does, the T5 doesn't.

Here's another little gem. Going from an identical large spreadsheet opened in Docs2Go, in a single button press, to the weekly view in Agendus, with identical tasks and calendar.

T3 - so fast I couldn't time it. Maybe 0.3 of a second
T5 - 6 seconds!

ebernie

Can't help you with regards to the delay, it's a tradeoff that I'm willing to make for the excellent battery life and NVFS.

However, using a T5 myself, I would've thrown my T5 against the wall (almost did!) if it resetted 3 or 4 times a day or even once a day.

If you are willing to list down the various applications that you are using, I'll be very happy to review them and let you know which one is causing the problem. FYI, TextPlus and BlueFang both have issues with the T5. TextPlus causes extreme instability (but for some strange reason, the app itself runs fine!). BlueFang causes insufficient memory alerts in some programs. If you are using any of these programs. I suggest you remove them immediately.

ralphster

Dear ebernie,

Thanks for the offer of help. (I worked out for myself that TextPlus was causing problems. I'm happy most of the rest of the instability is down to NVFS/DBCache issues) but you've hit the nail on the head.

It IS the tradeoff between the significantly improved battery life, and an unreliable OS/hardware.

For you it works, but for me it's not even close.

Still, the T5 makes a reasonable paperweight

Thanks again

palmdoc88

It really needs a bug fix by palmOne ASAP! Otherwise it will not inspire confidence buying their new products. I am not touching the LifeDrive or anything else from palmOne until they show their committment to fixing the T5's NVFS bugs.

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xpan

Exactly the same feelings here!

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Jeff Kirvin

Word on the Street (TM) is that a ROM update for the T5 that fixes the find and NVFS problems will be available late June or July.

helio

Dear all,

besides the fragmentation I have also another problem with NVFS: when I start the application, it is not written back to NVFS until I get out. As a consequence - when T5 softresets (which happens much more often than I'd like to) - I loose all my edits to the DB since my last start of the application.

I know just exiting and re-entering the app time to time would do. But I have over 100 users out there and I can't make them to do it...

Any idea? Can DBCache help?

palmato

Turn it off. That will transfer all pending updates to the flash ram.
And check the compatibility of your applications. It wouldn't be surprising if something running in the background is causing those sudden crashes.

ralphster

DBCache tool may well help in your situation. The DBCache is far more likely to cause a reset when it is close to full than not.

DBCache tool seems to work by setting the point at which the cache is emptied at a lower point than that used by the basic OS.

Although the tool won't cause your app to write the changes to NVFS before you exit, it will mean that when you start the App, the cache won't already be up in the dangerous nearly-full range.

OrionNE

attention: The Palmster could you send me a copy of the settings you are using with DBCache I would like to try them on my T5.


Kyle

JDS

I've installed this app and turned it on but it doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Auto clear: ON
I checked Soft reset, App stop, Ctrl tap. Free < 4m and max < 0. I added my email client, web browser, and vindigo to the app list and all options are checked except event dequeue for each.

Currently my cache size is 11468528 and I can't even run my web browser. Am I not using this thing properly?

Antoine

JDS, install the T5 version 1.1 update, you might find that you dont need DBCache.

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JDS

Unfortunately I'm on a Treo 650. I know this is the Tungsten forum but it's the only place discussing this app.

Antoine

If you are on the 650, you shuold have an update availiable if you are using Sprint or an Unlocked GSM version. The branded Cingular/ATT and Orange phones should be updated in a few weeks.

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