.PoNeH

http://www.gamercentric.com/index.p...iewnews&id=3225

So that's why they got a Palm license. Could be big! The touchpad screen could finally be of use and it could be the determining factor between the competition.

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jjesusfreak01

Ive heard the DS was outselling the PSP already. They are planning on killing the PSP, and grinding its bones into the ground.

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.PoNeH

Well the reason why the DS is probaby surpassing the PSP at the moment is probably due to the fact that the PSP is not officially released in the US. I am sure that once it is, it will surpass the DS. It has too much of a hype not to. I do wish there was a stylus option for the PSP. I believe that the lack of stylus will prevent it from replacing a PDA like many have speculated.

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DrSpeed

Still too quirky and bulky, the DS. Next to a UX it feels superbly inferior and cheaply built. The screen in particular is too small for anything in the age of HDTVs and VGA screened cell phones. I'm looking forward to my PSP next month as well as a next gen gameboy.

JAmerican

I agree, my friend has it and it is very bulky. When I look at it and look at my UX, my UX's screen is bigger than its and the device is way smaller. The PSP looks cool but without touchscreen won't be worth it as a PDA. Its basically a media device.

JAmerican

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C.L

This does nothing to threaten the PSP because the two targets are totally different. We are looking at a Nintendo system, which I believe only kids under 12 can like. Seriously, how can you still play those low graphic Mario games and other rated "E" games?! The PSP has a bigger target group which is about 13-40. These people will have more money to spend than the 12 years old with the DS. The PSP isnt even released in NA yet so why are we talking about who is out selling who? I am 15 and has a UX50 and honestly, I never did use the organizing tools because I do not have appointments, meetings and other odd schedule events - just 4 classes a day. What is interesting is that the DS is not a PSP killer but rather a PDA killer. At such an interesting price point, the DS can whoop the Zodiac or any other gaming PDA easily. I look at the PSP and the multicapabilities can easily beat any handheld on the market - with intense graphics, music and movie playback and wireless connection. Buying a DS and PSP will get you the best of both worlds and still keep the price below the high-end PDA.

Good bye PDAs, nice knowing you!

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.PoNeH

That is true. The Nintendo DS will do pretty much everything the UX does, except the camera functions. It has Wi-Fi, superb gaming, and now, PDA funcionatlities. All that for a price of only $150. The UX has finally met its match. The PSP is in a category of its own. If it had a stylus and cell phone capability, it would be the superb device. Oh, and a keyboard

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ss4vegito7

Even if you don't buy the DS this will still effect other palm users. If nintendo enters the palm arena that means there will be thousands of new palm users so more programs, and hacks for all.

SmacznyPomidor

Although true.. its a bit of an unfair statistic (well most statistics are, lol). The DS launched with something like 100 times the amount of units compared to the PSP, so obviously the DS has higher sales in terms of volume. However the waiting lists for the PSP are much longer then the DS.. implying that it is more sought after (although that too is a bit of an unfair statistic). Anyways its hard to say which console will be tops just yet.. I think we wont find a true winner until the PSP has at least had a few months on all the markets, so about 8 or so months from now. We have to remember that Sony has been tops of the concole world with their PSOne and PS2 for ages.. Nintendo not even coming anywhere near close... and that wasnt because of some fluke... considering that the same people who brought the PSOne into being are behind the PSP, I think its much to early to write off the PSP just yet.

The DS having a Palm like software introduced was only a natural step for the DS, and there has been chatter about it for a while. And although I do agree that this will be useful, I personally would be hard pressed to use the DS as a PDA. Actaully I would be hard pressed to even buy the DS in the first place... to me it looks ugly... most of the games on it look rather.. well... lame (like drawing with the stylus or using the stylus to guide a baloon) with very little story to them... and although I do enjoy playing games I really dont see myself going out with my DS and playing against people on the street (which is what most games, and the whole system is geared toward really)... and finally I had a chance to play around with both on Saturday and the graphics quality on the PSP is mind-blowing compared to the DS (which looks like the N64.. just on a small screen). Also Nintendo has a pretty bad rep in my opinion when it comes to its portable hardware.... the GameBoy advance was around for not even a year before they released the SP... so it wouldnt be suprising if a few months from now they realesed DS-SP or something of the sort making this generation of DS undesirable.... hmm.. rant over :P

Oh.. and from what I heard alsewhere the Palm software will work on a basis of a cartrige like any game... basically you will have to put in the software cartrage to access and use the palm software and then remove it to play a game. This would mean carrying it around all the time in order to make use of the information.... somehow having to switch cartriges all the time isnt too appealing to me.

SmacznyPomidor

jjesusfreak01

Since the DS has two card slots, they may be able to implement a good way to use the palm os conveniently. As for the graphics on the DS, they are certainly good enough for the resolution and screen size on the device. N64 on a handheld device, thats pretty darn good. As for the games, it can run Super Mario 64, which would certainly be the first thing I bought if I had a DS. Palm capabilities certainly cant hurt, though they may be nothing to us, they will mean alot to the DS user.

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SonyStyle

i think a better comparision would the zodiac vs the ds. i think the ds is too big for my pocket, its even bigger than my nz90 and it has the same weight.

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C.L

Back to my point, 12 year olds and younger will probably not use Palm. This is a cheap alternative for adults but if people are looking for a more professional device, they will still lean back to the more expensive T5. Also, they will have Palm organizing tools, not necessarily the whole OS. This may get people more used to Palm and from there that might increase the number of palm developers but still - long way to go and all is blurry.

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rcxAsh

I know one person with a Nintendo DS. Yah, it has nifty features and stuff, great games so far. But, I still can't get over how big it is. And compared to the UX's casing material, the DS just looks like a toy IMO. The stylus for example. I think you can get replacements, but the one that I saw was a plastic translucent red tooth-pick. Yes, not may people praise the Clie styli.. but I say that if you're going to have a tooth-pick, it might as well look stylish.

PalmOS based organizer software for the DS will be an intersting thing to see. However, because of the DS' size, I don't see many people eager to lug it around every where they go.

The guy I know with the DS, he doesn't carry it everywhere. Whereas, I always have my UX40 with me.

PSP as an organizer? Well, regarding the stylus issue. That is something to wonder about. However, being as innovative as Sony, I believe that if they wanted to, they could easily make an overlay for the PSP's screen giving it this functionality. Granted, it would add a few mm to the screen thickness, but it would work IMO.

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DrSpeed

IMO I'm not too keen of Nintendo and Zodiac's idea of audience who play games and organise their life in a single device. I mean,,,,,REALLY????? I dont think the people interested in stuff like the DS or a PSP would be much into organising things. I think they'd be more concerned about game graphics than to view documents or keep personal notes on their DS or PSP. Especially now in the era when CNET declares PDAs to be useless, regular cell phones might as well take care of organising things better than a game machine with an identity crisis.

The idea that people would play games and then organise things in a single device is just absurd. I mean, surely that's the reason why there arent much games for 'real' PDAs?? Im going to have my own PSP pretty soon, but I dont see a situation where I think the PSP and UX50 are complemetary enough to merit a combined device. I cant live without a UX in college while I can without a PSP, and vice versa during spring break for example.

To me this DS is just as confusing as puberty. Sounds like it is a device for those coming of age. It's confused what it is, a gameboy, organiser, PSP rival.....whatever.