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01-10-2005, 09:47 AM
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#1 | | 1src Founder
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 |  1SRC Forums now All-Tech
The 1SRC Off-Topic forums has been revamped to focus only on tech discussions.
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01-10-2005, 11:46 AM
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#2 | | Samsung Omnia i910 Silver Contributor
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atco, NJ USA
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Great move!
Let that stuff go where it belongs. -elsewhere
Do you think people go on general blah-blah sites and have off topic areas that features technical discussions?
The thought of that is just plain silly, but folks still insist on having OT areas on topic-specific sites to promote the "community" aspects.
Hey, we're a community of gadget carrying techno-geekoids!
Let's keep talking about what brought us here in the first place! -duh? | |
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01-10-2005, 12:10 PM
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|  New Off-Topic Websites
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There are two new websites for 1src members to continue Off Topic discussions: Starbuckk.NET for General Off-Topic and Politics & Religion UDT for Undead Threads
Please join us at these new websites.
Many 1src members already have already joined up !!!  . . . | |
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01-10-2005, 12:12 PM
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#4 | | Off we go!
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by strider_mt2k Do you think people go on general blah-blah sites and have off topic areas that features technical discussions? |
Actually, they do. It is very common for like-minded people to gather together and talk about the other things they have in common, instead of just talking about the one intial thing that brought them together.
When you go to a party, you don't just talk about parties, do you? What would you think of a party where the host demanded that you only talk about partying and beer and then threw you out if you talked about cars, TV, or hot women?
That is what this site is now.
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01-10-2005, 12:14 PM
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#5 | | SHEEPLE-HERDER
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Flash-57 Actually, they do. It is very common for like-minded people to gather together and talk about the other things they have in common, instead of just talking about the one intial thing that brought them together.
When you go to a party, you don't just talk about parties, do you? What would you think of a party where the host demanded that you only talk about partying and beer and then threw you out if you talked about cars, TV, or hot women?
That is what this site is now. |
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01-10-2005, 12:14 PM
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#6 | | 1src Founder
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| It seems like a lot of members have started posting non-Palm OS tech questions already. I hope the 1SRC community would continue to be as helpful on the new forums.
1SRC - Not a party. 
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01-10-2005, 12:27 PM
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#7 | | SHEEPLE-HERDER
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Reggie It seems like a lot of members have started posting non-Palm OS tech questions already. I hope the 1SRC community would continue to be as helpful on the new forums. |
Yes. From some of the very members that were the most helpful on this site. Quote: | Originally Posted by Reggie 1SRC - Not a party. |
Yep. And nowhere near as fun.
So lemmie get this straight...NOTHING in any post from now on can contain ANY non-tech or PDA language or comment?
Last edited by winexprt : 01-10-2005 at 12:30 PM.
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01-10-2005, 12:33 PM
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#8 | | Samsung Omnia i910 Silver Contributor
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atco, NJ USA
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Flash-57 Actually, they do. It is very common for like-minded people to gather together and talk about the other things they have in common, instead of just talking about the one intial thing that brought them together.
When you go to a party, you don't just talk about parties, do you? What would you think of a party where the host demanded that you only talk about partying and beer and then threw you out if you talked about cars, TV, or hot women?
That is what this site is now. |
However if it's a tech party that's being thrown, and it's understood in advance that that's what's happening there, one can choose to attend or not based on the level of one's topical input.
You really do make an excellent point though.
Hopefully 1SRC and it's members will be more willing to accept small asides within conversations then to account for what I agree is a human need for social interaction, even within the framework of technically-based topics.
I'm of the opinion that there are sites for just about everything under the sun available on the internet. I go to the sites that address what I want to discuss to do just that, discuss those topics.
That doesn't mean other people shouldn't, it just means that from my personal perspecive this seems perfectly logical.
I dealt with this by only hitting the OT section occasionally, and taking a bag of salt with me (for the many grains required to take the topics and comments with. )
That being said, I was pushed over the edge to try FireFox web browser and Thunderbird EMail based on an OT thread I read here, so I'm glad that the OT topics are still of a technical nature, and not just banned outright.
The thought of "One Stop Shopping" for tech discussions is fantastic. Many times I've wanted to float a windows question here because I know there are some smarties who hang out, but wasn't sure the question would get a wide enough audience. | |
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01-10-2005, 12:35 PM
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#9 | | 1src Founder
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by winexprt Yes. From some of the very members that were the most helpful on this site. |
Exactly. Quote: | Originally Posted by winexprt Yep. And nowhere near as fun. |
Actually, now it is.
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01-10-2005, 12:36 PM
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#10 | | Need coffee. Need coffee. Platinum Contributor
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by strider_mt2k The thought of "One Stop Shopping" for tech discussions is fantastic. Many times I've wanted to float a windows question here because I know there are some smarties who hang out, but wasn't sure the question would get a wide enough audience. |
I am not a smarty.... but I do buy the brand of jeans.
ask away, a few of us will either stutter or answer.
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01-10-2005, 12:59 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by strider_mt2k Great move!
Let that stuff go where it belongs. -elsewhere
Do you think people go on general blah-blah sites and have off topic areas that features technical discussions?
The thought of that is just plain silly, but folks still insist on having OT areas on topic-specific sites to promote the "community" aspects.
Hey, we're a community of gadget carrying techno-geekoids!
Let's keep talking about what brought us here in the first place! -duh? |
If you actually participated in these Off Topic conversations, you would realize how much fun they were. They brought many of us closer together as a group. Even though our love of gadgets is what initially brought us to this website, we were able to become friends and talk about any and all topics that interested us. It also let us learn more about each other as people, as opposed to only knowing what gadgets we each liked. That is what truly made 1src special. Its unfortunate that this part of 1src is now gone.  | |
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01-10-2005, 01:10 PM
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#12 | | 1src Founder
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by RD100 If you actually participated in these Off Topic conversations, you would realize how much fun they were. They brought many of us closer together as a group. Even though our love of gadgets is what initially brought us to this website, we were able to become friends and talk about any and all topics that interested us. It also let us learn more about each other as people, as opposed to only knowing what gadgets we each liked. That is what truly made 1src special. Its unfortunate that this part of 1src is now gone. |
RD100, while I agree that a lot have enjoyed the any-topic OT forums before, a lot have stayed out of of OT mainly because of the very same reason. The OT forums have become sort of a -- "either you are in or out", "either you can take it or not" place. Basically, we never intended any part of 1SRC to become like that, thus the change.
Btw, thanks for providing the links to UDT and Starbukk.
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01-10-2005, 01:46 PM
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#13 | | Lovin' landscape
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United Kingdom
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| As someone who comes to this site to try and get the most out of my '55 (rather than a techy who just loves to show how much they know) I have spotted something already which might become annoying to me...
Already the "Active Forum" part of the homepage is becomming filled with off topic posts about earphones and laptops.... Its the active forum part of the site which I log on very regularly to scan and see if there is anything new I would like to know about the '55 the OS or new applications.... if it just gets covered with techs talking about things im not interested in, I might lose interest in the site (which would be a shame... its useful)
The only use I had for the OT part before was that it was quite funny to see how vitriolic people could become from time to time, but those posts never appeared on the active forum list.... If they are off-topic, why should they now? | |
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01-10-2005, 01:58 PM
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#14 | | Off we go!
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by strider_mt2k However if it's a tech party that's being thrown, and it's understood in advance that that's what's happening there, one can choose to attend or not based on the level of one's topical input. |
True. But, I don't anyone is suggesting that Politics and Religion be the sole topic for discussion at 1src. Obviously, technology should be the main focus for most discussions. Heck, there were about 40 forums here, before the change, and 38 of them were wholly devoted to technology.
Two of them were designated "Off-Topic" and each thread may or may not have involved technology. And, to use your own point against you, people could choose to participate or not in the Off-Topic discussions.
It seems like way too much of an overreaction to remove those two forums just because a couple of people, who probably weren't going to join the discussion anyway, complained. Quote: |
Hopefully 1SRC and it's members will be more willing to accept small asides within conversations then to account for what I agree is a human need for social interaction, even within the framework of technically-based topics.
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We haven't yet been told the degree of tolerance that will be allowed. I imagine that the powers that be are hovering over this thread even as we speak, waiting to delete it if people say the wrong things.
Now, the statement, at the start of this thread, that this site will "focus only on tech discussions," seems to indicate a zero tolerance for non-technological meanderings. The word, "only," is defined quite clearly in the dictionary. Quote: |
I'm of the opinion that there are sites for just about everything under the sun available on the internet. I go to the sites that address what I want to discuss to do just that, discuss those topics.
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Again, that's true ... to a degree. Sure, if I wanted to endlessly discuss Golf, I'd go to a golf site and sign up for an account. But, if I wanted to quickly ask a simple Golf question, I might do it on a non-golf site where I already knew and respected the other posters. Quote: |
The thought of "One Stop Shopping" for tech discussions is fantastic. Many times I've wanted to float a windows question here because I know there are some smarties who hang out, but wasn't sure the question would get a wide enough audience.
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But, you are now asking PDA owners and fans about Windows or cell phones. That's like asking your Veterenarian about that mole on your back. Or asking your mechanic about washing-machine repair. You might get some useful advice, or you might get advice that screws you over.
Why not go to a Windows site if you have a Windows question?
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01-10-2005, 02:41 PM
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#15 | | Moderator
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| I don't know if NO off topic is good, however it is better than the predominant OT we had before.
I found some UDT members who posted 99.99% of their 1,000s of posts in UDT/OT. Sure that's a community, but not the 1Src community. To use the part analogy, it would be like a group of four or five people having a political rally in the corner of the room at a birthday party. I have never been a fan of UDT, I find them pointless and a waste of bandwidth. They are taking advantage of the generosity of the admin to propegate meaningless chatter.
As for the political/religious discussions, they could get rather bitter and mean spirited. Something not conducive to a healthy PDA community site either.
While I am sure that there may be some drop in member activity due to the change I question how much of a contribution some of those members made in the first place. | |
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