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Old 12-17-2004, 07:45 PM   #31
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I honestly don't know.
When I DLed the 'cast on my TH55, it simply went where it should have.
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Old 12-17-2004, 08:12 PM   #32
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Pardon me for asking but when one downloads a file via NetFront, it seems to only allow storing it at \Palm\Programs\MSFILE. To use the Podcast MP3, you'd need to move the file to \Palm\Programs\MSAUDIO. However, I observe that CLIE File's 'move' operation is very slow because it copies the file to the new location and delete the old file. Not only is this method slow but it also requires enough free space for 2 copies of the file. Is there a better way?


AFAIK, it goes directly to MSAUDIO for me. Also I'm using pocket tunes which can play files from any directories.

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What are you using for this? I only see the payware one called Hand/RSS. Any other (free) choice?

AFAIK there is no free alternative. There is feedburner mobile at http://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/mfr (cheaper but require java vm).
You could use an online (free) rss reader like bloglines.com



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How do you find VNC on the TH55. I've used it with Windows 2000 connecting to another Windows 2000 box and it was kinda ok. Refresh and kinda dicey. How's the speed of it on the TH55?


I'm using PalmVNC 2.0 and the speed is ok. http://palmvnc2.free.fr/
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MicroVNC isn't free but it's a huge upgrade compared to PalmVNC. It supports compression and server side scaling. Suggest you check this out if you continue to use VNC on the Palm.
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Old 12-19-2004, 04:48 PM   #34
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Well, I got it. Rather than going completely OT here, I'll be updating my thoughts on it here
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Old 12-19-2004, 06:24 PM   #35
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I'm sorry but I disagree with almost EVERYTHING said in this podcast trying to rationalize the T5.


I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that podcast was terrible.

I listened to it today and shook my head throughout it. I really have no problem with Palm including Bluetooth, but at a $400 price point Wi-Fi had better be on there as well. Despite what was said in the podcast Bluetooth is not very good for surfing or streaming music. Wi-Fi is vastly superior not to mention how expensive it is using your cell phone for portable internet. I have Bluetooth on my Zodiac and I doubt I will ever use it for anything. Wi-Fi support is what got me to finally buy a Zodiac. The second podcast was pretty sad in my opinion. Trying to justify the T5 and trying to trump up Bluetooth which is a technology few people care about. Wi-Fi is the future of mobile devices and Palmone needs to get on board with their high end devices.
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:05 PM   #36
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Well, I got it. Rather than going completely OT here, I'll be updating my thoughts on it here
Thanks for the link. I look forward to hearing more. The $2,000 price tag is a limiting factor for me, but I have never let that keep me from looking and reading. Again, thanks for sharing!

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By the way, I read somewhere when someone uses his U750P with a portable bluetooth keyboard and a portable bluetooth mouse to make the perfect road warrior system. At least, he thought so!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that podcast was terrible.

I listened to it today and shook my head throughout it. I really have no problem with Palm including Bluetooth, but at a $400 price point Wi-Fi had better be on there as well. Despite what was said in the podcast Bluetooth is not very good for surfing or streaming music. Wi-Fi is vastly superior not to mention how expensive it is using your cell phone for portable internet. I have Bluetooth on my Zodiac and I doubt I will ever use it for anything. Wi-Fi support is what got me to finally buy a Zodiac. The second podcast was pretty sad in my opinion. Trying to justify the T5 and trying to trump up Bluetooth which is a technology few people care about. Wi-Fi is the future of mobile devices and Palmone needs to get on board with their high end devices.
I think he did a good job even though you might not agree with him. We do not create articles and/or podcasts with the assumption that everyone will agree with them, but we do want to provide a quality presentation. I think Jeff did that, and he is only getting better with the podcasts. Whether you agree with him or not, well, that is another story.

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Old 12-19-2004, 09:37 PM   #38
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I think he did a good job even though you might not agree with him. We do not create articles and/or podcasts with the assumption that everyone will agree with them, but we do want to provide a quality presentation. I think Jeff did that, and he is only getting better with the podcasts. Whether you agree with him or not, well, that is another story.

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Me not agreeing with the podcast had nothing to do with thinking it was terrible. Jeff did a very poor job of proving his point about the greatness of the T5 and especially Bluetooth. It came off as anything, but an informed, quality opinion. He sounded more like someone making excuses for the T5 and Bluetooth than someone trying to give an informed opinion about the two.

His examples for why Bluetooth was better than Wi-Fi really struck me as far fetched and not something really easier or better than Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi is better to have in your phone? Really, I would think my PDA with a large Lithium Ion battery that I can surf with over Wi-Fi for hours would be a better choice than my tiny phone that would probably die in 30 minutes or less.

Sorry, but I have used Bluetooth to surf on a T3 and I have used Wi-Fi with the Clie and the Zodiac. Wi-Fi wins hands down. I'm all for both, but there is no excuse for it not being included in the T5 at the $400 price point when the Pocket PC competition puts both in devices costing less.

Sorry, but I stand by my opinion that it was a terrible podcast and not just because I don't agree with him. I thought he did a great job on the first one and did a much better job of presenting his information.
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Soft input tefhnology

Hello,

I'm french and my poor english doesn't let me understand what it is about at 15 minute of the podcast... something that have to do with soft input technology and COBOL, but could anybody explain me what Jeff meant?

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I'm french too. I don't have the time to listen to the podcast now but I'm pretty sure there is nothing about COBOL. I think you misheard COBALT (the new palm OS) . To be honest I also thought he said COBOL :-D I guess that's because COBALT in french sounds very different : co bal T(eu).
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that podcast was terrible.

I listened to it today and shook my head throughout it. I really have no problem with Palm including Bluetooth, but at a $400 price point Wi-Fi had better be on there as well. Despite what was said in the podcast Bluetooth is not very good for surfing or streaming music. Wi-Fi is vastly superior not to mention how expensive it is using your cell phone for portable internet. I have Bluetooth on my Zodiac and I doubt I will ever use it for anything. Wi-Fi support is what got me to finally buy a Zodiac. The second podcast was pretty sad in my opinion. Trying to justify the T5 and trying to trump up Bluetooth which is a technology few people care about. Wi-Fi is the future of mobile devices and Palmone needs to get on board with their high end devices.


After listening to the podcast on the way into work this morning, I'd more or less agree with your assessment.

Although there's nothing wrong with a bluetooth PAN, the "anti-WiFi" slant made no sense, as I would NEVER get a new PDA without it built in. When my UX gives up the ghost, I'll be going to PPC if there's no PalmOS device with WiFi built-in. It's been too practical to lose for me. WiFi has probably saved me over $300 in cab fares and hours of travel time to access the company FreeBSD server.

Not to mention being able to download mp3s off my server if I REALLY want a particular song, as I can be listening to a track in the background while I do so, or hitting receive on the mail app just about anywhere, and getting mail.

Overall, it was the poorly reasoned "anti-WiFi" arguments that really turned me off of this podcast. I would have enjoyed much more if Jeff had limited the WiFi comments to...

"For those without a WiFi-enabled PDA, such as the new T5..." and left it at that.
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I still think Jeff's examples were realistic. How he described Bluetooth as a USB extension and WiFi as an ethernet extension is the most layman description I've heard of. Those who are looking for WiFi are actually those who basically want to connect their device online. Those who are into Bluetooth basically wants to connect their device with other devices. Again, Bluetooth and WiFi are not aimed to be compared.

As for the price, as what Lance said, you can get a T5 now for $320 (link). But then, price has always been the issue -- remember the NZ90, UX50, TH55, iQue 3600 -- but a lot still bought them. The only gripe that I have is why PalmOne requires it's PalmOne WiFi SD card to be used on the T5 and not the Sandisk Wifi SD (about three times cheaper). Tapwave released a Zodiac WiFi driver that will work for both brands, why does PalmOne have to block non-PalmOne WiFi SD's.

Lastly, for those who has seen the T5 only through specs or through the stores, I hope, if you have the means, that you can try it out for a week and see how it has improved from previous PalmOne models. For me, the thought that I don't have to worry about losing all my data and settings even if I lose power is such a convenience -- no more daily backups.
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The only gripe that I have is why PalmOne requires it's PalmOne WiFi SD card to be used on the T5 and not the Sandisk Wifi SD (about three times cheaper). Tapwave released a Zodiac WiFi driver that will work for both brands, why does PalmOne have to block non-PalmOne WiFi SD's.


Jeff mentioned this as well in the podcast. It does look like Palmone's reasons for not including Wi-Fi on some of their devices and especially for blocking the Sandisk card revolves at least partly around profit. I don't want to see Palmone go bankrupt, but I wish they could find a way to be profitable without using tactics like this.

It made my choice to go with Tapwave over Palmone very easy.
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The issue with the T5: It all makes sense (wi-fi only being wanted by power users) execpt for the fact that the onlypeople who are going to be paying $400 for a PDA are power users and corporate folks, both of which want wi-fi. If the price was lower, it would be a plausible explanation, but not as the high-end model. High-end models are the ones that power-users get because they do power-user things.

Actually, the high-end models from PalmOne are the $600 Treos. The T5 is mid-range. To an executive, $400 isn't much, really. You're thinking like a consumer that has to buy one with his own money. My dad got a T5 for work and his boss (a VP of the company) signed off on his PO without batting an eye. That was for the T5, WiFi card, IR keyboard and some software.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that podcast was terrible.

I listened to it today and shook my head throughout it. I really have no problem with Palm including Bluetooth, but at a $400 price point Wi-Fi had better be on there as well. Despite what was said in the podcast Bluetooth is not very good for surfing or streaming music. Wi-Fi is vastly superior not to mention how expensive it is using your cell phone for portable internet. I have Bluetooth on my Zodiac and I doubt I will ever use it for anything. Wi-Fi support is what got me to finally buy a Zodiac. The second podcast was pretty sad in my opinion. Trying to justify the T5 and trying to trump up Bluetooth which is a technology few people care about. Wi-Fi is the future of mobile devices and Palmone needs to get on board with their high end devices.

Ow.

I don't get you people that try to compare BT to WiFi on cost. I pay $15/month to get unlimited CDMA (80-100 kbps) internet access on my phone. I'd pay significantly more if I had to use the for-pay hotspots here in Denver. If you're not in NYC, there just aren't that many free hotspots out there. Cellular is actually cheaper, at least here in the midwest.

I'm not saying WiFi is bad, and I'm most definitely not "anti-WiFi". But I don't think it belongs in a PDA. It belongs with all the other communications technology. And if your phone's battery is too light to handle that, I'm not surprised. A phone with built-in WiFi would certainly be designed with more juice. I'm not talking about retrofitting what you have, I'm talking about designing new hardware that makes more sense.
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