Join Date: Dec 2004
Originally Posted by azalin7
...Gomadic Cable linking...Sony Clie ... to Cell Phone ...do I have to have the Mobile Office Kit to connect to Verizon ... ?...HELP!
Just Say NO ! to Verizon
And don't let the Rat B**** at Verizon's store tell you any different ! They make their money off of selling you an endless supply of stuff you don't need (on commission ! - So it's in thier own best interest to rape your wallet !). Nor do you need to purchase "Web Access" for (yet another) $5.00 a month more. You have Everything
you need right in your hand (so to speak - I mean - that didn't sound too good having mentioned rape a second before - Please keep all hands and trays in the upright position during this class - no, wait, that was worse -
Before we start - you need to know that Verizon's "QNC" (Quick Network Connection) is FREE
with EVERY Verizon account (except the pre-pay). You should also know that if your cell phone plan has free nights and weekends, then connecting during that time is *REALLY* FREE !
Connecting during the day (air time billable - which counts against your minutes, just like when using the phone as voice) only counts against your plan minutes, as as long as you don't go over your plan, it costs nothing extra to use your cell phone in this manner. QNC runs at (typical) 14.4, but I have heard of some folks claiming to get a slight burst now and then... YMMV!
You should really read this whole response, before doing anything - I can't stress enough how important that is !!! PLEASE !! DO NOT CALL AND ASK Verizon how to do this - there has been talk lately that they might start charging for this "service" (remember waaaay back when the Internet first started, and the Local Bells wanted to charge extra for "Data Calls" - as if somehow, magically, it cost more than a voice call (which was back when everyone was on a dialup shell account) - well, I DO !) So, while they won't *really* be charging extra for this anytime soon, why piss them off by calling them and asking them endless questions about it ? That's why, I've taken the time, and am happy to present ...
THE VERY UNOFFICIAL
Verizon Cell to PDA Tutorial - 101
NOTE : YOU *MUST* READ THIS ENTIRE POST
**BEFORE** DOING ANYTHING
THERE *WILL* BE A TEST ON THIS CLASS !
If You Fail This Test, You Will NOT Be Allowed To Connect ! Here's what you need to do... (1)
You need to set up a connection, (2)
Then a network
, and finally, (3)
Tell any of the apps that you want to use to connect to the internet with, to use that Network Connection
(those two settings combined (the connection and the network, equal the "Network Connection") - think of it like first setting up your modem in your PC, and then configuring the settings to your ISP, and you should get the idea). Here's How: (1) Set up a connection;
Go to your PREFS
(Preferences) and click on "Connection"
. (on the top, right hand corner). Then, click on "New"
. Next, give it a name (I strongly suggest you call it "Verizon Low"
. Next, click on "Connect To"
and choose "PC"
. Bet ya thought it was supposed to be "modem" didn't cha ! The reason for connecting to "PC" as opposed to "Modem" is simple - chances are (here's where I go doing that assuming thing again...) your phone is a digital phone (since it's nearly impossible to find an analog only cell phone nowadays), and since there is no MOdulation / DEModulation (as in MODEM - get it?) going on, because you're connecting a digital device to a digital device, the setting needs to be "PC". Naturally, you have to do that via a cable, so now go to "VIA"
and choose "Cable/Cradle"
Phew ! I'm tired already - but hang on, there's more to come.
Now, on to Screen 2 - Click on "Details"
and then on "Speed"
. Here's where you have to choose for yourself... MOST phones can go 115 (as in 115,200 bps) but you need to be sure of this (!), as it is solely dependant on your phone ! The "old standby" of choosing 57 (as in 57.600 bps) should
work for most phones, so if your not sure right now, just pick the slower 57 speed, and check on your phone (and adjust it) later. Either way, Choose one
so we can get one with this... I get grumpy with out my coffee. This is only the speed at which data flows through the cable, between your phone and PDA - NOT the speed at which you will connect to the Internet at ! Now click on "Flow Control"
and choose "Automatic"
. FINALLY (!) Click on "OK"
and then (screen 1 again) on "OK"
You are now the proud owner of a bouncing baby connection called "Verizon Low". Now it's time to tell the little Brat, who his daddy is.... (But first, I REALLY need to get that cup of coffee... )
(2) Set up a Network;
Go to (actually, you should still be there - so don't really go anywhere!) your PREFS (Preferences) and click on "Networks" (on the top, right hand corner). Then, click on "Service". Now you have to choose one from the list that you aren't going to use (and since I use to slave for AT&T, that's always my first choice to overwrite !). Change the name by highlighting it, and rename it "Verizon Low QNC". For your "User Name", enter "qnc" (and this MUST be in lower case !), and for your "password", pay me a hundred bucks ! - No ! - Just kidding. Enter "qnc" (and this MUST also be in lower case !). Now you get to introduce this "New Daddy" to his baby. For "Connection", choose "Verizon Low" from the drop down list.
Now, on to Screen 2 - Click on "Details" so we can tell it how to connect. For "Connection Type" choose "PPP" from the drop down list. For "Idle Timeout", you have to choose one from the drop down list. I normally pick "one minute", but some folks like waiting for ever to see if their connection timed out, so do as you please (Hey ! It's your minutes - during any day time connections - your using !). One comment about this in case your doing more than fetching email - if you notice that alot of your web pages aren't loading completely, change this to "Never". Now you need to check the box marked "Query DNS" and also check the box marked "IP Address" (so it's default is "Automatic").
Now, on to Screen 3 - Click on "Script" so we can tell Verizon what they can go do....and how (!). For the Log On Script, here's all we need to enter... Change the first line to "Send" and enter "ATDT#777" (notice - no spaces). Now, change the second line to"Send CR" and the third line to "Delay" and enter a number "4", and finally, the fourth line to "End". Now click on the "OK" and when you get back to screen 2, click on the "OK" which will bring you back to screen 1.
You are now the proud owner of a Verizon Low Speed Connection.
Now, you need to go to your application (email, web browser, whatever) and using the pull down options, tell it to use that Network Connection. THEN try connecting.
As a test (to confirm the PDA is dialing, the wires are good, and the phone is passing thru the data), you can follow the above directions, and make a CONNECTION called "TEST", connecting to "MODEM", via "CABLE/CRADLE", dialing "TouchTone", at LOUD "VOLUME", and then make a NETWORK config called "Test", enter NO user name, NO password, using the CONNECTION "TEST" we just made, and under "details" enter "PPP" and check both boxes, and leave the SCRIPT as it is - keep on pressing OK until you see the "CONNECT" button, and hit it to see if your cell phone can call your house phone - if your house phone rings, then it's working (or maybe it's not - better answer and see who it is !).
Now it's time to talk about that High Speed Verizon Connection, But first, I REALLY need to get ANOTHER cup of coffee... - Did I mention I was getting sleepy... ?).
To Connect to Verizon's 3G (3rd Generation) Network, also called the "Express Network", at speeds better than 14.4 (closer to 56, and some say 128 on the west coast), you need to pay me two hundred bucks ! - No - REALLY ! I'm NOT Kidding !
... OK, I'll just add it on to your bill...
By the way... as a side note - The MOK (Mobile Office Kit) sold by Verizon, is phone specific, and is a CD for your LAPTOP PC !!! Users wanting to connect their Cell phones to their Laptops often purchase this package as the scripting required tends to get a little involved, and the software makes it easier - PDA users don't need this software, can't do anything with it, and already have the connection and network library built into their PDA's !
Follow the above directions, and make a CONNECTION called "VERIZON HIGH", connecting to "PC", via "CABLE/CRADLE", and under "Details", set the "Speed" to the highest you can, and the "Flow Control" to "ON". Then make a NETWORK config called "Verizon High 3G", enter YOUR "cell phone number" (no dashes - just area code followed by your number - like 1234657980 ) at (@) "vzw3g.com" (this MUST be all lower case), and enter "vzw" as the password (again - this MUST be all lower case). Use the "Connection" "VERIZON HIGH" we just made, and under "details" enter "PPP" and check both boxes, and use the SCRIPT we made for the low speed connection (Send = ATDT#777, SendCR, Delay=4. End) and that's it ! - keep on pressing OK until your out and go surf (remember to change the Network Connection in your Apps !).
Note: When you are outside of Express Network coverage your 14.4 connection (using qnc) will automatically work without changing anything you set up for 3G because outside of 1X (3G) coverage, the phone will fall back and automatically use the 14.4 (IS-95) network. So, now that you know that, all you really need to configure on your phone is a setup for the 3G network, and your all set ! Now, aren't you glad you followed the instructions and read thru the entire post, BEFORE you did anything ?? You DID follow the directions and read this entire post FIRST and thus, passed the test - DIDN'T YOU ??? If not, and you've now wasted a half hour of your life setting up your phone as you read this post line by line, so please send me your two hundred dollars via paypal to "User@127.0.0.1" - I will need that money to bribe your cell phone provider into letting you connect to the internet using your cell phone, since you failed. If however, you passed with no problem then please remember to give back and share next time you read a post - you may be the one with the answer - even if you don't know it !
Gomadic has a nice set of SUPPORT PAGES but the scripts they tell you to enter are based on older config's, and as a rule (with pretty much all Cell Phone Providers, which in this case are also acting as your Internet Provider - ISP) those scripts don't really apply anymore. While these pages *are* a worthwhile read for most "PDA to Cell Phone Provider" connections, they are only a starting point. Nowadays, most of the software (PDA included) parses the "commands" to the cell phones (and thus, out to the ISP's) so scripting isn't really necessary. Keep this in mind whenever starting out trying to connect - start small, and build bigger.
Now that the test has been given, and class is dismissed, I'm off to take a well deserved nap... Nite Nite Everyone ! ZZZzzzz
HAPPY SURFING !
Last edited by IM2694582 : 12-09-2004 at 02:54 AM.
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