Lance

I am reading through his thread right now. I will try to comment on his experience with what I have experienced, soon. No promises tonight, but soon.

I am looking into several applications, but I will say that the new version of Palm OS 5 might give developers a few things to update in order to make their applications fully compatible with the new version.

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Lance

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Speedy (Portrait Mode) T3: 1899, T5: 1852
Speedy (Landscape Mode) T3: 1034, T5: 1415

VFSMark - Average for Internal Memory on T5: 825
VFSMark - Average for SD Card* on T5: 414
VFSMark - Average for SD Card* on T3: 606
* Lexar 256 MB SD Card

File Create - T3: 283%, T5: 292%
File Delete - T3: 272%, T5: 268%
File Write - T3: 59%, T5: 61%
File Read - T3: 760%, T5: 521%
File Seek - T3: 983%, T5: 842%
DB Export - T3: 173%, T5: 198%
DB Import - T3: 847%, T5: 311%
Record Access - T3: 1096%, T5: 738%
Resource Access - T3: 1010%, T5: 724%
VFSMark - T3: 609, T5: 439

Kinoma was out of sync the longer I let a video play.

MMPlayer worked very well. I think it played back even better on the T5 than on the T3.

Documents To Go searched through the SD card faster for associated documents than on the T3. Both using Documents To Go version 7.

There are some quirks to work around. While the navigation API provides the user with a better mechanism to retrieve information from the T5 with one hand, it can also be a nuisance when using the device with a stylus. For instance, when you go to the find function on the device, the focus is on the 'OK' button. On the T3, the focus is on the text so you can immediately start entering text. On the T5, since the focus in on the 'OK' button, you have select the text area first before you start entering the text to perform the search.

AvantGo works fine.

SmartList To Go does not work. I get an error: Sys(0505)(0,841). I notified DataViz of the error.

Pocket Tunes has an error like SmartList To Go. I get an error: Sys(0505)(0,841). I notified NormSoft of the error.

Repligo works fine. Repligo actual works better on the T5. For example, when redrawing full pages, you can see the T3 redraw the page. You cannot on the T5.

eReader works fine.

Wireless keyboard works fine.

I prefer the new web browser with the T5 than I do the browser with the T3. It is faster loading pages when connecting through my PC to the Internet via Bluetooth. It may have something to do with the fact that Bluetooth connection seems to work better on the T5.

The File Transfer tool on the desktop is nice because all you have to do is have the T5 powered on. You do not have to worry about running an application on the T5. You can just drag-n-drop files to the internal flash memory or the SD card. In addition, you can swap SD cards without exiting the application or any extra steps on the desktop or on the handheld. Very convenient.

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Lance

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Fonts4OS5 works well.

The alarm will pierce your ears on high, even with your hand over the back of the unit.

Audio playback is loud through the speaker and headphones. Of course, the output is muffled if your hand is over the speaker. The alarm still works well with or without your hand over the speaker.

Video playback using the Media application is good, especially if you convert the movies using the desktop converter. Playback could be better, but it is hard to tell with the limited tests I have performed. I think the limitation is with the conversion process. It still does not take away from the fact that the process is easy and straight forward for the user. In addition, there is a good balance between quality and file size. Something I really cannot say about the built-in Kinoma product with the T3. I really need to spend more time in this area to get into the details of formats, etc. As mentioned before, MMPlayer works well.

Well, Pocket Tunes now works on my T5. I was able to get an interim release from the guys at NormSoft until they can do a formal release, which should be soon. They were not aware of the fact that the T5's were shipping.

I have yet to hear anything from DataViz about SmartList To Go.

ZLauncher 5.00 Beta 4 works with the T5. The current release version (4.30) does not properly. With 5.00 Beta 4, there is some screen flicker when you change options. Otherwise, it works well.

Beyond Contacts does not work. I actually had to hard reset the T5 and remove the application. Do not install this one!

Now, back to more testing...

Take care,
Lance

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seascape

Lance, you seem not to have had the bad experience that Gekko reported. Your findings indicate that some legacy software needs updating by the developer, and that the memory architecture changes can slow certain tasks a bit, but overall not bad?

Gekko

Lance - how does your T5's Global Find perform relative to a T3?

Lance

That is probably an accurate assessment of my experience. I know I am just posting bits and pieces, but I am trying to get the information to everyone as soon as possible. I hope to summarize everything and give my final two-cent recommendation on the T5, but so far, everything is going pretty good for me. I just hope they release the Wi-Fi drivers for the T5, soon. I am chomping-at-the-bit to see what battery life is like using the Wi-Fi card.

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Lance

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Fortuntely, I am not running into the problem you had, yet. Currently, I have 60 MB of images/video loaded in the internal flash memory, and I have a 1 GB SD card almost full of MP3's, 30 native Word documents, and 11 Repligo documents. In main memory, I have used about 30 MB.

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Lance

I should clarify. The search is not as fast as it is on the T3, but it is nothing like what you or other people have reported on other forums. For my configuration, I think the speed of the search is very good.

Note: I have 665 contact entries, 819 calendar entries, and 280 memo entries in addition to the data I mentioned previously.

By the way, QLaunch works on the T5.

Take care,
Lance

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SplashWallet works just fine. Of course, SplashWallet includes SplashPhoto, SplashMoney, SplashID, and SplashShopper.

As probably assumed by now from the new memory configuration, background music playback does not playback as smoothly as it did before. It all depends on how intensive the task you are running. For example, music can playback without much of a hiccup during a HotSync with the T3. With the T5, it will still play, but it will cut in and out depending on the application being synchronized.

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Lance

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GadgetGuru

With regards to Global Find, how much slower is it?

With previous Palms, you would get a first page of result almost instantaneously, then if you click 'more', a next page in around 2-3 seconds...how about the new T5? If its twice as long, maybe it could be tolerable, but if its much more, then that's another story...

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zenlon

Is it possible to transfer files using Bluetooth and the T5's new flash drive feature?

Lance

As a comparison, I went through a search on both devices looking for the same word. In addition, I hit 'Find More' as soon as it was displayed. Actually sooner, I kept tapping the same spot until it appeared. I started in the same application, and cycled through 14 screens. I repeated this from different applications and took the averages, and here are the results:

palmOne Tungsten T3: 12.3 seconds
palmOne Tungsten T5: 15.1 seconds

Thank you,
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Lance

Yes, you can send files via Bluetooth from the internal flash memory. You could do the same thing with the T3 and an SD card.

If you are asking if you can connect the T5 via Bluetooth acting as a removable drive to a computer, the answer is no. It has to be connected using the USB. Now, whether or not a third-party could come up with a solution, I do not know.

I hope this answers your question.

Take care,
Lance

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Lance

I just want to say that I realize my experience does not seem to coincide with others' experiences, and I hope that does not discount what I have shared with you. I have tried to be as open and honest about my experience in order to help people out there make their own mind up about the T5.

I wanted to give you a little background in what I do for a living that pertains to Palm devices. A certain percentage of my full-time job is actually devoted to supporting handheld devices. I have to evaluate and recommend handheld devices for my company. Currently, we have over 80 users of Palm devices and growing.

In addition, I wanted to share with you the process I use to test any new device. First off, I have a computer dedicated to test out new stuff. I know this may not be practical for some people, but I can not afford any problems on my main machine because of something I am testing. Secondly, I remove all applications that I believe would be installed with the new device. Then, I go in manually and make sure all associated files and data are deleted. Remember this is not my main machine. If it was, I would backup everything before starting this process.

After I feel I have a virtually "clean" machine, I reboot and then start the process as though I was a "newbie" to all this Palm stuff. I use the defaults in the installation, and then I test all the default applications/features that come with the device.

After I feel comfortable with the basics, I install all the other third-party applications that I use. I load applications one at a time to test them out. I realize this may be a little tedious and time-consuming, but I know from experience that all devices are a little different so not everything might work as expected. If an application does not work properly, I make a note of it and send a message to the developer. If necessary, I might have to remove the application.

Then, I decide if the new device merits being a part of my life or merits replacing a device I already own. At that point, I go through the same process on my main machine, but I skip all the testing since that has already been done. In addition, I backup all my data before I even start.

Anyway, I just thought I would share a little more about where I am coming from and maybe why I may be getting different results than other people.

I hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Lance

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