1src Forums - Rumor: Yet More Info on the Tungsten T5

08-31-2004, 09:13 AM	#1
Reggie 1src Founder Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Charleston Posts: 1,958	Rumor: Yet More Info on the Tungsten T5 A reliable insider has read the recent T5 rumors here in 1SRC and made the following comments and provided new details: - The pictures provided are either a Photoshop job or a very early prototype. While the upcoming T5 will have a similar form factor, it does not look anything like it. - There will be a 256MB Flash RAM (which is impervious to hard resets). All apps will be native and 230MB will be usable. - There will be no built-in WiFi but the current PalmOne WiFi SD card would work. - The universal connector will be changed to a USB type connector. The T5 will mount like a removable device. - Applications that are native include Documents To Go which will read MS Office native files directly. If you want to conserve space though, save the data files as .PDB. - PlamOne will market a wireless keyboard as an accessory. Our source further mentions that there is no upcoming Tungsten E2, only the Tungsten T5 and the new Treo (no official name yet) codenamed "Rowdy" not "Ace" are planned [details]

08-31-2004, 09:34 AM	#2
edeab220 My T\|X is my friend... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South NJ Posts: 673	Could it be? Could that Treo "Rowdy" be my dream come true...my <$200 Treo? BTW - It's palmOne, not plamOne . It's in the last item in the list. __________________ Senior Editor and Webmaster of PalmForums. Check out my Palm OS-focused podcast at PalmForums.org! HS Visor 2MB > Visor Deluxe > Palm VIIx > Visor Prism > Clie NR70 > Palm Tungsten\|T3 + Nokia 3650 > Palm T\|X +Nokia 6681

08-31-2004, 09:38 AM	#3
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08-31-2004, 09:40 AM	#4
RobertS Savant Digital Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 132	The lack of built in WiFi is a tremendous mistake if these specs are true. __________________ RobertS TH-55, Tungsten C, iPaq h2210, Tungsten E

08-31-2004, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertS

The lack of built in WiFi is a tremendous mistake if these specs are true.

Exactly what I was thinking. I would be a big mistake if palmOne did not include WiFi. WiFi is growing, and more and more businesses and schools use it, and if I were to get a T|T5, I would not want to spend another $130 for WiFi only.

OT: What does impervious mean?

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08-31-2004, 09:53 AM	#6
RobertS Savant Digital Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 132	Cannot be penetrated, invulnerable __________________ RobertS TH-55, Tungsten C, iPaq h2210, Tungsten E

08-31-2004, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by edeab220

OT: What does impervious mean?

From dictionary.com:

im·per·vi·ous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-pûrv-s)
adj.
Incapable of being penetrated: a material impervious to water.
Incapable of being affected: impervious to fear.

LOL

08-31-2004, 09:57 AM	#8
Adrenochrome Evolving... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New York Posts: 545	At an uniformed guess, I'd say this is PalmOne's attempt at damage control. If the new pictures have been leaked, the best way to discredit them is to throw more confusion into the picture. And the new specs don't seem to make sense. No Wifi? Excuse me? If Palm doesn't get it's act together and offer Wifi in something more substantial than a card that denies you memory and sticks out just waiting to be broken, then they're just going to lose their market to PPC, which offers Wifi on almost every model. What would PalmOne think businesses wireless networks are running on? Bluetooth? Hotsync cradles? And Wifi is becoming very common in homes these days, with internet service providers offering them for cheap. And wasn't one of the cores of OS6 supposed to be its wireless connectivity? Why blow it by not including any? So while I wouldn't put it past P1 to screw up the Wifi addition, I don't think much else there sounds valid.

08-31-2004, 10:01 AM	#9
RobertS Savant Digital Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 132	Also the switch from DocsToGo to QuickOffice is interesting....anyone heard any noises about a falling out between Palm and DataViz? __________________ RobertS TH-55, Tungsten C, iPaq h2210, Tungsten E

08-31-2004, 10:02 AM	#10
Reggie 1src Founder Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Charleston Posts: 1,958	Sorry about that it should be Docs To Go not QuickOffice. Article corrected.

08-31-2004, 10:04 AM	#11
Starken Guest Posts: n/a	Palm will be sorry if this is true If these are the true specs of the T5, it will be the worst mistake palm will ever make. Tungsten Info's specs sound much more realistic and plausible. How will Palm expect to compete with Dell & HP pocket PC's of which almost all will have built in WiFi? Not to mention that the Pocket PC's are going to VGA sceens. Why would anyone buy this version of the T5 when the Axim X50 will probably be around the same price range or less? The only reason I could think of is if one had a sharp detest of the Pocket PC OS. If this rumor is true I will say goodbye Palm, hello Axim X50.

08-31-2004, 10:04 AM	#12
RobertS Savant Digital Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 132	256MB Flash? That just hit me. That much space being impervious to reset means that the soft/warm/hard reset recovery system is pretty much out the window. With that much memory being state consistant odds are any bad apps or conflicts will survive resetting. If these specs are true they indicate a complete change of data management methodology for Palm. I agree, I think that we are seeing some kind of distraction....but why? __________________ RobertS TH-55, Tungsten C, iPaq h2210, Tungsten E

08-31-2004, 10:04 AM	#13
edeab220 My T\|X is my friend... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South NJ Posts: 673	haha...thanks Reggie and RobertS for the definition . So that's 230MB RAM that's um...impervious to hard resets? Nice... EDIT - Oh wait...RobertS is right. So if we get some kind of bad program on our new Cobalt devices (which may happen often), we won't be able to do a hard reset to clear it out?...unless palmOne is going Sony's way and doing some sort of crazy memory setup so that if one does some special reset, they could easily just restore some type of backup made beforehand... __________________ Senior Editor and Webmaster of PalmForums. Check out my Palm OS-focused podcast at PalmForums.org! HS Visor 2MB > Visor Deluxe > Palm VIIx > Visor Prism > Clie NR70 > Palm Tungsten\|T3 + Nokia 3650 > Palm T\|X +Nokia 6681 Last edited by edeab220 : 08-31-2004 at 10:08 AM.

08-31-2004, 10:16 AM

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. So if we get some kind of bad program on our new Cobalt devices (which may happen often), we won't be able to do a hard reset to clear it out?

And when you consider that we will likely be seeing a lot of application problems switching to the new OS with a lot of strange behavior and no way to easily go back to square one....yoikers.

Either someone at Palm is on the bad crack or this is a distraction to get us off the other stuff and on to something meaningless.

If by some chance this IS real, I agree with Starken. HP made some serious mistakes concerning price and Customer support with the new iPaqs, which Palm is perfectly poised to take advantage of...unless they leave WiFi out. That will hamstring the T5 in the one area they need to expand market share the most - business users.

Bad, bad, bad. To be out-thought by DELL? Hawken is back? Well he can leave again.

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08-31-2004, 10:23 AM	#15
RamonDiaz Guest Posts: n/a	I can't believe it... I hope this is not true...! I will cry... I have the feeling that PalmOne really WANTS to go down, better sooner than later... I have used almost every single model since the Palm Pilot Personal and I liked every new model... But this one is going to loose out. WHAT FOR do I get 230 MB RAM if I don't get WiFi? I would prefer 64 MB instead if I got WiFi...! I have a 512 MB SD-Card. I don't need this much RAM at the cost of WiFi... What kind of people completely out of touch with reality are making the specs at PalmOne? Please, people!! Get out on the street and have a look at what there is... Nobody is going to buy your stuff if you don't offer something more than the stuff from yesterday!!! I just hope that all this is not true... If I didn't use SuperMemo for Palm with 5000 cards and Statistics of 3 years that cannot be exported to a Pocket PC...