dimensiondvdrob

I am looking to get the opinion of anyone that has switched from a CLIE to a T3. Why did you originally switch? Are the T3's BETTER than a CLIE? What benefits are there in a T3 vs. a CLIE?

Right now I have a CLIE UX50 and I like it, but since playing with the T3 for a little bit at the store, I am VERY tempted to maybe switch from my UX to a T|T3. I have really not owned a PALM-branded unit since Sony introduced the N710C. So please offer me any and all opinions, drawbacks, benefits, etc. for me to want to get a T3 and leave my UX50 in a drawer. Look, I am not looking to start a Palm vs. Sony war, I just want information to help make a decision.

Thanks in advance.

Rob

y_g

I am an ex-Clie NX70 user. I bought the Sony in the 1st place for it's large screen and amazing form factor. I switched to palm because what mattered most to me was the size of the unit but I couldn't give up the amazing screen. Once that issue was out of the way, I was an easy call. I rarely used the camera, I honestly hated the propritery (and stupid) expensive memory stick and although I loved the clam-shell design I found myself always going into tablet mode (can you imagine I NEVER once used the built in keyboard...)
What you will be giving up though is sony's features like personalizable Virtual graffity area, the scroller (I can't imagine why Palm left this one out) and in your case - WiFi support.
Bluetooth is, however, standard and Wifi can be added via SD.
If you ask me, I see no apparent reason to go from the UX50 to the T3. Both are great and if I were given the choice (if $$$ was not an issue) I would still probably pick the T3 but if I had a UX I doubt if I would trade it for the T3. I say wait for OS6 devices.
good luck

n0m0n

I would not call myself a Clie Convert since I was a Palm user since the days of the Palm Pro...
Anyway I switched to SOny Clie NR70v, then to a NX70v, and now a NX80v...
I still have and use the NX80v but also purchased a T3 for a test drive.
I like the in fact I like it alot more since Palm came out with the update.
I lean towards Palm as a company because in the last 1 or 2 I have found Sony to be abusive to there customer base.
I would go as far as to say that I dont think Sony would have come out with the T3_update fix...
They probably would have had the fix in the next version or model...
They also dont play friendly with programers form what I have ben told by Programers...
So I think when I finish playing with my toy NX80v I will use my T3 the tool...
Just my opinion.

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beatonl

I'm an ex Clie T-615 user. (Before that I had a PalmVx) I've just moved to the T3. For me the move was no-brainer. I'd been muttering since Sony released the NRand NXs that what I really wanted was a 320x480 tablet style with Virtual Graffiti and no clamshell key-board.

I was really tempted by the UX 50 I admit - but after doing my research the T3 was still a better option. 1 the T3 is cheaper. 2 the T3 does everything I need/want. 3 If I'm going to type sdtuff into a handheld I prefer a larger size keyboard. 4 My primary use of a handheld is reading - so the bigger the screen the better.

Hands down the T3 offered way more bang for my buck. I've had it two weeks now and I still think it's the best handheld I've ever seen

ollieollie82

switched from NR70v... to T3

Liking the size benefits the most. I mean, the NR70v was a brick compared to the T3 i have now. I'll admit that the clies have "cool" factor with the clamshell design, but the slider is pretty sweet too sometimes.

ill say the only thing i miss is the digital camera, as crappy as it was, i loved taking candid shots of my friends randomly.

T3 plays Mp3s and does video just as great as the CLIEs IMO...

i really do miss the built in keyboard sometimes. It is just plain faster than grafitti, and easier than carrying a keybaord around. But i guess you get the size benefits.

Bluetooth is nice, WIFi would be better, but i can't have my cake and eat it too.

all in all i'd say i'm a happy camper minus a built in keyboard, camera and wifi. The Clies are just way too big, and you have to go through a big long process just to put it into table mode (in comparison to palms anyway).

Mr. Thompson

Another convert, my thoughts in this thread.

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win.ph

swithced from Clie-Sj33 to T3

Starman

Palm Pilot Personal
Palm III
Palm IIIx
Sony N610C
Sony TG50
T3

It's good to be home again.

Mark

Vidge

I'm a PalmOS user since 1996, having purchased the original Pilot 5000 when they were released. I stayed with Pilot/Palm Pilot/Palm thru May 2002, buying a new one at least once a year during that time. I bought an NR70V in May 2002 and it was an amazing unit - the screen was awesome, the speed was the best at the time (who would have thought we'd go from 66 mHz to 400 MHz in a year?!) and I enjoyed the clamshell design - no need for a case. When the TC was released, I resisted it - for a while , primarily because I thought Sony would come out with something similar - 64 meg RAM, 400MHz. But they didn't and I got tired of waiting. I bought the TC but try as I might, I couldn't get used to the thumboard, so I returned it after two weeks. Back to my NR70V - still waiting for Sony to come up with something with at least more memory. Sony's annoucements of the NX73 and NX80 turned me back towards Palm. I ended up buying the T2 - and received it the day the T3 was confirmed! I had my T2 for 2 months. As soon as I heard that some stores were selling the T3 a few days early, I went and got one. And I'm thrilled with it.

I never used the keyboard on my NR70V - it was a waste of space for me. And I generally kept it in tablet mode. The smallish screen of the UX turned me off - my eyes are too old for that.

As for why Palm over Sony - well, I think the biggest issue for me is that I have a better chance of an OS6 upgrade with the T3 than I would with a Sony machine. Sony has a history of not offering OS upgrades and while Palm hasn't done one in a while, I think they will do one before Sony does. Other reasons I prefer Palm to Sony:

1. As others have mentioned, size is important as well. It's good to have a small unit again, after carrying my NR around. I actually had to get a bigger purse to handle the size of it (I moved to the NR from an m505).

2. The cost of SD cards is less than comparable sized memory sticks. That was another factor for me.

3. The univeral connector . All my old m505 accessories worked with my T3. No need to buy new stuff. (Fortunately, I still had them!)

4. Cost. The cost of the T3 today is almost the same amount that I paid for my Pilot 5000 back in 1996. Sony's units seem to be getting more & more expensive. I really don't mind spending $400 a year for a new unit, but $600 - $700 seems a bit much.

5. Proprietary APIs. Sony has been very closemouthed about its APIs, which make it difficult for developers to write software to take advantage of them. (Of course, the T3 was released without API information to the developers, too. Take a look at what CESD of Datebk5 has had to go thru to reverse engineer the information about the databases. Hopefully, this is just an oversight & won't happen again.)

All that being the case, I think if I had a UX, I might hold out until spring for the OS6 devices. (But I said that when I bought my T2 in August and I still bought the T3 on 9/26 so take it for what it's worth)

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FrankG

> Palm IIIx
Ditto! The IIIx was a great PDA value in its time.
PalmIIIc for 10 months.

> Sony N610C
Ditto! for 11 months!

>Sony TG50
Sony NR70V, NX60 for a day, NR70V again, NX70 for 12 months per a promise I made to my wife.

>T3
Ditto!

>It's good to be home again.


Frank

TedTschopp

Why did you originally switch?
I originally switched to the Clie becuase Palm and Handspring were no longer pushing the boundries and possibilities of the handheld. I switched back to the Palm becuase with the T|3 Palm recaptued the lead with a device with a lot of memory (I could never have my full base of software installed on my Clie NR70) And becuase it had bluetooth.

Are the T3's BETTER than a CLIE?
I think they are about the same, I chose the t|3 because it had the ability to rotate the screen. While the UX did not.

What benefits are there in a T3 vs. a CLIE?
T|3 in the end will be a bit more compatible. Also it looks like Palm has made a device with Flash memory which can be upgraded. I think another feature that makes the palm more appealing to me is the availability of the newer software such as the newer calendar and contacts. Also 3rd party addons and software will tend to support the Palm quicker than the other devices.

So what exactly is my history.
Compaq Windows CE 1.0 device (I've already forgot it's name)
Palm IIIx
TRG Pro
Handspring Visor
Clie (first one with virtual graffitti)
Clie (The first one with a flip screen and keyboard) NR60
Clie NX70v Gun Metal Black
and now
Tungsten T|3

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n2ifp

Right now, there is NOTHING else available(Palm or PPC) that would make me want to give up my T3 for!

I have a N760C, NR70, NX70, NX80, still, and they're all collecting dust. I also have several Handspring and WinCE products buried in one of desk drawers too!

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vcleniuk

I switched from PalmIIIc to Sony N760, then Sony NX70V. I had planned to get the UX50, for the larger keyboard and wireless options. But after seeing it in person, realized I couldn't work with such a small screen.

Luckily, the T3 came out near the same time. The VG area, landscape mode (and larger screen) sold me. After purchasing an SD camera, I will be able to do everything on my T3 that I did on my NX70V and then some.

ryber

I went from a Handspring Visor Deluxe, to a Handspring Visor Platinum (same thing, they just changed the case from opaque to transparent), to a Palm M515, to a Clie NR70, to a Tungsten TE (for 5 days, at which time the battery decided it no longer wanted to live), to a Tungsten T3. The T3 is by far the best PDA I have ever used, and is a phenomenal upgrade from the NR70. The faster processor and the 64 Megs of RAM really take the cake for PDA's.

Not having used a UX50 other than playing with one in CompUSA, I couldn't really tell you about the differences there, but I do know that the screen on a UX50 is miniscule compared to the TT3.