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Old 02-27-2004, 11:19 PM   #1
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Exclamation Internet Security in WIFI Using TH55 - Important

Dear Friends,

I like to find out is there a firewall in WIFI enabled handheld like
the TH55. Just like the internet capable desktop PCs can be hacked; how about handheld devices? How can we prevent it from being hacked.

Thank you in advance for your kind advise.

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Old 02-27-2004, 11:44 PM   #2
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There is no firewall that I know of in Palm devices. If you are connecting with a WEP enabled hotspot there is not that much to worry about. But then again, what are you afraid that's going to get 'hacked' on your TH55?
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Old 02-27-2004, 11:56 PM   #3
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Hi winexprt,

Thank you for your kind advise. One thing i am worried is that I may use the TH55 to access e banking and thats what I am worried about internet security.

Thanks man!!!

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Old 02-28-2004, 12:05 AM   #4
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Hi winexprt,

Thank you for your kind advise. One thing i am worried is that I may use the TH55 to access e banking and thats what I am worried about internet security.

Thanks man!!!

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First, Man can DEFINITELY almost live with Beer alone! Beer & my girlfriend are all I need!

Ok..now back to brass tacks. NetFront 3.1 (which your TH55 comes with) can handle desktop-level browsing security. It is the best thing to come along for handheld browsing in a while. A member here does his on-line banking on it because it is so capable.

If you go here, you can read at length about the new NetFront's capabilities.

http://www.access.co.jp/english/index.html
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Old 02-28-2004, 12:14 AM   #5
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Hi winexprt friend,

Thanks so much for your kind assurance. I will be heading off to the link you gave to read and understand more of it.

Appreciate your advise. Thanks again and have a nice day.

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Wow! I'm a friend! Cool!

How about: 'Beer & a few ladies on the left...Beer & a few ladies on the right'? LOL
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Hey winexprt friend,

I like your style!!! 100% AGREED Couple or beers and ladies on the left & right. SANDWICHED!!! He hee.

Take care friend!!
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Old 02-28-2004, 10:01 AM   #8
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Axesmail: as Winexpert mentioned Netfront can handle the high security and all that, but personally I don't see myself doing that sensitive stuff on my clie. For a couple of reasons...

1) I still feel more comfortable doing it from my pc where i can print stuff as soon as i do my transactions. (It has helped me a few times when i've had to complain to the bank about errors.)

2) The screen on my PC is big enough to show the whole screen comfortably without having to scroll around like crazy.

3) I still feel that my pc is safer, because of all the security software i have on it, and besides it's on a wired network which i administer. I'm still a bit edgy someone might pick up info from the air (yes, i'm told the info is scrambled and it's really hard, but i still feel wired is safer). You never know who might be listening on the waves around you.

I only use wifi for leisure activities, surf the web, check email, write this reply, etc.

As winexpert said, it's safe. I'm just a bit paranoid about security. And I don't like to take unnecessary risks.

E-banking in Peru is really bad... I've heard complaints about my in-law's bank where someone withdrew money from her account, transferred it to another account in the same bank and withdrew the money from an ATM and the bank wasn't able to track who was responsible.
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Hi Kwai Feh,

!st of all, thank you for sharing your concerns; that made me a bit cautious. 2ndly, lets ignore ppl like UZ50 who is not educated and qualified enuff to be in Clie Source. No wonder he is not a registered user.

Back to our topic, I gues I do not understand how the system works for WIFI and normal internet access. But I think you could be right that other ppl can intervene while we on the air with WIFI.

Winexprt friend, can you help to verify this?

Thank you ALL for your kind advise and courtesy except for UZ50.


Clie Source do not tolerate with rude ppl!!!
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Hello, I am about to buy the TH55 device, as I understand so far a firewall solution is not available, either for WIFI or BLUETOOTH,
How can I assure that using those two technologies there is no posibility that my schedules or contacts leak on the network?
Is it posible for someone to take remote control of my PDA? i.e. I will use it for email, meaning tha probably through a pop3/smtp provider, and possibly store mail in the memory stick, do I have risk of these mails leak to the net?

Sorry for bugging you that much guys!!!

Thanks,

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Here's your answer:

Unless your TH55 is running some sort of server (which it shouldn't be - I don't have one yet), then it's not going to be hacked. In order for a computer (or the TH55) to be hacked, there has to be something running on the machine listening to a port that will respond to an outside source *unless* you've downloaded some software that initiates the connection.

Further, people generally concentrate on the most common software/OS to hack because the pickins' are easy (there's so many of them). I wouldn't think that the TH55 has enough presence to warrant someone going thru all that trouble to do it especially considering that the nature of the TH55 is that it's only on when being used.

If you really wanted to be sure, try accessing http:\\grc.com\ and use their Shields Up! test. I'd bet that you wouldn't get any hits at all on the TH55.

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Old 03-19-2004, 07:41 AM   #12
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One thing i am worried is that I may use the TH55 to access e banking and thats what I am worried about internet security.

Netfront supports Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) encryption, the same as your IE or Netscape browser on your desktop. While using WiFi may make it a little easier for someone to intercept pieces of your transaction, it would be no less difficult for them to decrypt that information. I do not believe SSL has EVER been compromised. It is quite likely that the sun will burn out before someone decrypts your SSL-encoded data. That's not to say it's impossible, it would just take far longer than anyone could possibly deem feasible. In other words, if the web page you're viewing is protected by SSL, you have nothing at all to worry about.

You may recall a number of high-profile cases in which e-commerce sites have had their customers' data compromised. In each of these cases, the problem occurred because the company was not storing their data securely or it was stolen by someone on the inside. The weak link in e-commerce transactions, then, is the COMPANY'S firewall, not your firewall, your web browser, or the link between your computer (or Clie) and the company's computers.
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Thanks jumpyg for your kind and thorough explanation. I am sure you all are right where we do not really access the net with wifi that often to be listened. Also SSL to keep us safe.

Have a nice day, All
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my bank won't even allow a login unless it is one of two accepted browsers.... so I can't do my banking from the TH.
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