Moose Man

Well this will probably generate a lot of anger but I'm going to return my TH55 after only 2 days of use and here is why (remember that I've got a T3) and here are my reasons.

1. Clie Organizer Speed is just terrible compared to the normal Palm apps.
1A Even the desktop component is slow to launch and other than providing a view of the data on the handheld - I prefer the Palm Desktop.
2. Jog dial location and size - not comfortable nor convenient to use when used to a d-pad on the front.
3. Hard coded 4th button. This can't be remapped - maybe by some software program but not with the supplied software.
4. No alarms in the either of the to do apps.
5. Voice Recorder button - great for a left hander but a right hander trying to record while doing anything besides chewy bubble gum.....
6. No cradle - yeah I can buy one but it's a pain for me if your used to it and SonyStyle can't say when it will be in the system.
7. Documentation - I know Sony has never been noted for their paper support and no change here.
8. Buttons themselves - difficult to access with the cover down and did I mention the 4th button is hard coded.
9. IR port - my Palm wireless keyboard won't connect because of it's location unless I lay it down.

Ok now that I've got everyone mad there are some good things that I will miss:
1. Wifi - heck I was clear outside checking email via the home network and this thing didn't miss a beat.
2. MS Export - every Palm should have this feature.
3. Audio Player - out of the box hands down better player than T3's real one and I love the ATRAC format but I use it more as a PDA then a player.
4. Power consumption - I've been wifi'ing and playing for about an hour and the battery still reads at 95% so compared to the T3....much better.
5. Sony Fonts - much more flexible than T3 on various core apps.
6. Camera - very friendly user interface and not bad pictures. I was looking forward to having the ability to snap pics as needed for my work but I think I'll go get a SD slot camera for the T3.
7. Flip Cover - it may be difficult to take off but it looks cool IMHO.


In closing: The Clie Organizer software - this will need to be tweaked to keep the Datebook5 and Agendus user's happy. I thought that the ability to color the days and to handwrite notes on the calendar would be worth it - it's not. I believe the TH55 as a good functional PDA that if the Clie Organizer was faster or the clie had the 400mhz processor of the T3 to speed it up - I wouldn't be sending it back.

Unfortunately, the speed of the T3 - I've grown accustomed to and can work around it's power issues. I'll miss the wifi - but I've been wired for so long that I may have to wait for the ultimate cobalt unit.

It was my intention to "keep" the TH55 but since I've got 16 hours of hands on invested in it - I don't see me overcoming the speed issues. I hope no one takes this post in any manner then which it's intended - that's too express my views and not necessarily as a negative view point. The TH55 has very good qualities and if I hadn't previously owned the T3.....thats another matter.

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lostether

Sounds to me like you have given this an awful lot of thought, and it seems the Clie Organizer was your major reason to purchase the TH55. Personally I couldn't live without a WiFi enabled device but in a limited way one could get around some of the limitations with BT. I have to say again as I have elsewhere that Sony must be going to introduce the next generation of the HHE soon. If OS6 (Cobalt) is going to be as processor intensive as many believe they will either have to introduce a faster HHE or go with the X-Scale for their first generation of OS6 devices.

If the Clie Organizer and desktop component had lived up to your expectations would you have kept the Th55?

jhruth

- Buttons are bad - NO good for games for sure
- My old craddle works fine
- Everything else is REALLY cool !!

bcringo

which cradle are you using?

bcringo

I wonder if you could use Datebk5 on a TH

Moose Man

Your correct that the principle reason was the Clie Organizer for the initial purchase. In reviewing the Japanese video about the TH55 it was obviously fast forwarded - I knew this but still I thought that it would be quicker. The desktop component - wasn't really an issue because I knew I was going to sync to Outlook but the backup of the freenotes and other Clie Organizer apps is a given.

The T3 also has the ability to remap the VG buttons and the Home button acts as a quick launcher storing the last 5 apps.

The real issue is the speed of the Clie Organizer - I was waiting seconds - not milliseconds for it to load after entering a new meeting. No alarms on the ToDo's was another issue - yeah I stated I could drag a todo to the datebook and schedule an alarm but that's a pain compared to what I'm used to.

I think that Sony is going in the right direction with the Clie Organzer being able to "hold" customers that want a little more - this initial "newby" version is just too much to deal with. Throw it onto the T3 with it's 400mhz processor and I'd live with it.

I'm not slamming the TH55 - it's just not what I expected.

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on a side note - if you didn't have to pay a restocking fee (which i assume you don't), would you still return it? or for that matter, would you have bought it in the first place, without perhaps playing with a floor model more?

Moose Man

There is a trial version of Agendus on the disc - there should be no reason Datebook5 wouldn't work but you'd probably have to download the release K version which is the beta for the UX and T3, my guess.

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rlc7254

Sorry to see that you're returning it.  I haven't noticed the speed issues that you mention with the Clie Organizer. But then mine may not have as much data on it a s yours does. Did you ever get a chance to try the web surfing compenent?

 

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LupeValenz

Sorry to see you giving up on that, but good luck with your T3 now . The TH55 is my dreams come true with the clie organizer and same here, I haven't seen any real slowdown with it and it was pretty nice to see all the info I had in my UX50 get transfrerred over and now works with the TH55. I remember saying how Palm OS is like an electronic organizer and PPC was made for multimedia, but now with the Sony clie organizer, it REALLY is my daytime runner in electronic format, minus the fancy inspirational notes. I just love being able to set up a metting and have it colorized, and if there is anything that might be important, I can just jot down on it or attach a message. This lil baby IS replace Agendus for me. I wanted Palm OS to be an electronic organizer for me, to keep my life scheduled, now it is, it even has the tabs like the paperkind organizer with the calendar, address book, note *memo pad*, todo list, etc . Now can't wait to use it at work today and see how it goes.

depret

It could also be a matter of perspective. Moose is coming from a T3 where as LupeValenz is coming from a UX50 (same prccessor right?).

If I had a T3, I do not know if I would have even pre-order and opened the box. Who am I kidding?

Thanks for the photos and comments. This pre-order is happy to have the extra information.

peakpro

I don't think anyone is angry,......we will all evaluate the TH55 based on personal needs and no doubt many will b e returned...

you info on processor speed has given many of us something to think about as we wait for shipment...thanks

zipmail

Why do posters here have to preface their opinions with caveats for the fear of getting flamed or getting some people angry? I find that strange.

It was a good personal opinion and I think you should never have to apologize for it. What a shame regarding the Clie Organizer - I am going to the UK and was hoping to pick one up with Bluetooth but if the Organizer software is as slow as you have suggested, then it would be an issue for me. I guess a thorough hands-on to see if the speed is a factor would be on the cards before I buy.

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ClieKun

not everyone is happy withth TH55 do they have to be? So issues he posted about were guessed by many and he expericed them. Well he is one of a few. but by no means is half or all users.Its too new to have a feel for the users comments. sit back and watch the reviews.

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