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01-23-2004, 11:01 PM	#1
mike_4_all Guest Posts: n/a	Bad news for UX50 users and Legacy . Well I have bad news for UX50 owners who want to play Legacy. You won't on the UX50. After a number of e,ails with redshift tech support we came to a final answer for now . . . Here is a cut and paste. ~/ start cut /~ Hello ! It seems the only available method for us is to make a native Arm version. That locking bug could be resolved, but the game would be too slow on ux. Making a native Arm version can be done later, it's a huge work, and we still have problems which must be fixed before starting a native Arm version. Please ask a refund, I can't tell you exact date for the ux version. Regards, ~/ END cut /~ Sorry for the bad news. . . Mike

01-24-2004, 11:43 AM	#2
Massman82 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 281	Yeah, there is no way to regulate the speed of the UX by the developer and Legacy is a bit slow on my 200mhz NX (easily manageable). I can't imagine how slow it might be on 13 mhz or even 123mhz. Just to clear something up: Legacy already uses ARMlets (lot's of them) but there are (undocumented) ways to write a program completely in ARM or 99% ARM. __________________ Roman -Massman82@PDArcade.com Sony Clie NX60 - Best device ever! Palm V/Vx (Previosly) Do you have gaming news? Send it to me, and it may be published on www.PDArcade.com :)

01-24-2004, 01:25 PM	#3
Tixx Hmmm...Zenta Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: There I be! Posts: 5,546	That does suck, but you'd think Sony would try to be more consistant. __________________ Where I at? Public Citizen... Alternet News... Amnesty International... Air America Radio...Lou Dobbs...Center for American Progress...Tricycle...

01-24-2004, 03:33 PM	#4
bmat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: A Californian stuck in DC Posts: 164	If the TH really has the sony handheld engine (and that means the battery conserving, sometimes molasses moving UX type engine), it seems likely that other higher end sony's are going use that format as well. If this problem isn't taken care of, then sony applications could become limited.

01-24-2004, 08:18 PM	#5
dstabb Senior VP Lich Silver Contributor Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 118	Does LightSpeed work on the UX? If so, it could override the settings and force a higher clock speed. __________________ When I started computing, it was so long ago, we didn't have 0s, all we had were 1s.

01-25-2004, 06:53 AM	#6
Cwiiis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 108	Perhaps when the OS4 version is finished (if ever), it'll run better on the UX-50?

01-25-2004, 08:07 PM	#7
strider_mt2k Samsung Omnia i910 Silver Contributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atco, NJ USA Posts: 1,983	I've been waiting to test the OS4 version. Hope something happens soon, even if it's a no go. __________________ Mike Thompson

01-25-2004, 09:58 PM	#8
Cwiiis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 108	Yeah, I e-mailed them about it, they said that they're having problems improving the speed without decreasing stability and that in the future I should refer to their website Ah well, maybe it'll be there tomorrow

01-26-2004, 08:48 AM	#9
omniphil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 227	Very sad news

01-26-2004, 12:04 PM	#10
gyffes Father of The Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,849	So, reason # 217 that I'm glad I kept my NX60 and didn' leap for the x50... __________________ “When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” -- Sinclair Lewis, 1935

01-27-2004, 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Massman82
Yeah, there is no way to regulate the speed of the UX by the developer and Legacy is a bit slow on my 200mhz NX (easily manageable). I can't imagine how slow it might be on 13 mhz or even 123mhz.

Just to clear something up: Legacy already uses ARMlets (lot's of them) but there are (undocumented) ways to write a program completely in ARM or 99% ARM.

Its easy to write full apps as pnolets (ARM) code. No biggy.. same as writing an armlet itself... its just you shift from being 68k oriented to ARMlet oriented, calling back to 68k side (instead of 68k side calling arm code). The problem is that you're then supporting two separate apps.. a 698k oriented one for OS4 PDAs, and a pno oriented one for OS5 PDAs. Not good. So they rightly choose to be 68k oriented, and have pnoles for the performance bottlenecks. But making it all pnolet would be a huge job for them.

In short, Sony shoudl fix their problems, but they usually do not.

jeff