soccrnj80

I found a link for a tt3 for 320.00 from office max w/ coupons and codes. I currently have a ux-50, I upgraded from a tungsten c. I love the ux-50, I just miss the speed of the tc. I ordered the tt3, I received it today. I have to decide which one to keep. Anyone else have this same situation? I am going to really compare both pda's, and see which unit is better for me.

GADRAW

soccrnj80,

I've never tried a tt3, but loving my ux50...i love it so much, i bought a 2nd one for my wife...

Here's a comparison of the UX50 and TT3 from cnet
http://reviews.cnet.com/4504-3127_7...557627&x=44&y=6

the editor gave ux50 a score of 8.6 which is the highest score they've ever given to a pda (including pocket pc)

the tt3 received a score of 8.0

Jeepers

I went through a thorough comparison myself in the same way and here's why I ended up keeping the UX. Some of this is a repeat from an earlier thread, but here goes:


. In terms of size and weight the UX is only slightly bigger and heavier, but the UX combines a camera, keyboard and wifi into that small package.

. The screen is smaller on UX, BUT with same resolution so it is sharper and actual readibility from the same distance is excellent. The stupid built-in sony fonts actually make the UX screen look smaller cause they are so light and scrawny. What I would recommend is putting fonts4UX on the UX and pick out the tungsten font which is more comparable to the T3. Then hold them both at the same distance and push them back further until it gets difficult to read. You'll won't notice much difference between the two in spite of the larger screen on the T3. Both have good brightness by the way, but the T3 I tried had an ugly yellow tint vs. the bright white on the UX.

. Both audio and video on the UX are superior to the T3 with smooth playback without the fuzzies and jerkiness you might be used to on PDAs. Watching video with earphones on the UX is movie theater quality. MP3s on the UX play beautifully with nice bass using the controls on the built in player. The automatic volume leveling on the UX and true bass boost, it sounds fantastic. I actually plugged my UX into my PC speakers and it sounded fabulous! The T3 sounded tinny by comparison. I tried very hard to make the T3 audio and video better, even using software other than the Kinoma player and the Real player on the T3 and it just never measured up to the UX. I assume this has to do with the fact that the built in software on the UX takes advantage of Sony's multimedia enhanced processor.

. So other than graphics I was wondering where the 400Mhz processor might actually be useful, since using it on the day to day PIM apps doesn't show any difference. So the two things which popped into my head which are processor hogs were spreadsheets and an application called Life-Balance uses a custom algorithm to manage all your to-do's. To test the spreadsheet capability, I created a sheet with 500 lines and about 6 columns if I remember correctly. Each cell was a calculation based off another cell in the sheet, so not necessarily what you would be using day-to-day, but I wanted something big. When I changed the starting value, the recalc on the UX took about 70 seconds and the T3 did it in about 34 seconds, so roughly twice as fast for that. Now most people would assume that with a 400Mhz processor vs. the UX 128Mhz it would be more than three times as fast, but there are so many other factors involved such as memory speed, bus interfaces, etc. that you can't just go by MHz. With Life Balance, I loaded that up with over 1,500 records and pressed the update button which runs through all the records and calculates the relative importance of each entry and here the UX actually completed well ahead of the T3. I have no explanation why, but it did. LB also provides a graph of where you are spending your time which on my old palm took a little while to complete and by comparison, both the UX and T3 did this in a few seconds with the T3 about 1 second ahead of the UX.

I also ran the Warfare Incorporated game on both when the opening screens pop up there are menu's which merge together from both sides. On the UX they merged smoothly and on the T3 they were a bit jerky. Not sure why, but somehow their software must also work well with the Sony engine.

So the net of this is that the UX has pleny of horsepower for applications and even better performance on the audio and video side.

. I also like the voice recorder better with both adjustments for high and low noise environments with clear playback as well as a short and long play option.

. The UX has a feature to back up the 16MB of standard RAM right on the unit....very handy for emergencies plus another 29mb of non-volatile ram where you can store files(including) mp3s and run programs. To play ANY mp3s on the t3 you need an sd card.

. The UX also has an excellent file mgt utilities with built in zip support which lets you view and manipulate your files in a tree structure. T3 comes with nothing like that.

. Another UX utility lets you use the memory stick as another drive when connected to your pc.

. The T3 does come with Docs to go, but does not include the spreadsheet charting function, mail, or picture program. So if you want any of these you have buy an upgrade from dataviz which I believe was $29 last time I checked.

. Did not like the construction of the t3 compared to the ux. The magnesium alloy on the UX not only looks better but should stand up well over time.

. With only one sd slot I didn't want to constantly swapping sd cards between wifi, music, etc. (besides the fact that I believe san disk hasn't come out with os5 drivers for their wifi card yet. I've also gotten excellent range out of the built in wi-fi, just a little bit shy of my laptop wi-fi card range.

. Higher memory capacities available for memory stick vs. sd plus compatibility with other Sony A/V products.

. Having the clamshell design is incredibly convenient. Wherever I am I just open up my little baby and wha-la....instant mini laptop displayed right where I want it. I was never a fan of keyboards or clamshell design until I started using this unit. Now I don't know how I lived without it. Much better than using grafitti fyi. I love just leaving it open on my desk and typing at a brisk pace when I need to input something. I also like the Photo stand software which I use when I'm using my PC or doing some other desk work which will display any pictures you want as a background with a clock and calendar in the foreground. You can also bring up an audio controller by tapping on the screen to play music without leaving photo stand app.

. Now comparing the T3, unless you have it proped up in your charger or a portable keyboard (something else to lug around) it just lies on the desk and you have to keep picking up grabbing a stylus, and putting it down. With the UX I can use it without picking it up, or I can easily pick it up to hold it closer without prying it out of some keyboard holder. Then there's the slider....uggh... When I want to use the landscape feature of the T3, step one: pick it up, step two: open slider, step three: change to landscape orientation, then reverse the process. The UX steps....one: look down at the screen. I know I'm getting picky here, but when you use the PDA a lot these things get more important.

. Full one year warranty on the UX after registering.

Hopefully this should give you some food for thought.

P.S. . Other apps which also help out by the way are KeyQuick for enhancing keyboard functions and CodeDiver for full screen access on apps.

Cheers,
Greg

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Ricoh Tek

Well Brother or Sister as the case may be, I am in the same boat right now. I laid hands on a T3 today that had Docs2Go on it. It was SO NICE to be able to use lanscape mode without having to open, close and reopen the document to get it INTO lanscape mode ala Codiver. The screen is much bigger on the T3 and I must admit, Palm did a nice job on this unit.
I was bluetooth sending games and files with my UX to the T3 with no problems at 50 feet (give or take a foot).
It dosen't have 802.11 but I can't use that at my office anyhow because of our network structure and the Sony patch doesn't work for me.
The camera is cheesy but is MUCH better than the Zire71.
I have a cheap 3 megapixel camera with flash and zoom so I really won't miss the camera that much.
Sorry I cannot offer any words of wisdom as I too am stumped on what to do.

soccrnj80

Thanks, I know the screen on the tt3 is awesome. I do miss not having a keyboard, but I just set my tt3 back to graffiti 1, so I am much quicker. I am trying out alot of apps.

Ricoh Tek

where did you find these......'coupons'?

Rafterman11

I have the same problem, but noticed something weird. If I open a native Office doc, I have to do the open-close-open trick. But if I open a Docs to Go converted format file, it opens immediately in landscape with CodeDiver. Strange.

Unregistered

I think you really have to go by what is more functional for your daily usage. For me, I use my UX for so many things. I ove having it all integrated and each component works very well. I am very mobile so it is great to just set up shop wherever I am. I've also found I can enter text much faster with the UX keyboard than grafitti 1 or 2 or those teeny thumboards. I would never attempt writing an entire document with grafitti, but I 've been able to do just that with the big UX keyboard!

I also have a 3 megapixel camera, but I have my UX with me everywhere, so it's great to able get spur of the moment shots with UX.

In addition I would think that dataviz will be coming out with native support for the UX50 since if they won't, their competitors will. So I wouldn't base my decision on that.

But everyone's needs are different......

samnjoe

I have both the UX-50 and the T3.  I've HAD both for quite awhile.  In fact, I'm a bit of a techie geek.  (I have nine handhelds:  Tungsten T/T2/T3, Sony Clie UX-50, Clie PEG-T615C, Handspring Treo 90, Handspring Prism, and the old standby Palm VII, and an in-the-box Zire bw/basic).

Anyway -- I've had the UX-50 for two weeks longer than the T3, and have had AMPLE opportunity to explore and dig deep into the pros and cons.

My choice?  You know ... if I knew the answer ... I'd quit carrying both of them around.

The front-runner?  Well, it's neck and neck, day to day, week to week.  One pulls ahead, the other catches up.  The obviously both have their high points and their drawbacks.  It's quite a personal choice.

One thing is FOR CERTAIN.  This thread -- http://www.cliesource.com/forums/sh...;threadid=29231 -- has made it so that the UX-50 has CAUGHT UP in the 'usable memory' category.  And having made that tremendous leap ... it's got quite a bit of LEAD over the T3 now.

Yeah, sure, the T3 can rotate the screen, has a bigger display, awesome speed, incredible picture, blah blah.  But the UX-50 is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sweet.

 

Rafterman11

Now, PDAGeek is reporting that the T3 may have display problems too. Different units have different levels of brightness and some have haziness around the edges.

samnjoe

Oh yeah.  Forgot to mention.  The T3 fried TWO of my SD cards (256mb and 64mb) on the first day. SanDisk.

Bought a Lexar 256mb -- all's fine with that one so far.

Now THERE's a SERIOUS downside.

 

Jeepers

Yikes!

After reading some of the fallout on screen issues and SD cards, even if I wanted a T3, I think I'd hold off on getting one until they work out the bugs.

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phoneboy101

I'm very anxious to get one or the other, but I've been deadlocked for weeks. I might just have to wait until Sony releases a patch for portrait mode (might never happen), for Dataviz to release a Docs to Go update (who knows how long that will take), or for Sony to make their first price drop. I'd prefer all three to happen, but any one of them might push me over the edge.

I'd really like to see a UX-55 (or whatever is next) with more than 16MB of regular operating RAM, and a larger screen with four application buttons at the side (bottom when in portrait mode) of the screen.

That said, the UX-50 is definately superior. If the prices of the T3 and UX-50 were closer together it would be an easy decision.

samnjoe

[QUOTEI'd really like to see a UX-55 (or whatever is next) with more than 16MB of regular operating RAM, and a larger screen with four application buttons at the side (bottom when in portrait mode) of the screen.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget that the the UX-50 has another 32mb of  "internal memory" that functions just about like "regular" RAM.  Programs can be moved and launched from there as easily as anything, due to the 'built-in short-cut function."

THAT was the leap that made my UX-50 so much sweeter!

There's a whole, incredibly informative thread with the info:  http://www.cliesource.com/forums/sh...;threadid=29231.