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09-09-2003, 12:49 AM	#16
n2ifp Retired Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester, NJ Posts: 12,444	No problem Bro! __________________ Cheers! Larry Winward T\|T3 + SE T610 + SE HBH-65 = BT Heaven!

09-09-2003, 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Tixx

Works for me too. Having double icons is a bummer. Though I have an NX70.

Also works fine for me. I just put the MS version of the icon on a hidden tab so I don't have to see it.

09-09-2003, 09:46 AM	#18
n2ifp Retired Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester, NJ Posts: 12,444	That's fine if you use tabs, but I hate tabs, therefore I don't use them! FYI, When I put Net Monitor in Flash and run it in the VG area. If I go to select the VG keyboard, then Crash says crash and my Clie resets after a few seconds. I moved it back to RAM and all is well again. __________________ Cheers! Larry Winward T\|T3 + SE T610 + SE HBH-65 = BT Heaven!

09-09-2003, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by n2ifp
That's fine if you use tabs, but I hate tabs, therefore I don't use them!

Even if you don't use tabs, you can still use this approach. Just bring back tabs for a second, create a new tab, drag the duplicate icons to the new tab, then click on the new tab, and select the Hide tab option. Then, set tabs back to None in ZL Prefs.

Or, if you hate tabs so much that even the above would make you feel agitated, you can do the same without ever displaying tabs. With your normal setup, use Menu-Tab to create a new category. Do a T&H on the duplicate icons and move them to this category. Then with the category displaying, go to Menu-Tab-Tab Properties, and choose Hide Tab, and it will be gone (or you may need to go to Menu-Tab-Show/Hide Hidden Tabs to toggle it away).

09-09-2003, 11:54 AM	#20
n2ifp Retired Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester, NJ Posts: 12,444	Rod, Thanks, I'll give it try later! Me and tabs never got along, LOL __________________ Cheers! Larry Winward T\|T3 + SE T610 + SE HBH-65 = BT Heaven!

09-09-2003, 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rldunn
Also works fine for me. I just put the MS version of the icon on a hidden tab so I don't have to see it.

Great idea!

I have hidden tabs for background apps and Sony apps I've replaced (ie: Address Book, Date Book, Memo) but sometime foget about the option to hide em.

Thanks for the reminder.

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09-09-2003, 05:50 PM	#22
RetAF Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 30	For some inexplicable reason, TealPhone has recently decided not to work if it's in Flash, but will work fine in RAM. Up until about a week ago, it worked fine in flash. I'm baffled, but I simply moved it to RAM and all is well. Between Flash and MS, I have plenty of room, so I'm not worried. Using NX70V

09-09-2003, 06:02 PM	#23
stronggeek I'll be your huckleberry. Bronze Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: From the "city of brotherly love" to the Magic City! Posts: 1,435	DeepReader Doesn't work in flash. __________________ -Stronggeek If you ain't livin on the edge... . . . well then you're takin up too much space. Kickin with a Sony NX80 + HP 4705 + DSC-V1 + Qosmio G25 + 4g Microdrive + 512 Sony MS Pro + 1G Viking CF + Moto V710+ 128 Transflash +1g SD!

09-10-2003, 02:43 AM	#24
YTTAN Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,253	Anyone has a complete list of unworkable apps with Jackflash? __________________ TH55 + WIFI*NX80 + WIFI + Bluetooth +T630NZ90 + BlueTooth + T610 NX70 + Infra-red + T68i T615 + Infra-red + T68 N760 + Infra-red + T39 Palm Vx + Infra-red + T39**T1, F828, F717, F707, E995, IXUS I.

09-10-2003, 08:29 AM	#25
n2ifp Retired Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester, NJ Posts: 12,444	The problem is, not all users have the same problems. For example, some can run Wordsmith from Flash, others can't. At the moment I don't have a plausible explaination for it. __________________ Cheers! Larry Winward T\|T3 + SE T610 + SE HBH-65 = BT Heaven!

09-10-2003, 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by n2ifp
The problem is, not all users have the same problems. For example, some can run Wordsmith from Flash, others can't. At the moment I don't have a plausible explaination for it.

You mean diff device got diff. problem?

I don't think same device have diff. problem unless it is caused by internal conflict from diff applications.

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09-10-2003, 10:59 AM	#27
YTTAN Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,253	By the way, I still got about 10mb each from rom and ram. Due to some large game which can't be flash into rom like - GTS racing and Agression - more 1 mb each. Still need to depend on powerrun 1.3b5...too bad. Still trying to fill the flash rom...first time got problem to fillup the flash rom. Any suggestion which big files to put it into flash rom? __________________ TH55 + WIFI*NX80 + WIFI + Bluetooth +T630NZ90 + BlueTooth + T610 NX70 + Infra-red + T68i T615 + Infra-red + T68 N760 + Infra-red + T39 Palm Vx + Infra-red + T39**T1, F828, F717, F707, E995, IXUS I.

09-10-2003, 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by YTTAN
Anyone has a complete list of unworkable apps with Jackflash?

 

YTTAN We are or at least I'm trying to make a list from this thread.

I think Larry's referring to the fact that we all have different setups on our NX73/80's and so at times we're going to get different results with running progams in flash.

For instance Wordsmith and its Dict/Thes apps should work for everyone in flash if it's working for one of us.

It works for Larry, me some of the others, but none for some, so therefore those who aren't getting it to work must have a software conflict and/or different setting... somwhere.

I for one am not going to take everything out of ram and flash to check every conflict and besides most apps are working in flash anyway.

But I'm hoping by posting here we can see if others are having the same issues and then we can decide to go on trying or realize that this is one app that just won't function in flash or causes other apps to malfuntion while in flash.

Avantgo is one app that no one that I know of has been able to make work in flash (my soft-resets on exit from the app).

And you stated Agression won't work in flash and your right about Part 2, but Part 1 will run in flash and it's strange but every once in a while (and it may depend on what's stored in flash or ram at the time- I'll check it out later) I can get Part 2 to function in flash with Part 1.

You should post your own findings so we can add them the list though.

 

 

09-10-2003, 04:16 PM	#29
breakfastchef Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida, US Posts: 325	JackSafe I would like to ask a slightly off topic question(s).  Does anyone use JackSafe? I am not totally clear as to why I might want to use it. Can a backup from MS done with BB or MS Backup restore the flash after a hard reset without a desktop hotsynch? The JackSafe .txt mentions the need to do a full hotsynch after a hard reset before apps in flash will be visible. Just trying to get a handle on this animal. On my NX 80, so far, I have moved the following apps to Flash and all work fine. Agendus, HanDBase,  ALauncher, AcidImage, powerOnePersonal, SmartChart, Documents (DTG), DataVizMail, ZL Manager, ZReaderLite, Okey, Fonts4NXPics to Go (DTG) and BackupBuddy. Now I need to figure out what to put in all that free RAM. Larry

09-10-2003, 05:18 PM

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Re: JackSafe

Quote:

Originally posted by breakfastchef
I would like to ask a slightly off topic question(s).

 Does anyone use JackSafe? I am not totally clear as to why I might want to use it.

No, you don't need and can't use it.

JackSafe is for OS 4 units 

Can a backup from MS done with BB or MS Backup restore the flash after a hard reset without a desktop hotsynch?

Yes, you need JackFlash or Flash-Enable in your MS's launcher though.

n2ifp and Ridunn comment midway through this thread in other threads on how it works, but basically just restore from the stick and open up JF or FE from the MS launcher.

I keep FE in my flash and open JF from the MS or CF when I need it.

The JackSafe .txt mentions the need to do a full hotsynch after a hard reset before apps in flash will be visible.

Either a hotsync or MS/CF backup will do.

Just trying to get a handle on this animal.

On my NX 80, so far, I have moved the following apps to Flash and all work fine.

Agendus, HanDBase,  ALauncher, AcidImage, powerOnePersonal, SmartChart, Documents (DTG), DataVizMail, ZL Manager, ZReaderLite, Okey, Fonts4NXPics to Go (DTG) and BackupBuddy. Now I need to figure out what to put in all that free RAM.

 

You're doing great too Larry, but just wondering, how come you don't keep Zlauncher in flash as well.

Or is your flash already full with other stuff?