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08-30-2003, 10:08 PM	#1
Donmichaelo Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Santo Domingo Posts: 43	Eruware CF driver: Any update? I have been out for a while, is there any news out there related to the Eruware driver? Last update was 1.2....(nothing in their website..) __________________ Miguel

08-31-2003, 08:01 AM	#2
n2ifp Retired Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester, NJ Posts: 12,444	So far that's the latest version that I know of. __________________ Cheers! Larry Winward T\|T3 + SE T610 + SE HBH-65 = BT Heaven!

09-01-2003, 02:47 AM	#3
Siliconbug Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lonely California Posts: 175	I think most people prefer free SONY CF driver now....

09-01-2003, 03:07 AM	#4
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	Eruware ver.1.2 is the newest!....... ................................. ....................around 3 months ago. Nice that somebody brings this topic to light, since I would really like to know whatever happened to my $27.00 investment. __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

09-01-2003, 03:39 AM	#5
BClie2k HR+ Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 242	They promised a new update very soon and it's been a long time since that. Where are you guys? Do you still care about us who paid 27 bucks for something that now is free? Al __________________ It all started with a Blue Visor DLX.

09-01-2003, 09:02 AM	#6
mcullum Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Apple Valley Posts: 10	From what I see, Pelaca has done so much more for this community and for free. I just consider my $27.00 as an investment into my education and just makes me a little more wary as to pie in the sky claims from developers vs. reality. __________________ Casio>Avigo>Palm V>Palm Vx>m505>PegNR70V>PegNX70V

09-01-2003, 10:11 AM	#7
n2ifp Retired Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester, NJ Posts: 12,444	I am so tired of hearing about the lousy $27.00 bucks! Another developer was going to charge $40.00. At the time, some would have killed over a CF driver! I suppose everyone should toil for a few months for free! Shoot, all the bill collectors I am sure would be very understanding, right? All the illegal hacking has hurt a developer! A developer can't do those kinds of things! A lot has changed, either by design or by accident. I very much like Pelaca, and yes he has done a lot for everyone, especially in the modem department. His work involved hacking and packaging the apps along with a few others. A developer can NOT do this, sometimes people don't think. I was very much surprised that Reggie and Joel let it go on. I can't imagine any developer being happy with it. I personally believe in the long term, it will hurt us. I have nothing against Reggie or Joel as they are two very nice fellows who have been very generous to the members here at ClieSource. I am just trying to look at the bigger picture and our future as Clie owners. My 2 cents worth... PS: I blame everything on Sony and it's aggressive marketing practices!!! __________________ Cheers! Larry Winward T\|T3 + SE T610 + SE HBH-65 = BT Heaven! Last edited by n2ifp : 09-01-2003 at 10:14 AM.

09-01-2003, 11:03 AM

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I blame everything on Sony and it's aggressive marketing practices!!!

I agree! When it comes down to it, Sony's the master mind behind all this.

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09-01-2003, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by n2ifp
All the illegal hacking has hurt a developer! A developer can't do those kinds of things!I very much like Pelaca, and yes he has done a lot for everyone, especially in the modem department. His work involved hacking and packaging the apps along with a few others. A developer can NOT do this, sometimes people don't think.

Do you mean hacked SONY CF driver?

09-02-2003, 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by n2ifp
I am so tired of hearing about the lousy $27.00 bucks! Another developer was going to charge $40.00. At the time, some would have killed over a CF driver! I suppose everyone should toil for a few months for free! Shoot, all the bill collectors I am sure would be very understanding, right?

All the illegal hacking has hurt a developer! A developer can't do those kinds of things! A lot has changed, either by design or by accident. I very much like Pelaca, and yes he has done a lot for everyone, especially in the modem department. His work involved hacking and packaging the apps along with a few others. A developer can NOT do this, sometimes people don't think.

I was very much surprised that Reggie and Joel let it go on. I can't imagine any developer being happy with it. I personally believe in the long term, it will hurt us. I have nothing against Reggie or Joel as they are two very nice fellows who have been very generous to the members here at ClieSource. I am just trying to look at the bigger picture and our future as Clie owners.

My 2 cents worth...

PS: I blame everything on Sony and it's aggressive marketing practices!!!

My feelings EXACTLY !!

I support the developer fully and to that extend have not even remotely tried to use Pelaca's software.

No offence to Pelaca but i prefer to use a piece of software that was legally made and paid for.

Sure, use it if you dont want to pay the lousy software fees. But consider this.....

Whats going to happen when developers havent got the financial incentive to produce more ground breaking software?

We lose !

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09-02-2003, 08:09 PM	#11
mcullum Guest Posts: n/a	Once and for all, it's not about the "lousy $27.00". It's about the high expectations set by the developer vs. the actual delivered product. (i.e., delays in receiving order, delays in receiving codes, constant crashes, buggy product, lack of response to tech issues, etc.) I mean, come on, all the "fixes" were found and reported by paying customers. Don't you remember the 100's of posts reporting all of the fixes, workarounds, driver rollbacks and re-releases. Compare for yourselves the support ERUWARE has provided and the amazing support Pelaca has provided. (For FREE) I have no affiliations with either, just unbiased observations. It's truly amazing to see some of you stand up and cheer for ERUWARE despite their inability to properly service their client base or their product. It's obvious, at least to me, that some of you would fall on your own swords just to preserve the good name of ERUWARE. Yet, they don't appear willing to do the same. Just a couple of questions: 1. Should we be happy when we invest in a product that doesn't deliver as promised, just because that product ventures out in unchartered territory? 2. Should we not ask questions just because they are uncomfortable to some? I don't think that voicing our dissatisfaction with a product should be discouraged. Isn't that the purpose of these forums? Instead of "becoming so tired of these comments", convince my why I should pledge my allegiance to ERUWARE.

09-02-2003, 11:48 PM	#12
rob_squared That Voice In Your Head Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,694	Well, now that you've put your best foot forward, would you please insert it in your mouth? Point is, Eruware did it first, and they did it legally. I like Peleca but he did it for free because it would be illegal to sell it. __________________ Main Site Silkskins <--Read Disclaimer Over 2200 downloads at Cliesource

09-03-2003, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by mcullum
Once and for all, it's not about the "lousy $27.00". It's about the high expectations set by the developer vs. the actual delivered product. (i.e., delays in receiving order, delays in receiving codes, constant crashes, buggy product, lack of response to tech issues, etc.) I mean, come on, all the "fixes" were found and reported by paying customers. Don't you remember the 100's of posts reporting all of the fixes, workarounds, driver rollbacks and re-releases. Compare for yourselves the support ERUWARE has provided and the amazing support Pelaca has provided. (For FREE) I have no affiliations with either, just unbiased observations. It's truly amazing to see some of you stand up and cheer for ERUWARE despite their inability to properly service their client base or their product. It's obvious, at least to me, that some of you would fall on your own swords just to preserve the good name of ERUWARE. Yet, they don't appear willing to do the same. Just a couple of questions:

1. Should we be happy when we invest in a product that doesn't deliver as promised, just because that product ventures out in unchartered territory?

2. Should we not ask questions just because they are uncomfortable to some?

I don't think that voicing our dissatisfaction with a product should be discouraged. Isn't that the purpose of these forums? Instead of "becoming so tired of these comments", convince my why I should pledge my allegiance to ERUWARE.

Guys, guys, guys....please allow me to pick the crap out of his argument.

1. Its not about the lousy $27.00? You betcha bottom dollar it is! Do you know how many people are dying to get their hands on this software without paying the $27.00 U.S? Im in Australia and that equates to over $40.00 !! You know what? Im no tight wad. I laid my hard earned $$$'s down.

If it wasnt for Eruware having some sort of decent protection there would be 1000's of illegal versions floating around.

2. On a side note. Are you really a guest in Cliesource or are you already registered and just using a side ID. Just curious thats all.

3. Do you own the Eruware Driver?

4. How many times have you crashed your Clie using the driver? I've had my LEGAL and FULLY purchased driver from day one and yet have not managed to crash it once. Sure, i can say thats its not full proof but PLEASE dont make it out that its so dodgy you cant use it.

5. Delays in receiving product? I got mine within 3 hours and im in Australia ! You honestly expect them to deliver a ground breaking product to you in a nano second? Your living in fairy land. Have you any idea what this software did to the NX70V/NZ90 when it first came out? People were falling over themselves trying to get a copy.

6. Your telling us that its not good for us to advise developers of potential problems? Are you stupid. Show me a piece of software that is full proof and ill show you where the pot of gold is at the end of the rainbow. Every piece of software could use a good work over. Without us this software would not have developed to a stage where it is today. Im quite happy as im sure many of us are to contribute a great deal of time to the developer to help him/her deliver a product that many of us would find truly greatful. Yes, even give em some money for it. You go and try and get a programmer to develop a piece of software and see what they will charge you.

7. PELACA has developed a good product from what i read. However in saying that, the product he delivers is not a 'legal' copy. That is, it is a hacked piece of software. Is it not? If PELACA wanted to do it then good for him but im sorry i dont support the view that people should hack other peoples work. Love them or hate them SONY are the rightful owners of the software and they have every right to pursue that matter further. Please do not get me wrong. PELACA is one of those guys that tries to help everyone out and indeed has provided me with some advise, however i still cannot condone (nor should any web site) what he has done.

8. Have you had any problems with Eruware? Any emails that you have sent to Amir that have not been answered?

Cheez.....i could go on and on but i think ill stop there. Sure the Eruware driver is not perfect but what software is? It allows me to use the CF slot in my NX70 for normal CF Cards. This is the claim of Eruware. Pure and simple.

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09-03-2003, 07:59 AM	#14
Slugman Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 62	I just wanted to say how pleased I was with Eruware too... I bought my NX70v in the hope that a driver would be developed for the CF slot, so I could swap cards between it and my digi cam, and they were the only developer who delivered. I don't remember any false promises from them, the website cleary describes things that do and don't work, and I've not noticed any particular instablilty in the recent releases. They came out with these drivers long before Sony came up with any, and I've never regretted spending my $27...

09-03-2003, 08:14 AM	#15
tprime76 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 240	Wow, this is almost becoming a holy war. Just out of curiosity, has anyone who is "dissatisfied" with the Eruware driver emailed them to ask them about the problems you are having? I know it has been a while since they have published anything, and more than likely, they know that too. Creating their original driver took a long time (not sure EXACTLY how many months) and most likely the hacked driver changed their business model. In order to compete, they have to innovate. Innovation takes time. I agree that ERUWARE should be questioned, but they should not be bashed. They fulfilled their end of the bargain. For $27 we got the use of the CF slot on our CLIEs. Might be time that this thread was locked before it turns into an all out flame war. Topics to never discuss: politics, religion, ERUWARE driver....