iluvmypda

I havn't browsed the internet on a clie before, I'm wondering how is the internet. Do you think it is as dependable as a computer when it comes to browsing?

n2ifp

What do you mean dependable? A desktop PC obviously gives more options in browsing. The Clie browser was not intended to be better, only portable.

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Cliepro

net front is fine for the clie but remenber the screen is only 480 x 320

sonicboy

its the coolest thing I have seen all year..

I have not met a dead end online yet.. but Wi-Fi does drain the battery BIG TIME.. gotta get a bluetooth lappy next..

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mr_gkyc

Not to be a nay-sayer but...

I've had my WL100 with my NX70 for about a month. To answer your question rather pointedly, I don't rely on either browser on my CLIE for any critical need. (I use NetFront and WebPro.) As sonicboy and others have noted, browser from the CLIE is kinda cool. But once you get over that (and you will, trust me), the minor kinks and dysfunctions will get to you.

It isn't as bad as the above sounds but for what I've tried to do, there are enough road-blocks etc that I can only at best consider browsing to be a useful curiosity. That is, if I needed a reliable browser, my CLIE currently isn't it.

(However, here's a true story on WiFi. I was shopping a couple of weeks back and I was low on gas. I pulled over to a cul-de-sac near a shopping mall and decided to try my luck with my CLIE. Lo-and-behold, there was an unsecured AP available so I jumped online to www.gastips.com to check out the local gas prices. As the trend that evening was rising gas prices, I was looking for a station closeby where the price hadn't risen yet. I found one on gastips.com and drive there straight-away and filled up. The savings that evening was about CAD4, not bad for a couple of minutes with my CLIE.)

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Massman82

I completely disagree with mr_gcyc...Netfront on my NX works wonderfully and I have never had any problems with it. Probably supports as much as Netscape 4.0? Maybe some other stuff.

The only problem that I find is that it doesn't support Flash in webpages.

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mr_gkyc

Hi Massman82,

Note that I said "but for what I've tried to do". I don't disagree that you may find NetFront to be great. But on my NX70, there are enough issues. A few examples that really caps NF/CLIE's usefulness to me:

1. PTL are too common on an NX70. Navigate to www.ebay.com and do a search. Your resulting page will likely PTL. www.cnet.com is another big problem. The best thing I found to fight this is PDA/mobile-friendly pages but those aren't as common as I'd like.

2. I was trying to setup my CLIE with FatPort and navigated to www.fatport.com. I get an empty page. Switching between the various rendering option doesn't change anything. Can't explain this. Can anyone?

3. Microsoft Outlook Web is effectively useless with NetFront because of NF's inability to pop up a new window (to read an email message).

4. Various problems with my company's intranet that I won't get into...



If I stick to casual browsing, then great. But I was hoping that I could do more with my browser.

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greg elmassian

you may need a tweaked version of netfront, where it says it is compatible with ie6.... there is a thread on how to do this..

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sonicboy

1: I have only had 1 PTL error on the UX (I upped the cache and waved goodbye)

2: webdesigners suck

3: ok, a) you shouldnt be using microsoft anything and b) you canopen the URL of the pop-up and then use the back button, no?

4: intranet is your problem, talk to your system admin and get him to make it work on your clie

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mr_gkyc

Until I get a machine with more heap, PTL is the reality for me. What I don't quite understand is why NF is so heap-hungry compared to the other browsers.



The only viable solution I've found is to have multiple browser and switch to a different one when a problem crop up. But that's my point: you cannot reliably do this. For instance, because my company's intranet is behind a NAT firewall, a proxy-based browser like WebPro can't be used with the intranet.



This is not a realistic scenario. (Are you perchance syncing your CLIE with a Windows PC?)



I don't know how to open the URL of a link in NetFront. How do I do it?



Like that's going to go over well... but I see your point.

George

sonicboy

OK, but this is a UX forum so ptl isn't an issue for current UX users and needs to be said that it wont be an issue for future US users
well we are all looking foward to IP.v6 so if you live in america start wispering "IP.v6" in peoples ears and buy some red paint and start spraying "WE WANT IP.v6 NOW!!" all around the town..
I am not using microsoft anything sir.. it is a realistic scenario and believe me, it is a one worth your attentions
mmm, when I click a popup link it just says THIS IS A POPUP LINK DO YOU WANT TO OPEN IT IN THE SINGLE WINDOW OF NETFRONT? or words to that effect, then I click yes...
hehehe, c'mon, admin are just running around killing time all day anyway :P

ken800

another set of netfront questions:

can that OVERSIZED top bar be removed... geez, what a waste of real estate. when you zoom out, it's still huge. And I don't like people around me being able to CLEARLY read the web page I'm on -- especially when I have it on during a meeting or something.

why on earth did they not allow a minimum of 1 page popups for javascript or something similar. Simply turning it off makes some pages useless because you can't open the link...

it is unbelievably slow... is there a chance opera might find it's way to the uX50?

mine hangs and locks a lot when I am doing heavy browsing. I find I have to exit and come back fairly often to keep it running smoothly.

it always loads from cache... in a bulletin board, if you are on the main page and reload, then drill down to a thread previously viewed, you have to reload again... very annoying.

pelotas

INSTALL LINUX, PROBLEM SOLVED.

Bah. I can crash my linux box easier than my xp box. Anyway, the only thing that's somewhat annoying, is the small screen of the UX, it can get tiresome after half and hour or so.