thanos_silva

I will get my nx73 tomorrow
I NEVER have a pda before !
So. What is the firsts steps i have to do and wich programs to install ???

Hellllllllllpppp

n2ifp

First, put your Clie on charge and leave it until the light goes out or whatever indicates that it's fully charged.

Read the manuals, a lot of good info is in them

Install your new apps from the Sony CD.

If you have any PC skills, they can be applied to the Clie, keeping in mind some differences. For example a Memory Stick is a bit different than a hard drive, but they do basically the same thing. Get acclimated to it first, take your time to install and find apps. Make frequent multiple rolling backups, do not rely on the desktop PC and HotSync for backup. It's all too easily corrupted before you realize that you may have a problem. Most problems are memory errors, whether it's because of a bad or incompatible app to user induced .

Below are a couple of good links that can provide a wealth of information.

www.launchplug.com

http://www.tankerbob.com/palm/palm.htm

http://cbulock.iwarp.com/nx/

BTW, there is a search function in ClieSource that covers almost any topic that you can think of. Yes, it takes a little time, but there is much to get out of it.

Below is how Rldunn described to a friend how to upgrade from one Clie to another. There is some good info and advice included that may be of help to you! Good luck and enjoy your new Clie

Thanks to ridunn for the info below. He sent this to his friend who was upgrading from a NR to a NX.

Do not HotSync directly from the old Clie to the New! You'll end up with an unusable mess!

1) You want to be very careful in restoring your system. This is unlike any upgrade you've done before. Take your old machine and do a backup to the MS, then I would make a copy of the MS on your desktop using BackupBuddy or MSImport, and finally do one last hotsync of the NR. Make the copy of the MS in a safe folder that won't easily get deleted. Figure out what folder your Hotsync backup goes in (mine is c:\program files\sony handheld\rod) and move that entire folder to somewhere else, like your desktop.

1b) Before you restore files to the NX, install the Clie Desktop that comes on the NX CD (install the newer version later). Now go very carefully through the list of files in the NR Hotsync backup. I would make a separate folder that will be for files that you now want to install on the NX. In this new folder, I would recommend not putting any hacks or preference files (either system or file preferences). This means you're going to have to reenter a lot of reg codes and recategorize LX, but at least you'll have a clean system. DAs work fine on the NX, though any hack-based DA Launchers won't. I use McPhling and SelectDA (see the thread from yesterday in the NX forum) to launch my DAs. If you're uncertain whether or not a file is OK for the NX, I would error on the side of caution. Then take your "OK" files and install them. At this point, maybe try to run them all and make sure they're not crashing anything. If so, do a hard reset and repeat this step.

2) Get some great NX utilities - You will definitely want to get a copy of OKey v1.1, and you probably want to get a copy of Fonts4NX and CodeDiver. OKey is kind of like a replacement for PageDownHack and the old Jog Preferences menu for OS4. I have all 3 options checked. Super Jog Assist allows you to hold down the jog button in apps with buttons until one of the buttons is highlighted. You can then scroll between buttons using the jog dial and also use it to selec the button you want to hit. For example, when a DB alarm goes off, I hold the jog dial down until a button is highlighted, then scroll to the OK button, and hit select without needing to use my stylus. Scroll Up/Down does two things. It adds two very visible up down buttons to the status bar, and it also adds 4 hidden buttons that take the place of the hardware buttons. The battery icon launches whatever the DateBook button is set to launch, and the left, middle, and right parts of the clock section launch the Address, Todo, and Memo button apps. The Sticky Key Mode allows you to hit the Shift key let it go, then hit a letter and it will be capitalized. Same thing with the Function button. After using the NR, this takes awhile to get used to. Unfortunately, there is a bug so that even when this is unchecked, the Shift button works as if it's on (Function button doesn't work this way with the option unchecked), so I think it's less confusing to just leave it checked and get used to it. Once you do, it's very nice. This is a great app and it's freeware.

Fonts4NX allows you to use Lubak's fonts to replace the system fonts; similar to what FontHack did in OS4, but this is a stand-alone app. The latest version allows the unused fonts to be on the MS, and the app itself can be run from the MS.

CodeDiver does a lot of things, but I only use it to launch certain apps in high-res+ mode. For example, LX has a bug under OS5 so that Clie apps launch with the VG area showing. CodeDiver takes care of this problem. Just hit Add, select a specific app, select the button next to VirtualSilk, and change SizeChg to Set and change the Started Size to Long. Leave everything else as is and hit OK. I also use this same setting for BugMe, since depending on how BugMe was launched, it would sometimes launch with the VG area showing. For BugMe, I also have the StopedSize set to Long, but I'm not sure if that's needed or not. Works for me though. Finally, if you use Handyshopper, this app can make it high-res+, and it works great!! For HS, set SizeChg to Force, StartedSize to Long and StopedSize to Long. I also have SopedPlugin set to Same, but I'm not sure if that's needed. Leave everything else alone and hit OK. You now have a high-res+ HS!! One bug with this method is that if you launch HS and then want to bring the VG area back (to search for an item or to enter a new item), the screen looks a little screwy and it acts like it's frozen for a few seconds. It will eventually come back, but the bottom part of the screen won't look normal again until you go back to your launcher. It's harmless though, and I like having HS in full-screen mode so much that I just use my keyboard to enter things now and leave the VG area hidden.

3) Update apps to NX versions - McPhling is the big one here, if you use it. DON'T reinstall v4.3. You need to install v5.10. It's now a stand-alone app. The latest bleeding edge release of AcidImage also works great, and you're not going to believe how much faster pics load than they did on your NR.

4) If you used a backup app before, it probably won't work now. JBBackup, CardBackup, PIBackup, etc all don't run under OS5. BBVFS kinda works. It worked OK for me if I wanted to back up everything, but it was very hard to set specific items to backup at certain times. The good news is that MSBackup works very good on the NX and has reliable restores. The bad news is that MSBackup doesn't allow for scheduling. I also have a beta of CardBackup that works on the NX pretty good and does allow scheduling, and this should be released within a few weeks. But for now, I would stick with MSBackup and set an alarm in BugMe or DB5 to remind yourself to do it.

5) Most hacks don't work on the NX. I though that this would be a major factor for me, but it really wasn't. Some hacks have been converted into stand-alone versions, and others have other kinds of replacements. One hack I missed was ClearHack, which removed all of the lines, but there's a pretty good solution for this. Just get Colorize, click on Edit, then click on the Field tab, and set Lines to be the same color as background. Voila, no more lines.

6) RAM space. As you've probably heard, only 11MB of the 16MB of RAM is actually available, so if you have less than 5MB available on your NR, you may have to rearrange things on the NX. The good news is that launching apps from the MS is very fast on the NX. Except for apps I use very frequently, have alarms, or have conduits, I put everything else in the Launcher folder on the MS. A lot of people at CS like PowerRun, but I think LX is faster at launching these apps. I'm a registered PowerRun user from way back when it was the only solution (pre-MSMount days), so it's not a matter of free vs paying; I just think LX does a better job. Of course, the stuff I use has tiny databases for the most part, so being able to keep writeable databases on the MS was not a big selling point for me. YMMV.

That's all I can think of for now. Have fun with your new toy!!

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nickster87

Visit www.palmgear.com and www.handago.com for LOADS of cool software.

Oh yes. Do visit www.clieplanet.com for tons of news and updates.

Congrats on your purchase!!!!

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a_clie_er

i don't undstand why is it "very important" to charge untill lights goes off.. anyone ever charge for less than the suggested time and power on their clies??

rldunn

It's definitely not important for the batteries that the NX70 have. However, the NZ90 had a different type of battery, and for that one, it was important. Not sure what kind the NX73 has.

n2ifp

It does not only apply to Clies, most manufacturers suggest initially charging the battery for certain time so as to maximize battey life. That way a new owner has time to read he manual. At the same time they can't complain that the battery charge only lasted for 30 seconds.

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jbarr

Not having ever used a PDA, I would suggest that you simply play around with the different "native" apps to become familiar with the "PDA Concept". Just remember that initially, you really can't "break" anything other than possibly losing some data which you can typically re-create anyway.

-Learn how Graffiti works
-Learn how to edit (select/copy/paste, etc.)
-Learn how to create records (datebook, ToDo, Address, etc.)
-Learn how to HotSync
-Learn how to use the Memory Stick
-Learn how to search for stuff (Find)
-Play some games-it's fun and it familiarizes you with the Interface.
-By all means, read, Read, READ!

There is a wealth of information on these forums as well as the other sites that people have posted. You simply cannot find a better resource than the excellent information provided here.

Don't try to "do it all" at once. Take your time, learn just what your PDA can do, and then exploit its power based on what YOU want it to do!

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UZI4U182

Buying a Memory Stick itself is a good first step. For the NX series I'd recommend at least a 32-64MB stick, depending on what you want to use it for.

Also, if you plan on using Flash Player, check out my site: http://clieflash.shorturl.com

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skccs

Oh yes it is important to charge until the charging process ends. Due to the technologie of Li-Ion and Li-Polymer batteries there is some kind of stability-circuit process which might enven take another hour when the indicator shows 100 % charged (topping charge). I seriously suggest you do charge until the light goes off any pda or cellular-phone with these batteries!

Look at this article:

http://www.buchmann.ca/Chap4-page8.asp

"The charge time of all Li-ion batteries, when charged at a 1C initial current, is about 3 hours. The battery remains cool during charge. Full charge is attained after the voltage has reached the upper voltage threshold and the current has dropped and leveled off at about 3 percent of the nominal charge current."

and

"Some chargers claim to fast-charge a Li-ion battery in one hour or less. Such a charger eliminates stage 2 and goes directly to ‘ready’ once the voltage threshold is reached at the end of stage 1. The charge level at this point is about 70 percent. The topping charge typically takes twice as long as the initial charge."

rldunn

Sure, charging long will make the battery last longer until it runs out of juice. However, the point I was making is that the lithium-ion polymer batteries don't have any memory effect, so if your initial charge is a half charge (or any other percentage), then you play with it for awhile, then do a full charge, it will last just as long as if you had done a full charge initially. In other words, the amount of time that a battery lasts isn't diminished by doing a partial charge initially, as happens with Nickel-cadium batteries.

n2ifp

Warm Reset Procedure, also known as the Safe Mode of the Clie

This has bailed me out numerous times and save from having to do a hard reset, especially with skins and status bars.

Ok, very simple, you have to delete the application before it's loaded into the operating system. Once it's loaded, the operating system protects itself from crashing by locking the application.

By using the warm reset, it allows you to prevent the application from loading into the operating system. This way, it can be deleted without crashing the Clie.

You can do a warm reset, which is done by holding the page Up button while pushing in the reset button on the backside of the Clie with the pin from inside your stylus. This won't load anything so there will be no Virtual Graffiti area either. Hit Ctrl-H on the keyboard, go to the Clie Files(file manager), then you can delete the desired application. Afterwards, you then need to do a regular reset by using the little pin from inside your stylus to push the reset button in the backside of your Clie.

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n2ifp

How I restored my NX70 after a hard reset

Hopefully this maybe of use to some newbie who runs into trouble with a fully loaded Clie and using all the tools for memory management. There is no substitute for having multiple good backups. If you HotSync your Clie with a corrupted memory, the desktop backup will also be corrupted. In that case, one will have to delete the contents of the backup folder under your HotSync name before doing a HotSync again.

Since my main memory stick is now a MS Pro, I have to first load some files from my purple memory stick as follows:

I restored my Clie in the following order:

Copy to RAM the System update patch, then soft reset.

Copy to RAM the MS Pro memory stick driver, then soft reset.

Remove purple memory stick and insert the MS Pro memory stick.

Restore files from MS Backup, then do a soft reset.

Run JackFlash from the MS Pro memory stick to restore Flash ROM and then do a soft reset again.

Run PowerRun, then use the pull down menu and tap on update shortcuts. Do a soft reset one more time and now my Clie is already to go. No fatal errors or issues. In some cases if you have a WL100/110 driver for WiFi, it may have to be reinstalled. At the very least, you have to access the Network preferences first before trying to connect via WiFi. I don't know why this is, but others have had to do the same thing.

Unfortunately, I have NOT found any fool proof backup and restore for the OS5 NX Clie that can be done in one step.. Especially reinstalling the MS Pro driver so I can restore from the MS Pro memory stick.

 

Additional Comments

Originally posted by jackho
Because Larry is using MSPro for backup, so need to update MSPro first before restore all the things.

But I really want to ask Larry, how much contents in your RAM? IMHO, I think just 8MB MS is already enough for a backup if not too much files in RAM... And I often delete some backup files which are not needed (a68k, auto restore files, etc).

Hi Jackho and to the rest!

First of all, my way isn't the only way. I decided to take my time to ensure my restore would be a successful one. My precious Clie needs all the love I can give it. I put so much effort into making it a fine running machine. After a hard reset, I wanted to restore it to it's pristine condition . Sure a few corners could have been cut, but there was no reason to rush it. It doesn't take long for a reset on the NX or NZ. Some users are like a bull in a China shop and then can't understand why they have all those fatal errors, which makes the Clie experience less than enjoyable.

It occurred to me other night that in recent times, there was much discussion as to which backup program was best, but that doesn't tell the whole story. I realized that for a new user, the whole process can be quite overwhelming. That is why I decided to share my little experience. ClieSource has a wealth of information to be shared by everyone on almost everything Clie, and then some, LOL! There have been many contributors and if some of the newbie's take the time to read a bit, they can learn an awful lot. At least now there is some sort of game plan others can follow if they have no idea where to start. In that regard, I hope it's useful to some.

Jackho, to answer your query, yes, a 8MB purple memory stick could have been used. I can't assume though that everyone will be as diligent. Actually, I have two 32MB purple sticks. Each one has 4 MS Backups and 2 Backupman backups in addition to my MS Pro backups. It just so happens the MS Pro had the most current backup in the last 24 hours, so I chose to restore from there. In case someone didn't prepare a second memory stick, because of the MS Pro issue, they could always obtain a second stick, load the MS Pro driver, then restore from the backup on the MS Pro itself, provided there was one. I do keep multiple (4)backups of the MS Pro stick on my hard drive too. One always has to factor in Murphy's Law !

One piece of advice to new comers, never, but never, rely on the PC desktop backup alone

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Sensei

well, that was a lot of stuff to read. anyways, I agree, once your get it, put it in the Cradle. However, REMEMBER to get a screen protector. Don't want any scratches on that beautiful LCD screen.

dphar

Well, I must say, your first step of consulting ClieSource was an excellent one!

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