1src Forums - Hacking the NX73 CF Driver

06-26-2003, 07:41 AM	#16
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	Hi ricleo! well, using the Eruware's Driver in dual mode, I never had any problems with the AudioPlayer dealing with MP3, so running with the NX73 CF Driver I don't have any trouble at all what-so-ever! Really amazes me, how this NX73 CF Driver can turn out to be a workaround that offers similar functions as the eruware's driver. But then of course, I'm sure there're Pro's & Con's to this. Could Sony be making a fool of themselves by releasing this CF Driver for the new NX73/80? It opened up a new solutions for accessing to their "Banded applications" now?! __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

06-26-2003, 07:53 AM	#17
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	I'm anxiously waiting for day 3 but just as CliePet has already mentioned, it's the libs and the libx differences, I think pretty much he has given us a hint on the soft-reset to switch between the eruware driver & the NX73 CF hacked driver. One thing amazes me is that I can actually use a Compact Flash Card without the eruware driver inside. wierd feeling but everything works just exactly the same! __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

06-26-2003, 07:57 AM	#18
ricleo UX-50/T610 enabled Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,773	Hmmmm...the sony driver is more stable and reliable, and now its able to play movies and mp3s... this may turn out to be EruWare's biggest nightmare! Looks like EruWare has a huge job cut out for them to improve their driver by leaps and bounds. __________________ Pda History->M505 ->N710C -> T-665 ->NR70V ->NX70V ->NX80V -> Black NX73V-> UX50

06-26-2003, 08:06 AM	#19
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	well, pressure is good, since I am a registered user of eruware, wouldn't mind to see more enhanced features from them. __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

06-26-2003, 08:22 AM	#20
tiberian12 Guest Posts: n/a	I tried inserting the MS a few sec after the CF was inserted. The Audio player did play the mp3 but is inaudible. Could be too slow or sth. Btw, I am using the 128 Scan disk CF card. Could the card be the problem or sth? Anyone has any similar experiences?

06-26-2003, 08:53 AM	#21
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	well, I just changed back to my eruware driver as I find that more convient for now, you get to choose how & when you want to mount the Compact Flash Card. How as in, slow mode/ slow mount/ read only/ cache ON... etc... When as in, Automount, manual mount. Or not mounted but can still have the CF Card inserted. With the NX73 CF Driver you have to initially take out the CF inorder to avoid the Clie from reading off the Card. Just as an MS is inserted into the MS Slot. But waiting for CliePets greatest day 3 __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

06-26-2003, 09:18 AM	#22
cliener Registered User Bronze Contributor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: n/a Posts: 265	okay, still watching and waiting... I have been watching this driver (speculation, cf driver from Eruware, from about October 02) development from pretty close to the beginning and am still out on whether to buy it. If it is now out there for free, which the Eruware driver has been known to be a target for cracking/hacking then who is to say they will continue with any kind of enhancements now? I guess they could, but what is the point? cliepet has "hacked" the new driver, eddy says it does pretty much the same thing as the eruware driver so what is the initiative to continue? I would just move on and work on something else. Cliepet are you going to keep updating this? if so, to what point?

06-26-2003, 09:31 AM	#23
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	you have a point cliener As with CliePet his next step will be the method to switch swap between the NX73 CF & the Eruware CF to avoid conflict, because those 2 drivers can't co-exist with each other. IMHO, I'd like to keep the NX73's CF driver for it's stability, & use the eruware driver for the multi-media part, (since I already bought it.) __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

06-26-2003, 10:15 AM	#24
frasej Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Covington, Wa, USA Posts: 151	Okay, I'm lost or did something wrong. I followed the steps in part I and II, did the install, but neither MoverPlayer nor AudioPlayer see the CF. Filez sees it just fine, and so do other apps, but not those two. What did I miss? __________________ Jay

06-26-2003, 10:27 AM	#25
CliePet Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,424	cliener wrote: > I have been watching this driver (speculation, cf driver from Eruware, from about October 02) FWIW: I came on the scene late (skipping the NX and waiting for the NZ90) I had already missed the $$ collection ClieSource had taken up, the petition and almost a year of complaining about the lack of a Sony CF driver. At that time a different company was promising a CF driver (to be out some time in April/May if I recall). Things have changed a lot since Feb/March. ------- > ... which the Eruware driver has been known to be a target for cracking/hacking I don't think that is true. The ClieSource BBS has been very good about policing 'cracked' versions of retail software. AFAIK: there is no valid cracked version of the EruWare driver. (my terminology: hacking = enhancing = good, cracking = stealing = bad) --------- > eddy says it does pretty much the same thing as the eruware driver It depends on the apps you want to use. The main banned apps are still not working with the '3 bit' solution. I've asked Eddy for clarification, because I can't get the Audio Player to work (it sees the tracks but doesn't play them). It may be a problem specific to my CF cards --------- > Cliepet are you going to keep updating this? if so, to what point? No, I've reached my quota - 3 bits. --------- There are still other compatibility issues, and the key 'banned apps' that do not work. EruWare has technology for dealing with those things, and I assume they are still working on them -- in particular the movie camera capture IMHO: A driver with the stability and the speed of the Sony driver, and the ability to work with all the apps like the EruWare driver (including the movie camera) would be worth $27, even for NX73/80 owners. Disclaimer: I am a EruWare customer (not NDA beta tester). I don't work for Sony (although I like/buy/pimp their products) ==== frasej wrote: > I followed the steps in part I and II, did the install, but neither MoverPlayer nor AudioPlayer see the CF Does the MoviePlayer show a Memory Stick icon/dropdown at the top ? The AudioPlayer does not work (for me)

06-26-2003, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by CliePet
[Does the MoviePlayer show a Memory Stick icon/dropdown at the top ?
The AudioPlayer does not work (for me) [/B]

No, it shows "No Memory Stick Installed" or something similar.

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06-26-2003, 01:03 PM	#27
bigmotuhguy Guest Posts: n/a	thanks for this good HACK ^_^ the Audio Player can see the MP3 but still can't play! ^_^

06-26-2003, 01:48 PM	#28
Eddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 22°18'N/114°10'E Posts: 3,924	There's a solution to your can't play mp3 problem.... & it's being tested. __________________ PalmTX + 512SD UX50(JP)+256MB MS Pro NX70/V (JP)+1G SanDisk CF

06-26-2003, 01:53 PM	#29
cliener Guest Posts: n/a	I agree for the most part I know that Cliesource has been very good about cleaning up after posts stating cites that have supposed cracked versions of the eruware cf driver. However, I disagree that it isn't true that the driver has been a target of hackers/crackers from the first beta testing. It is a well known fact that info was leaked from the first beta. There are still cites NOT CLIESOURCE that push and list their eruware versions out there. I am sure Eruware is aware of these and there are numerous old posts to cliesource about this with ayasin being given the heads up. All I am saying is that there isn't any real business reason for Eruware to pursue further development. I think they have done a great job by giving us the initial driver and thus opening the door. I don't think they will view Cliepets attempts at working with the sony driver as "pulling the rug out from under them" because they seem to conduct themselves as a business regardless of how close they get to their clients in relation to the driver. I really hope to see other developments from Eruware and am looking forward to at least getting a glimpse of their next project.

06-26-2003, 07:36 PM	#30
pruss Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Waco TX Posts: 4,440	Well, some of us at least are a little picky about legality. I wouldn't use an illegally copied Sony driver. I suspect I am not alone in this. After all, a driver is just as much a piece of commercial software. The fact that it's bundled "for free" with the NX73 is irrelevant. And it's not really "for free" since the development costs add to the NX73's price. So for those of us who want to stay honest, it's Eruware. __________________ Alex Pruss For my shareware (FontSmoother, myKbd, mySkin, Accenter, FastLaunch and AtomClock) and freeware PalmOS software, go here: http://pruss.mobi