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10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
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#1 | | Software engineer/hacker
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Posts: 5,035
 | MY Retirement from the PalmOS world
Hello all,
So as has been announced before, nuRom for LifeDrive (out 3 days ago) and PowerSDHC (out a month ago) were to be my last major projects for PalmOS. I will of course continue updating them as needed, but I do not forsee many big PalmOS projects in the future.
Where to from here? Well, I am making my own OS (development name DGOS) that will eventually be 100% PalmOS compatible, and better than PalmOS. It's well on its way there. I will probably release it once it's ready. You've all been a great audence.
And to set the record straight. I will take back what i said in this interview about PalmOS and GarnetOS not being dead and revise it to be "Palm Inc's PalmOS may be dead, but hold on to your applications. DGOS will blow you away  "
Besides that, and many of you know I now work fulltime at VMware, and my future plans include getting an MBA. I will of course continue to be present on the forum .
Thank you all. It's been a pleasure.
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Former PalmOS developer
Current DGOS developer,
Dmitry Grinberg.
__________________ Annoying me is NOT an approved way of encouraging me to produce software My software:PowerSDHC, PowerDrive, nuRom, UDMH, warpSpeed, PowerDiGi, brightnessFix, etc... Get it all here:http://www.PalmPowerups.com | 
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10-14-2008, 07:23 PM
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#2 | | Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 195
| Times change and so do our lives.
Like the DGOS project. make sure you post a blog or something about it. I'd definately be interested in betaing.  | |
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10-14-2008, 07:52 PM
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#3 | | Aspiring Developer
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In a cow?
Posts: 469
| What about Zodiac support for PowerSDHC?!?!? 
I just hope DGOS runs on either the Panora or the Zodiac... 
Also, any chance of releasing your abandoned projects as source? (such as that UI demo thing, etc)......not gonna happen, but at least i tried ...
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10-14-2008, 08:13 PM
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#4 | | Software engineer/hacker
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Posts: 5,035
| Quote: | Originally Posted by icefireicefire Also, any chance of releasing your abandoned projects as source? |
no
my source stays with me :-)
lots of it will be useful in dgos
for example my UI is ....skinUI
my power manager is ... dynaclock
my touchscreen manager is ... powerdigi
my memory manager is ... palmVM
see a pattern?
__________________ Annoying me is NOT an approved way of encouraging me to produce software My software:PowerSDHC, PowerDrive, nuRom, UDMH, warpSpeed, PowerDiGi, brightnessFix, etc... Get it all here:http://www.PalmPowerups.com | |
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10-14-2008, 08:17 PM
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#5 | | Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,118
| Any possibility to have PalmSFX to work on LD or TX? | |
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10-14-2008, 11:16 PM
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#6 | | Embedded Systems Software
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 67
| aw... You never did add support for my TG50 to BrightnessFix.
Oh well... | |
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10-15-2008, 01:32 AM
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#7 | | Software engineer/hacker
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Posts: 5,035
| actually i am geting a tg50 soon
so i just might :-)
remind me in a week [email me continuously till i reply]
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10-15-2008, 05:45 AM
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#8 | | Tungsten T3 - The One
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lima, Perú
Posts: 744
| hm, I can understand you - and I am soooo anxious to se your new OS. I hope it will not just be a ntfs system, but my beautifull T3 will be able to run it too
Enjoy
Ruben | |
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10-15-2008, 06:15 AM
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#9 | | My T|X loves this site!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 612
| I am a bit intrigued by your announcement... won't DGOS get tangled in copyright wars? can you really support Palm OS apps without their consent?
A second thought: I am convinced that you have what it takes when it comes to the OS... however, these PDA's and Smartphones sell more because of the apps than because of the OS. Whose going to develop PIMs for you? Or is DGOS going to be stuck with Palm OS's old PIM apps? Quote: | Originally Posted by Yoda :)
Use the Source, Mitia, use the Source... |
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10-15-2008, 07:17 AM
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#10 | | Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 92
| Dmitry,
Thanks for all your work,
Regards,
gregt3
T2->T3->T5->TX | |
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10-15-2008, 10:04 AM
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#11 | | Embedded Systems Software
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 67
| Sweet!
Would DGOS be able to be launched from the PalmOS, or do you need to be able to replace the ROM image?" (which I can't do, mine is truely ROM, not flash or EEPROM) | |
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10-15-2008, 10:07 AM
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#12 | | Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 23
| Dude-Your work is amazing. I hate to see you go, but it's always to bigger and better things, right? It's cool you got into VMWare. Maybe they'll get moving, because development has seemed kind of slow for them lately.
PGR-I don't think it will have issues because I think it would be along the same lines as like a World of Warcraft private server. If he's making it himself, it should be fine. And also, look at style tap for Windows Mobile. There is no way they had copyright issues and be able to sell it for that cheap. | |
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10-15-2008, 11:44 AM
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#13 | | Software engineer/hacker
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Pgr I am a bit intrigued by your announcement... won't DGOS get tangled in copyright wars? can you really support Palm OS apps without their consent? |
Reverse engineering for the purposes of compatibility is 100% legal (See emulators) and since i do not even need an original ROM to make ti work, they have nothing on me, except for maybe suing me for making them look foolish. Quote: | Originally Posted by Pgr
A second thought: I am convinced that you have what it takes when it comes to the OS... however, these PDA's and Smartphones sell more because of the apps than because of the OS. Whose going to develop PIMs for you? Or is DGOS going to be stuck with Palm OS's old PIM apps? |
whatever you install
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10-15-2008, 12:00 PM
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#14 | | Linux Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jackson, NJ
Posts: 738
| Quote: | Originally Posted by jjwoznia Dude-Your work is amazing. I hate to see you go, but it's always to bigger and better things, right? It's cool you got into VMWare. Maybe they'll get moving, because development has seemed kind of slow for them lately.
PGR-I don't think it will have issues because I think it would be along the same lines as like a World of Warcraft private server. If he's making it himself, it should be fine. And also, look at style tap for Windows Mobile. There is no way they had copyright issues and be able to sell it for that cheap. | I'm pretty sure private WoW servers break the EULA.
Anyway, good luck to Dmitry and I hope to see your project unfold soon!
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10-15-2008, 12:17 PM
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#15 | | My T|X loves this site!
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by dmitrygr whatever you install |
Ok, so what exactly is the scenario?...
a) I buy a Palm device which brings some licensed PIM's with it, plus Web browser, etc., then I buy DGOS and upgrade my Palm device; or
b) I buy a non-palm device, then buy DGOS, then buy 10 apps to make it work; or
c) I buy a non-palm device, then buy DGOS, then transfer (illegally?) Palm PIM's onto this device?
d) how about starting an open-source project for DGOS base PIMS, I mean, the ones that would ship with DGOS so it's fully operational from the start? 
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