1src Forums - Palm's sickening action Vs. Top Developer

08-16-2008, 03:39 AM	#1
wils_place Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 17	Palm's sickening action Vs. Top Developer Hi Guys, just want to direct your attention to this piece of news. http://www.pda-247.com/forum/showth...?threadid=23749 Enough Said More Links http://www.plmpowerups.com/PalmPowerups.php http://www.plmpowerups.com/PalmLetter.pdf

08-16-2008, 09:03 AM	#2
Clie Patra Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 387	Instead of thanking Dmitri for ironing out a lot of Palm's flaws and bugs, this is how they treat him. I seriously think they lost their minds (the Foleo was a first sign of that, now this). __________________ Samsung Galaxy Note 2

08-16-2008, 09:39 AM	#3
Dick Tracy Detective Join Date: May 2005 Location: Are we there yet? Posts: 1,403	If one uses any trademarked name in any product that produces revenue, one better get permission from the trademark owner first. Palm is within their rights to take the action they did.

08-16-2008, 12:19 PM	#4
lichan Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 64	But by ignoring many other more well-traveled websites that sell software with Palm in their name they have shown that they are not interested in protecting their trademark but in carrying out a vendetta against Dmitry. Last edited by lichan : 08-16-2008 at 12:21 PM.

08-16-2008, 03:50 PM	#5
_Em Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Igloo Posts: 2,377	Considering Palm is as common a word as Window, I think Palm Inc. would have an EXTREMELY hard time enforcing this suit. Palm, Inc has a trademark on Palm Pilot(R), PalmOS(R), Palm, Inc.(R), but I don't think they can trademark "palm", even in relationship to handheld devices. Since Dmitry is not using their logo, colors, software links, trademarked names or other palm-related items, I think the only thing that stops him from ignoring this is that they've got more money than he does and he doesn't want to get into a lawsuit with an already embattled company that he's trying to sell software for. Personally, I would have renamed it to PαlmPowerups or something similar (second letter is alpha, for those of you who don't see it display correctly). __________________ My Palm family: Palm T\|X ~ Palm T\|E ~ m130 ~ m125 ~ POSE

08-16-2008, 04:04 PM

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Considering Palm is as common a word as Window, I think Palm Inc. would have an EXTREMELY hard time enforcing this suit.

What suit? From what I can tell, he got a letter asking him to rename his site and software. He's agreed to do that. The issue seems closed. Why all the hand wringing and crying?

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08-16-2008, 05:31 PM	#7
Dick Tracy Detective Join Date: May 2005 Location: Are we there yet? Posts: 1,403	Palm IS a trademarked name and Dmitry was using it in PalmSDHC. If you do a little homework, you will find that ZZTechs recently renamed one of their applications after receiving a similar letter. Their reaction has been significantly more mature than Dmitry's.

08-16-2008, 07:44 PM	#8
Joel 1src Co-Founder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Guam Posts: 4,517	If I remember right, we got a similar letter from Sony and Palm a few years ago. No issues there, we changed things around ... and the site remained as happy as ever.

08-16-2008, 09:11 PM	#9
BaDZeD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 302	Palm was totally within their rights to ask the developer not to infinge on their trademark. Otherwise, they could end up loosing their brand like Spam and Rollerblade,

08-16-2008, 09:29 PM	#10
harpgliss Me and my Itouch Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pixar Studios Posts: 709	Hi, Nice to see some mature, nice word Dick Tracy, posts about this subject. There has been a lot of rhetoric and misdirection on this subject but is clearly a matter of looking after their own brand. For those looking for conspiracies, there is a new XFiles movie out to sate your appetite. David __________________ "There's a reason why there are monsters in children's closets - it's their job."

08-17-2008, 06:58 AM	#11
StoneRyno Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 519	As pointed out though why request this name to be changed but at least a 1/2 dozen other commercial sites who all use "Palm" in their names not be forced to change their names. To be honest this is petty of Palm and also as someone else mentioned seemed to be a targeted attack against this developer for having fixed problems with their devices through 3rd party solutions. IMO I think Palm should apologize for making the request if not offer something more in a show of gratitude for his help. I'm sure without the 3rd party solutions Palm would not have sold as many devices as they have and possibly still do.

08-17-2008, 08:44 AM	#12
headcronie Palm Greyscale Junky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 535	How long can you choose to ignore the fact that other companies have changed the name of their products in recent days? Get over it. It is not targeted at Dmitry because of his driver development. Coincidental? At most, yes. Otherwise, you're just looking to blame fault. __________________ Brighthand mod staff

08-17-2008, 10:52 AM	#13
reb2 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 60	Palm thought that they could intimidate Dimitry and now they are trying to save face by some late action toward a few others. The damage to palm and there name is now complete and it has been done by there own paranoid action. Palm makes more money on smart phones. They would like to see the original OS for palm disappear in hopes that a larger number of users would by the over priced smart phones with limited function. I do not blame them for trying to follow a market trend to get sales. I do blame them for not giving and discouraging any support for there existing devises.

08-17-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by reb2

Palm thought that they could intimidate Dimitry and now they are trying to save face by some late action toward a few others.

And you know this time line for fact? I'd like to see your Palm internal document showing when Dmitry was notified and then the time that the others were. Or are you just creating this as you go?

Lets get real here people.

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08-17-2008, 11:51 AM	#15
wjriii Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 6	Was Palm within their rights? Yes. Do they have discretion as to when to assert their right? Yes. Without more concrete facts, everything else is opinion and supposition.