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Old 07-05-2008, 07:32 AM   #16
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Does the iPhone have a memory slot?

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Old 07-05-2008, 07:42 AM   #17
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No nothing like that, not even a user changeable battery - as far as we know.
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:19 AM   #18
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This thread is an education for those of us who don't have an iPhone. My general impressions:

"I'm a spendthrift, or my company supplies a lot of pricey infrastructure, so I think I'll get an iPhone for its anywhere connectivity and nice, modern interface."

$200 for a TH55 with Docs2Go (I've *created* most of my spreadsheets right there on the TH55).
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$Thousands for the iPhone and recurring contract and MS Exchange and iTunes lock-in (e.g., Audible subscription rather than free library audiobooks).

From Dmitry on workplace need for Exchange: "3. i am sorry to hear this." I got a good laugh at this.

From Joel: "3. It's so stable that I haven't synced after the first sync." So was my Clie SJ20 for these past 5 years, and I got cocky too, but it has just begun to reset for no discernible reason. Everything breaks. Be careful.

For those who want a simple scientific TH55 calculator with conversions, like the fable of Goldilocks and the three Bears, I found the free Calcul-8! to be just right.
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:39 AM   #19
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$200 for a TH55 with Docs2Go (I've *created* most of my spreadsheets right there on the TH55).
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$Thousands for the iPhone and recurring contract and MS Exchange and iTunes lock-in (e.g., Audible subscription rather than free library audiobooks).


There's nothing to stop you grabbing the whole Gutenberg catalogue and using the Automator text to MP3 function to create literally thousands of audiobooks for free. Or look for torrents.

I don't have an iPhone and for format and other reasons don't want one as a phone but I adore my Touch (though wish it were an iPhone minus the phone bit...).

Time and technology move on. I still think the 'best' PDA I ever had was my original Psion but the best 'connected' PDA was the TH55. I moved to Mac a few years back and the integration would no doubt make me cite the iPhone as the best 'connected and integrated' PDA if I had one. The manual pinch screen zooming on a Touch/iPhone is a fantastic feature and one I sorely miss on my MacBook you need to live with it to fully appreciate it. The new MobileMe service will revolutionise conncectivity on the platform.
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No nothing like that, not even a user changeable battery - as far as we know.


I didn't think so, that's too bad. No matter how much memory a device comes with, the user will fill it up and want more The battery is no biggie, the TH55 technically isn't user exchangeable either, but it can be done.

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Old 07-05-2008, 08:48 AM   #21
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I didn't think so, that's too bad. No matter how much memory a device comes with, the user will fill it up and want more The battery is no biggie, the TH55 technically isn't user exchangeable either, but it can be done.

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I think the iPhone would be similar but no one will do it while under contract.

See my post above but the thing I have to stress with the Touch/iPhone series is the ease connectivity and of moving data around. At the moment Apple are limiting the things that can be done with the platform but once the app store is fully open I think there will be a fantastic number of truly useful apps esp. if you're a Mac user.

Interestingly there's a very strange pricing problem brewing for Apple - the iPhone is a great iPod and given that people use phones and carry MP3 players with them the iPhone is now making the Touch look overpriced. Add in the summer student program (free 8Gb Touch with a Mac) and I think we're going to see a very different Touch launched in the Autumn with a completely different pricing structure.
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:52 PM   #22
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Does the iPhone have a memory slot?

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No, but I think 16GB is plenty for now.
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No, but I think 16GB is plenty for now.

Once Dmitry gets SDHC, Palm TX can have a 16GB card.
Then of course the Palm TX just needs a proper browser. NetFront is a start, but I hate the constant "Page too big" errors and inability to have embedded media and lack of AJAX.


Though, realistically speaking, if I was a new user, trying to decide between an iPod Touch and a Palm TX, I'd go iPod Touch immediately.

In order to get the Palm TX up to a level of functionality as the iPod Touch, several software purchases are required (Coreplayer, a proper launcher, etc.), as well as an SDHC card. Overall, the Palm TX cost at least $100 more than the 16GB iPod Touch to get it up to par. However, once your TX has all that functionality, there's much farther you can go with the Palm TX than the iPod Touch.
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While I drooled watching the keynote for the iPhone 3G, I just can't get it. AT&T pricing plans is just outrageous. Also the lack of 3G in my area is a big flag. Even though they keep on touting faster speeds I just have to keep reminding myself that I wouldn't be able to use that speed. The big temptation though is that 3G, I love the location awareness apps they have and can't wait to see what other apps will be developed with that in mind. 3G no good for me so next upgrade is just to get a 32GB iPod touch. Oh, I have to say that I do love that calendar events can be color coded. I do hope we can do that on the iPhone/iPod touch device itself and not have to go through iCal or mobileme.
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Well, I like the iPhone, but I'm a bit old-fashioned about cell phones (if you can call anything about cell phones old fashioned as they've only been popular for about 10+ years) and I don't want to pay for a data plan. That leaves the iPhone out. Also, I can't really give up ALL of my Palm apps. I use a ton of them, but a few are indespensible! Finally, I can use my trusty TH55 with only on hand for many functions whereas the iPhone is a two-handed affair. iPhone doesn't replace my TH55 and probably never will. Which worries me as I'm now using my "new" backup '55 because the backlight went out on the one that I used for four years. So if something happens to my "new" backup, brrrr, I can't stand the thought of it.
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I initially drooled at the thought of an iPhone. Decided to pass as 500+ was just ridiculous.

Since playing with a friend's, the main thing that bugs is no IR ports. I've used Palms, Clies and PPC's and IR's a requirement now.

For now, I'll continue using a $20 cell and a TH55.
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Since playing with a friend's, the main thing that bugs is no IR ports. I've used Palms, Clies and PPC's and IR's a requirement now.


I agree, but manufacturers seem to be leaving out IR. E.g., most new HTC Windows Mobile smartphones like the Touch, and the new iPAQ PDAs (110/111/210/211).
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9. Really? Did you forget that you cannot buy one without signing for a 2 year plan worth at least $50 a month. Unlike the original iPhone you cannot buy it without a plan - it will not work. They are shipped to stores with iTunes and video playback disabled, and this is enabled in the store right after you sign the contract using a secret apple-only cable and a secret PC application and a VERY long digital signature..


I confirmed this with AT&T store. For those who are thinking about getting iPhone, the difference between old iPhone vs iPhone3G are:

Old iPhone:
1. No need to have 2-yr contract.
2. Unlimited data download for $20/month
3. 200 text messages /month are included in the $20/month

iPhone3G:
1. Required to have 2-yr contract.
2. Unlimited data download + GPS for $30/month
3. Add $5/10/15/20 for 200/400/1500/ unlimited tex messages /month
4. $175 for breaking the contract
5. More coverage, i.e., it'll connect to 3G and 2G (Edge) where 3G is not available.

I'm going to get it anyway this Friday morning.
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#2 is BS. Go ahead and download 30 GB in a month and watch your data connection get disconnected, contract canceled, and you paying the termination fee
#5 is also bullshit, since there is NO area that has 3G only coverage. thus 3G coverage is a strict subset of 2G coverage, so you get no more coverage then you did before....
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I agree, but manufacturers seem to be leaving out IR. E.g., most new HTC Windows Mobile smartphones like the Touch, and the new iPAQ PDAs (110/111/210/211).

I think only the Palm is still including IR on their devices. The Palm Treo 800w will still have an IR built-in. I think it can still be very useful, you can install software like Noviremote so you can use your phone as a universal remote control for your home theater system.
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