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Old 11-19-2007, 11:47 AM   #31
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Aw darn. _Em have you seen that really cool new HP IPAQ 210 coming out?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:52 AM   #32
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Thanks Cyberdude

Phew, I'm glad everyone here is right-handed

I'm almost done with StatusBar Landscape, and that was a lot easier than I thought it would be.

Now question of the day: Is everyone happy with the launcher background, or should I ditch the "shadow" effect and make universal icons (you can't have both in 16-bit)?

Love the background. My problem is probably going to be that I don't know if I'll be able to use any of it at all. Can I use something like appicon to do the icons? I don't have zlauncher - I'm a LauncherX user. If I could implement most of this in SkinUI I'd be happy, although I'm not sure how easy it would be to get the icons into an appicon pack. I haven't been able to get iconsplus to work successfully on my TX (another difference between my TX and PCQ's).
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Love the background. My problem is probably going to be that I don't know if I'll be able to use any of it at all. Can I use something like appicon to do the icons? I don't have zlauncher - I'm a LauncherX user. If I could implement most of this in SkinUI I'd be happy, although I'm not sure how easy it would be to get the icons into an appicon pack. I haven't been able to get iconsplus to work successfully on my TX (another difference between my TX and PCQ's).


There are not that many icons (only 29), so I could literally make an Appicon pack in 5 minutes. As long as LX supports backgrounds, you should be able to use the background. To make iconPlus work on the TX, you need to RLock it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:28 PM   #34
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There are not that many icons (only 29), so I could literally make an Appicon pack in 5 minutes. As long as LX supports backgrounds, you should be able to use the background. To make iconPlus work on the TX, you need to RLock it.

LX doesn't support backgrounds. Thanks for the tip on iconplus though. I'd love to have an iconpack for appicon (since I don't have IP working yet). Since the background is not going to work for me - I guess I'd vote for dropping the shadows, no keep the shadows - I'll survive until LX supports backgrounds. (your project should not be compromised!)
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LX doesn't support backgrounds. Thanks for the tip on iconplus though. I'd love to have an iconpack for appicon (since I don't have IP working yet). Since the background is not going to work for me - I guess I'd vote for dropping the shadows, no keep the shadows - I'll survive until LX supports backgrounds. (your project should not be compromised!)


That's terrible that LX doesn't support backgrounds (my launcher of choice ScrBtn doesn't either). As I said I'll make an Appicon set, because it is really easy to do, and I think I'll make both a shadowed, and unshadowed icon sets.

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That's terrible that LX doesn't support backgrounds (my launcher of choice ScrBtn doesn't either). As I said I'll make an Appicon set, because it is really easy to do, and I think I'll make both a shadowed, and unshadowed icon sets.

@Alex http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2007/11/19/2196/

Yeah I know - background support is on the top of the request list for the next iteration of the product. Thanks a bunch for making a AppIcon set also. And shadowed and unshadowed icon sets - fantastic!

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LX doesn't support backgrounds.
True that it doesn't support bacgrounds, but it will let you change the "canvas" on each tab to some other color, in this case I guess some medium gray. That might work OK while you wait for background support in the next Launcher X version, if it ever materializes. I don't know about the shadows, which depend on how they are made, I suppose.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am a long-time Launcher X user and don't plan to abandon it. I personally don't care to have busy background images anyway and never used them when I was flirting with ZLauncher. The background for this project would be fine, though.

Add me to the list of those who'd be grateful for an AppIcon set, whether or not it otherwise works with my launcher of choice.
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JFYI

The background is *almost* one solid grey, so I think just the right color of grey as a background would probable do the trick. The background is implemented right into the icons, if that makes a difference.
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As far as I am concerned, a background pic will do (Iīm using appshelf, so I need two: 320x480 and 480x320 since it looks like horizontal lines on that pic), and I donīt need a left-handed version. Youīve already mentionened PalmRevolt, so everything is fine

I found pinskin2, thx, butīll not work with displaymanager - every up and down of the statbar looses the "pinskin2-setting", so itīs pretty useless...
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The background is implemented right into the icons, if that makes a difference.
Does this mean the icons aren't surrounded by the usual transparent areas, which then let whatever the current background might be show through? If not, then the icons will look really odd against any other background than yours. Maybe you don't want anyone to use them apart from the rest of your project, but if you do (and they are really nice looking), you might want to use transparency rather than building the backgrounds into the icons.

If I've misunderstood, well then, never mind!
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You understood correctly, here's a screen of the icons in IconPlus



The way they are now, the icons could only be used on this background, that is why I'm considering also bundling universal icons.

Juggernaut, the package will include this 480x480 background, so you could use the Media + Appshelf Snapshot tool to get two 320x480 pics
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The way they are now, the icons could only be used on this background, that is why I'm considering also bundling universal icons.
I don't see why you couldn't preserve the shadows in the "universal" set, if you want to. (I recall that you said earlier that you were thinking of separate sets with and without shadows.)
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I don't see why you couldn't preserve the shadows in the "universal" set, if you want to. (I recall that you said earlier that you were thinking of separate sets with and without shadows.)


Because if you think about it, it just can't work. if someone has a white background a shadow of super dark won't look good. And if someone has a background of super dark, the shadow will be lighter than the background, that won't look good either. The only way the shadow will look right, is if it is on that background. Shadow is not a supported feature in 16-bit, but in 32/24-bit it is a totally different story. The 'shadow' is not a specific color, but a level of transparency, where the pixels right behind the icon are only a small percent transparent, and the ones farthest away are almost 100% transparent. this makes it compatible with any background.
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I hope that wasn't to confusing, lol.
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Yeah... I don't use ZLauncher but I do use IconsPlus - so I am hoping to be able to use your icons with my launcher of choice (iSpin) and my own backgrounds. So I personally would prefer the regular transparent backgrounds to the icons. Just my $.02
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