Alan G

No TX2! ACCESS releases the Garnet VM for Nokia Internet tablets, and rumors of a GSM Centro persist after a review was posted online! Check out this week's 1SRC Podcast! [details]

holvoetn

Alan, something went wrong.
You made a reference to the file 1srcpodcast153.mp3 whereas it should have been 1srcpodcast155.mp3 (caught that because when I wanted to copy it first to my archive on USB drive it asked me to OVERWRITE which made me go "uh oh, something's not right here" )
Listening to the podcast I conclude it is indeed the 153 podcast. Can this be fixed pls ?
Manually correcting the link to point to 155 seems to be a workaround for now:
http://www.1src.com/podcasts/1srcpodcast155.mp3

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holvoetn

Re: Centro GSM: Google Cache to the rescue
http://tinyurl.com/252upp

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Alan G

H,

Thanks for the catch on the podcast. It looked like the link for the .mp3 download from the show notes was still pointing to show 153. The link in the feed for download via iTunes, for example, was correct. Show 155 should download normally for all download options.

And thanks for finding the Google cache of the Centro review. I've captured it for future reference.

Alan G

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holvoetn

iTunes ? Who needs i<whatever> when you have a Palm PDA ?

You really need to walk the talk, Alan

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g-funkster

iDo

Thanks for the cache link.

Alan G

Walk the wal.....Holvy, you know I'm and uber Palm geek. But I have been using Apple hardware since 1984 so my loyalties are split.

I do have non-DRM music on my Treo. Does that count?

Alan G
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ewah

I wanted to comment on the access release of garnet vm.

First your information on the pricing of the n800 was incorrect. The current street price is around $250 since the n810 release in the US is about two weeks away. The older device is the n770 and the fact that the vm runs on this device is impressive. The n810 which has two new features builtin GPS and a slide out keyboard will be between $400-$450 when released. Also if you go on Access' website and check the FAQ the garnet vm will be free even after it is out of beta.

I want to comment on three different aspects of what this news means. First a quick review. Back a few years I believe it was Palm's strategy to separate the hardware from the software, to get the OS on more devices, hence the spin off of palm source from palm. This failed for whatever reason but the concept was correct in my opinion, lets get the palm os and apps running on as many devices as possible. Fast forward to this weeks announcement and this goal has been acheived or atleast still has some legs left. Now since Palm isn't the company making this news there are two sides to this news.

For Palm the cell phone company this is a complete disaster unless they are helping access behind the scenes which I doubt. That a company can release the older version of palm os on a linux device before them (and I doubt the n-series will be the last) must sting to no end. If access makes this work well they could license the garnet vm to any and all cell phone makers and palms unique status of running palm apps is gone.

Now for the User and lover and or Developer of palm apps this is great news. With the recent announcement from Google about android and the lack of Palm apparently taking part I was thinking the death of the palm developer was right around the corner. Now with Access reviving the old OS which most apps run on anyway on new hardware, faster processors, etc the palm developer may stick around long enough to create some new and exciting apps. Thinking over the last several years I can't think of any really earthshattering palm apps although I admit to checking out of the day to day palm software scene in favor of the n-series and linux.

So in the end this is a huge win for users and developers who love the palm os apps. As for palm I think it is just another nail in their coffin.

tim

tk_421

That's strange... At the Centro release, I believe Ed Colligan said that they were not abandonning the PDAs, just that they had been neglected because of the focus on smartphones. From his comment, it really felt like they were considering releasing another one. This was on 1src, but I couldn't find it in the archives. It was at the digital st conference, were they first showed the Centro.

For me, it's very simple: I need a large screen all-in-one device in my pocket. One that serves as a phone, camera, voice recorder, personnal organizer, finances, ebook reader, language dictionaries, music and media, picture wallet, and internet through wifi. Right now the only such devices are from the windows mobile camp. But wm has this "laptop" feeling I just don't like carrying around when I go out with friends or go for a walk. I need something more user-friendly, more "lifestyle".


I don't really want a TX2, just a TX with a cell radio. That strategy seems to be working for Apple. Why can't Palm release such a device is beyond me.


So the writing is on the wall for me as well: I'll enjoy my TX while it lasts, and in when the iphone will get the third party applications I need, I will just get one. Only TX with cell radio could make me change my mind at this point. The Treo's screen is just too small for me.


The release of the iphone SDK will be the kiss of death for Palm. Development on the iPhone will dwarf current development on the PalmOS, or even PalmOS 2 for that matter.


Palm perhaps knows this, which is why it is going for the casual market with a device like the Centro. If that stance can accelerate iphone development, than it's great I guess.


Let's not forget that Apple invented the PDA. It's only natural that they will carry the flame once again.

ewah

Remember the iphone runs a version of osx which is based on freebsd which is a slight variant of linux so garnet vm running on the iphone is totally possible.

tim

tk_421

Surely someone will adapt the Garnet vm for the iphone. PalmOS emulation on the iphone shouldn't take too long to be released.

And with the exact same screen resolution as the TX, it will look perfect! The iPhone2 is the TX2.

BaDZeD

Great podcast, Alan! And you don't need to worry about keeping them short, we want rants, dammit! Plus it makes one enjoyable drive to work in the morning.

As far as the handhelds bit, I was kinda expecting it. After getting my Centro, i have found myself using the TX less and less (mainly for navigation purposes now) so I kinda agree on that frame of thinking. And as for my TX, I pretty much got myself an upgrade. I am a proud owner of a EEE Pc, which incidentally has also been reported to run Garnet VM. So a combination of phone/subnotebook seems to work pretty well for me for work purposes, so I think Palm had the right idea (still upset they put the plug on the foleo).

bstryd

I, too, remember that Palm was not abandoning the PDA arena, but he might have meant they plan to support for a long time. He also could have been "flexible" with his definition and meant the Folio.

But here's the intriguing thing to me -- Apple releasing the iPod Touch. Hey - this is Apple going into PDA mode. If that market is dead, why are they doing it? Oh, yea, media players. Hmmm... back to the fact that Palms can do it all and are not known for this -- BUT -- really, iTunes is the killer app, not the iPod whatever. Its the ease and dependability of non-geektoid syncing that is the really winner here. Shoot, if Palm had just hooked the LifeDrive up with Napster-Legit, that would have been pretty slick.

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quasar

The Garnet VM appeals to me and has solidified my decision to leave my LifeDrive behind this Christmas. It's been increasingly useless to me, as I take my laptop with me everywhere, which does most of the same things. The n800 with Garnet means I would have the power of my laptop, the mobility of a PDA, and wouldn't need to find as much replacement software as I would if I found a different product to replace my LD.