bulls96

Palm is in a deep grave now...

the iPhone


http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/...ces-the-iphone/

http://www.apple.com/iphone


I don know how they can top or even compete with this. They better have a good idea of what to make this time.

This has it all.... phone, EDGE, wifi, 3.5 inch screen, either 4gig or 8gig storage (my Lifedrive now looks so ancient!), video player, and an iPod! With a sort of "mobile" Mac OSX

And only for around $500!

dsaroff

Not until the iPhone has datebk6, splashID, smartlist, wikipedia, tealphone, word, excell, powerpoint, Inspiration, megaclock, Lifedrive mode, dictionaries, encyclopedias, tomeraider, dataview, mobipocket. Frankly, a phone without hardware buttons! Dumb. I predict a big surge then a quick crash.

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Pdaman

Blah, nothing special. They are playing with technical stuff. LoL!

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LupeValenz

And that technical stuff looks mighty sweet

_Em

datebk6: iCal
splashID: Unknown
smartlist: Unknown
wikipedia: wikipedia
tealphone: iPhone
word: Unkown (Word maybe? it's OS X after all...)
excell: see word
powerpoint: see above, plus keynote
Inspiration: Unknown
Megaclock: c'mon! The thing runs widgets etc! Megaclock does not measure up.
Lifedrive mode: iPod mode
dictionaries: dictionaries (comes with aspell or ispell built in; can't remember which. This adds live spellchecking to all apps on the iPhone)
encyclopedias: web browser (see wikipedia for instance)
tomeraider: um... I'd say iSilo or PalmFiction or Plucker... but anyway: I'm interested in this one. I guess I could make a tomeraider-like widget....
dataview: Unknown
mobipocket: see tomeraider.

See, the neat thing here is that if Apple does open up development, a LOT of stuff that runs on OS X can be ported to the iPhone by simply changing the target in XCode and making sure your app works in 320x480 or 480x320. All the extra UI features like inline spellchecking, window zooming, etc. will be automatically inherited, as they are by cocoa apps on OS X. I'm also curious to see whether the phone supports apple events; considering Steve showed how he could listen to music, talk on the phone, receive an instant message and send a photo by email all at the same time, I'm guessing it does. This means that you can borrow features of apps running on the iPhone in other apps you compile for it.

I'd say this definitely kills the Lifedrive; I think the 680 and TX still have some life as lower end devices than the iPhone, however.

Regarding the "no hardbuttons":
the iPhone also doesn't have a traditional touchscreen. I say: good riddance to both. I've wanted an interface like the iPhone has for YEARS. Something that lets you use multiple fingers, and responds correctly to touch. Of course, I hope they make the surface out of something that doesn't crack/scratch.... oh, and you can say goodbye to touchtyping on the keypad. You won't be able to feel the buttons anymore. I'm sure Apple has found a way around that however (audible feedback, etc.).

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archangel

The big question is third party software. If we get a big push for software development and all the Palm programs I use are replicated on this device there will be no reason to continue with the Palm OS. I've wanted to leave ever since the death of the Clie and this is the first device that offers that possibility. I need my Mobipocket and eReader though. Considering both already have Mac versions you would think making iPhone version will be a breeze.

If the software is there you will see a ton of Windows Mobile and Palm users jumping ship.

Why would I stick with the bulky, lag ridden, unstable LifeDrive when this device is an option and if it can offer similar PDA funtion. 4GBs on a microdrive or 8GBs of flash. Hmm.

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Joel

The iPhone is an iPod (audio and video). It's also a Mac "lite" (Safari, iCal, iChat, Mail, iSync, widgets). No Palm device can do what an iPhone does. There's no full word, excel, powerpoint support for this but I've tried working with "office" products with my PalmOS devices and I've *always* ended up looking for a lap/desk top.

The iPhone fits my needs and I call it "genius."

Joel

That'll be widgets. I believe development for these interesting little add-ons will skyrocket.

Dekaritae

It was mentioned during the keynote that the iPhone is first-party applications only. So, no apps that haven't been approved by Apple.

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bulls96

Nice point on 3rd party applications...

Thats gonna be Palm's last straw to survival... the fact that its an open source free for others to develop software...

i dont think the iPhone will do that... ipods never had 3rd party apps, i dont see why the iPhone would be any different... i think its part of the identity of apple products, their exclusivity to Apple... thus its more stable and reliable... and they make money out of it because consumers can only put Apple things into Apple products...

I wonder what Palm's next move is... I can definitely see them making the Lifedrive as small and thin as that (given Flash drives)... then include a separate headpiece or something to communicate with the LD as a phone...

Then again, will the rumored Palm OS2 ever integrate a phone and wifi in a single device?

_Em

Actually, you make a few good points... the iPhone might actually be Palm's salvation. Apple has forced Cingular to sell a phone that has 802.11 as well as EDGE... this might make getting T-Mobile etc. to allow Palm to do the same, so they can compete with Cingular. And then... the other carriers can advertise the Palm's customizability as a selling point -- something that might not be there on the iPhone. Then again, Palm pushing this selling point might convince Apple to open up the iPhone to third parties.

I wish it had SDIO.

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GadgetGuru05

pdaman, you scare me a little bit... i am worried for you... lol
I thought as a Palm user you were a progressive and open minded geek.. ;-)
commeon, give up, just admit and say it LOUD... I WANT THIS SEXY HOOCHIPOOCHIE SO BAD....

I am sure that deep inside, you want to touch and caress it and feel loved and in love again...lol

Try heaven, You can always go back to hell...lol

ps,
i read on back of a car "Try jesus, you can always go back to devil." i was laughing my *** off for a week...

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bulls96

That's the spell Apple's iPods and Macs have on all of us...

We know in terms of utility there are a lot better products out there... but the truth is we and all of the world just want one because its the COOLEST gadget in town... and when we are caught with some OTHER product, the reaction would be "its not an iPod"

do you notice how many times Jobs and the others said "cool" and "awesome" in their keynote? they know thats their selling point

GadgetGuru05

"cool", "awesome" are typical american words that replace everything else, even if is not the right word. actually they are not use as a word, but as a reaction SOUND. like uhhhhh, wowwwww, shushhhhhh etc...

yes, they know how to drive you crazy and sell. Thats U.S. money talk my friend.

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