Vampire Lestat

hmm so the day Access sells a handheld...

Palm Inc is to Access Co what Sony was to Palm Inc.
Then Sony abandoned Palm OS, went on to make its own OS and then disappeared into handheld oblivion. Would that happen to Palm Inc?

Access Co will never announce they are selling a mobile device until negotiations with Palm Inc for ALP are over and papers are signed; or will they?

Someone should contact Access and see if they have pondered the idea of selling their own hardware.

lajandy

I can't believe you guys are confused about Palm's numbering scheme for Treos:

6xx = 2/2.5G devices (EDGE for GSM, whatever for CDMA)
7xx = 3G devices (EV-DO for CDMA, UMTS for GSM)

Now, the lettering scheme is a different story. Until the 750v, the letters denoted the OS, but with the 750v they seem to be switching to a more Blackberry-like scheme, where the letter denote the carrier the device is customized for (which one of you suggested, I think).

Given all that, everyone needs to realize that there won't be a Palm OS-powered 750v (or at least, a UMTS one). In order to comply with 3G GSM specs, a device needs to be able to hold open data and voice links simultaneously, and apparently Palm OS's multitasking is too weak to do that.

mrp123

Haven't listened to the podcast yet, but...
Your comment about weak multitasking seems reminiscent of the Ptunes skips on NVFS devices. (/Sigh/) Why, Palm? Why?

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ewah

I couldn't even listen to the entire podcast. It makes me sick that palm is now just another windows mobile device maker. I don't care if they "got it right". Palm in my world is now a one pony cell phone provider with an above average interface. Not at all what I want or need.

Vampire Lestat

Thank you.

FYI I could only get through 50% of the podcast as well. The embracing of the WM invasion was sickening at one point. Also, the audio was back to being horrible again. What happened to the MacIntosh fixing the problem?
I wanted to hear more of Tyler Faux's new corporate friendly and now "so mature" à la Bill Gates talk.

But to be fair guys, if I listened it is because Alan Grassia is a good podcaster.


UPDATE:
Just listened to the last 50% of the podcast. Got better because they talked more about handhelds and Palm OS.

JAmerican

LMAO! You guys are really funny. In my opinion, I've given up on Palm OS since the implementation of NVFS. Yes, I got a TX but that was to test out NVFS and get a new device. Now, I may get a 680 or I may get a 750. I just want something that works. If NVFS makes my life difficult, I'm gonna try something else. Give it up. Why are we so dedicated to one OS. You never experience new things if you stay on one OS. I wouldn't have learned about Expose if I got a Windows laptop. I wouldn't know how fast Mac OS X runs on a typically slow laptop if I got a Windows laptop. I wouldn't love Mac OS as much as Windows if I didn't try it. Break the boundary and give it a try.

BTW, 750 is coming to Cingular...

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/...0-for-cingular/

DualCor handheld supports Windows Mobile and Windows XP. LOL. They fully support it I would think.

TC was at one point more expensive then the newest handheld. It was $400 when the newest handheld was like $350. LOL. Don't know why Palm kept it so high for so long. TC is the most powerful because it had no NVFS. TC2 will have NVFS which essentially will kill it. It wouldn't be a successor.

JA

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blues

To all you guys who have given up on the Palm OS, why are you still here? Vamp actually told us he was leaving months ago. Well go then! Do you guys actually listen to the podcast? Palm OS is very much alive.

I'm so glad that the people who actually have the resources to successfully put the podcast out have a positive additude. I guess there wouldn't be a podcast, or a forum filled with people like JA with over 5000 posts, if Palm was really on the out.

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Alan G

Embarcing...wait a minute! Didn't you get a new PocketPC from HP? Let's take a look at the thread for the 1SRC Editorial: Size Does Matter...



Ya, I guess you did. And didn't you tell me to start a Windows Mobile podcast? Let's take a look at the thread for 1SRC Podcast 97...



Interesting. If you dislike Palm so much and went and got a PPC it must be really hard for you to use it because of the love-hate relationship you have with it. And I would have thought that you would have listened to entire podcast. Hmmm.

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ewah

I'm not sure about Vamp, but I still listen because I'm hoping to here of a big turn around. I still have my lifedrive but I'm trying out the Nokia 770. I'm sorry if I come off as a "wing nut" I'm just not sure how to get through to everyone. I just can't believe that everyone is so happy that all palm is doing are treo's and WM phones. I mean in the end why does everyone care about Palm, if they don't make a current product that we can use they fall into the who cares, next please category. So let me ask everyone who is pro palm. If Palm never again makes anything but a cell phone is that ok?

Jimmie Geddes

We discussed what's going on with Palm. We talked about Palm OS and Windows Mobile. Palm is releasing devices with both OS's on them, that's what's happening. If you're not happy with the current state you've got choices, the good thing about Palm is they are releasing devices with choices. Some people prefer Palm OS, some people prefer Windows Mobile. millions prefer Treos. It's a no brainer sell Treos with both OS's on them to please all. Seems no matter what you do, you never please everyone as evidenced in this forum.

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ewah

It's not that palm is making a WM device, it's that they are not making a non cell phone device. Palm users don't have choices, It's a treo or nothing, it's cingular or verizon, or sprint lockin. Palm use to be about choices, many units for different types of users. If they had just started coming out with WM devices but still upgraded the TX or Zire, or Lifedrive line I would have cared less about that, than I do about them only offering cell phones. I mean I don't listen to a weekly podcast about nokia/motorola/samsung/etc because cell phones just aren't that exciting to me. It is just frustrating watching another company (in my opinion) drift off into an also ran category of products. As for listening to the podcast, I enjoy hearing about the new palm events but when it is week after week of "hey look another treo from yet another wireless carrier" that I still don't want I just get bored with it. If you really want to talk about cell phones then start talking about the treo vs the Q like alan did a couple of months ago, or have some opposing or different opinions, just to hear week after week of treo love is just not good listening.

holvoetn

Who says they are not ?
I know, they are not saying either they are ...

There is a thread at BrightHand (see here) where Ed Hardy sheds a light on the fact Palm might actually be working on something non-cell-phone like ...

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Jimmie Geddes

The market is moving to smartphones, there is a small minority that wants a stand alone PDA. Palm still has more PDA's on the market than it's competitors.

When we're talking about Treos we're not talking about "cell phones", you can't compare them to nokia, samsung, motorola cell phones, they're just not in the same category, bad comparison.

As Ed Hardy wrote this week, Palm is expected to be releasing PDA's, not just Treos.

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ewah

I agree that the world seems gaga over cell phones right now. But if a treo isn't a cell phone what is it? a smart phone, exactly what does that mean? I think we will have to agree to disagree on the whole smart phone/cell phone discussion it is a personal choice and everyone gets their's. Here are a couple of reasons why I will probably never have a smart phone.

1. Cycling - I use my cell phone when I go on 100+ mile cycling rides. the last thing I need is my entire life bouncing onto the pavement at mile 43.

2. Easy Sharing - With my cheapy cell phone I don't mind letting someone use it, borrow it or quite frankly if someone steals my $50 cell phone I just get a new one. I don't have to worry about what information is in there. No lost data problems here.

3. It's smaller - enough said

4. Two screens mean twice as much work gets done.

5. Does anyone really need more than that!

As to the news that palm is still making or might be making a new PDA I say hooray! and bring it on. I will say that I have been enjoying my nokia 770, the web browsing, the email client, the music players and video players all work very well, it is a wide screen format which I thought at first I wouldn't like but have gotten use to.

I'm glad palm is enjoying its new glory I really am, I hope they survive. BTW where is my slingbox client for my palm based unit!!!