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08-07-2006, 12:19 AM	#1
xbaez Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	Palm TX vs LifeDrive vs. Dell Axim 51V If you could receive any of these palms for free (really, don't think in the spending to vote for your favorite), which one will you prefer? 1) Palm TX with 4 GB SD card 2) Palm LifeDrive 3) Dell Axim 51 V with 4 GB SD card (keep in mind you could add an 4, or 8 GB Compact Flash as well) I've used the LifeDrive and the infrared problem is getting me on my nerves. I have to backup my whole memory a lot of times, and my unit resets every week or so (then I lose the infrared, which forces me to do a hard reset, and install the latest backup) I've tried the Dell Axim 51V with 16 MB of graphic accelerator and it seems a very nice unit. However I don't like the 'windows based' OS that much (viruses, firewalls, more costs in security..). ANyway, it seems like a better option than my current LifeDrive. I appreciate your thoughts. I've heard the TX is like the LifeDrive, but stable.

08-07-2006, 12:45 AM	#2
timepilot84 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland Posts: 171	I'd take the TX with the memory card. Heck, I'd take the TX without the memory card. I've been using an X51v for several months, and I had an X50v for year before that. Windows Mobile is a lousy platform. It makes really fast hardware slow to a crawl. The Palm devices are much more responsive and the networking works a whole lot better. I have both a LifeDrive and a TX. The LifeDrive I like, but it has pretty bad battery life (for a Palm device). It's still better than the Axim X51v, but it doesn't have swappable batteries. It's not that big of a deal unless you're flying somewhere on an airline that doesn't have DC power adapters. The TX has great battery life and is very responsive. I don't use the voice memo at all, that's one thing the LD and Axim have that the TX doesn't. Third party solutions exist if you really need it. I wanted to check out the Axim X50v/X51v because of the VGA screen. Windows Mobile doesn't really take advantage of all that screen real estate, instead it gives you a smoother looking QVGA screen that takes 4 times as long to refresh. There's a fancy graphics accelerator in the Axims but hardly any software supports it. The OS does not. If only we could run Palm OS on an Axim, that would be a sweet device, to be sure. If you have a choice, take the TX, unless you need an integrated voice recording option. Then I'd suggest the LifeDrive. People claim the lag on the LD is horrible, but I get far more lag on the Axim, with no reasonable excuse. At least the LD is running off of a hard drive, which explains the lag. If you're an adventurous soul, you can replace said hard drive with a flash card and be done with it (I'm going to do that when I get back from vacation). That gets rid of both the lag and the lousy battery life, from what I've read. __________________ Timepilot84 Apple Newton Messagepad 130 -> Palm Pilot 5000 -> Palm III -> Palm M105 -> Sony Clie 610c -> Palm Tungsten T -> Sony Clie TH55 -> P1 Tungsten T3 -> Sharp SL-6000L -> P1 Zire 31 -> P1 Tungsten T5 -> P1 LifeDrive & Dell Axim X50v-> Palm TX -> Dell Axim X51v -> Cingular 3125 -> Nokia N800 Last edited by timepilot84 : 08-07-2006 at 12:47 AM.

08-07-2006, 02:22 AM	#3
Cooley Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 22	Dell Axim 51V screen is dull. May be TX and Lifedrive have better screen.

08-07-2006, 03:51 AM	#4
deuse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17	lets put this baby into the pot http://www.4winmobile.com/1-vt2602.html now...who wants this one...mmmmmm

08-07-2006, 09:20 PM	#5
firelord901 T\|C Is the New TH Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 362	I voted x51v since i like dual slots. Like that its a newer version of BT. I also use my PDA for video/games a lot. If it was PIM i'd vote T\|X. I also like tryin different OS's. I'll be gettin a x51v for christmas. Still lookin at the T\|X and LD so this will help me as well. Don't forget that the opinions are going to bias since its a palm forum. __________________ Kevin Palm Zire 31 > Palm Zire 31(2nd) > Palm Zire 72s > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000(Christmas Present) I Am 13, I got my first PDA when I was 11 Check out my MyPDA Courtisy of AximSite Last edited by firelord901 : 08-07-2006 at 09:23 PM.

08-08-2006, 01:09 AM	#6
xbaez Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	Yeah but with LifeDrive, my infrared is lost around 1-2 times per week, I have to soft reset it, and then install a fresh new backup Apart from that the TX and the Dell X51V are much smaller The screen from the X51V is amazing! THe quality of the screen is much, much better Apart from that I do like the multitasking, this OS seems much better than Palm OS Things I don't like: Windows, insecurity Apart from that, hmm, sometimes the device is 'stuck' for no reason. Like a windows computer, I guess installing lots of programs will make the registry bigger, and make the pocket PC slower, dumber THanks for all your suggestions, please keep posting I'm undecided. Palm Support is a joke, haven't tested Dell's support.

08-08-2006, 03:54 AM	#7
christo101 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Centurion, South Africa Posts: 33	Hi there all... A question to all the modders and technically minded LD owners - would it be possible AT ALL to load Palm OS on the X51v? You need to get rid of WinMob OS, find a way to get Palm OS on there & make Palm OS boot off the X51v... And you would also need X51v hardware Palm OS drivers - for the WiFi, BT, IRda, etc, etc... And what to do w/ the Graphics chip... But I mean, the X51v is a great PDA, just a shame about the OS... And maybe get the LD d-pad & buttons onto the X51v, coz the buttons are TINY! Any takers? __________________ HS VD, M105, M505, T\|T, T3, T5, Treo 650 & LD, Treo 680 & T5, Samsung Omnia

08-08-2006, 08:17 AM

JAmerican

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Originally Posted by christo101

Hi there all...

A question to all the modders and technically minded LD owners - would it be possible AT ALL to load Palm OS on the X51v? You need to get rid of WinMob OS, find a way to get Palm OS on there & make Palm OS boot off the X51v...

And you would also need X51v hardware Palm OS drivers - for the WiFi, BT, IRda, etc, etc... And what to do w/ the Graphics chip... But I mean, the X51v is a great PDA, just a shame about the OS...

And maybe get the LD d-pad & buttons onto the X51v, coz the buttons are TINY!

Any takers?

As always, the problem is drivers. Who will wrtie the drivers that will make the USB on the Axim work in Palm OS to sync? Who will create the WiFi drivers? Etc. Also the Palm OS supports a different screen resolution than that of Windows Mobile so you would end up with a 480x320 image on a 640x480 screen.

JAmerican

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08-08-2006, 10:17 AM	#9
firelord901 T\|C Is the New TH Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 362	Theres a program called StyleTap (search google) that emulates Palm OS so you can put some palm programs on ur axim or ipaq. You'll still have windows mobile but you can use some of the palm programs. __________________ Kevin Palm Zire 31 > Palm Zire 31(2nd) > Palm Zire 72s > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000(Christmas Present) I Am 13, I got my first PDA when I was 11 Check out my MyPDA Courtisy of AximSite Last edited by firelord901 : 08-08-2006 at 10:19 AM.

08-08-2006, 11:20 AM	#10
xbaez Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	Has anybody tried StyleTap? I'll download the program right away

08-08-2006, 11:35 AM	#11
Furball Technologist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manila Posts: 88	I was just wondering, how would you know if your LifeDrive's infrared is lost every week? Are you using a wireless keyboard daily? I mean, I can't think of any other reason why I would use my LD's infrared... Ciao! __________________ "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Palm IIIc -> Sony Clie T615c -> Palm Tungsten T\|3 -> Palm LifeDrive -> Palm LifeFlash -> Palm Treo 680 -> Palm Pre, Pre 3, TouchPad Last edited by Furball : 08-08-2006 at 11:39 AM.

08-08-2006, 11:50 AM	#12
xbaez Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	If for some reason Agendus Mail, Agendus Pro, Blazer... make my LifeDrive reset, then I'm almost 100% sure that the infrared is lost Also, sometimes I hotsync my device with my computer, and I reset it I try to use InfraRed, and it's lost I do not use Wireless keyboard

08-08-2006, 01:59 PM	#13
JAmerican Why Does Palm Disappoint? Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,909	I use Wireless Keyboard so Infrared better work for me. I have a TX so I don't have the issues as the LD has. If I did, I would be even more irate about Palm products as some already know I am. JAmerican __________________ JAmerican Handspring Treo 90 --> Royal RG135nx --> T-Mobile Sidekick --> T-Mobile Sidekick Color --> PEG-UX40 -- > PEG-UX50--> Samsung T629 (Returned) -- > Palm TX (SOLD)/T-Mobile Sony Ericsson T610(Defective) --> T-Mobile Dash(Broken Screen) --> ASUS EEE 1000H Black/Treo 800w/PEG-VZ90 Accesories: Transcend 16GB SDHC \| 8GB Transcend microSD

08-09-2006, 08:19 PM	#14
firelord901 T\|C Is the New TH Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 362	Well good news i'm thinking of getting T\|X instead of x51v. Anyone know if theres gonna b a working GBA emulator soon? __________________ Kevin Palm Zire 31 > Palm Zire 31(2nd) > Palm Zire 72s > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000(Christmas Present) I Am 13, I got my first PDA when I was 11 Check out my MyPDA Courtisy of AximSite

08-09-2006, 10:56 PM	#15
xbaez Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	If the X51V and the Palm TX would cost the same, would you still buy the TX? Could you please specify me the reasons?