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06-02-2006, 02:46 AM	#16
whenever Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11	The method is officially listed on Palm's Knowledge base but said for T5 and 650 only. I haven't chance to try it yet but my friend tried it with his endless-reset T/X some months ago and it doesn't work so he had to send his T/X back to Palm for replacement.

06-02-2006, 07:15 AM	#17
tk_421 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 303	When must the three buttons be released? At the orange palm logo, or at the grey logo? Usually when performing a hard reset, they must be released at the grey logo, right? There is no mention of this on the site... I am hoping that this could help with my poor Palm TX, who is stuck at the grey screen of death.

06-02-2006, 07:29 AM	#18
DannyWSU Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 48	With as many buttons to press and things to hold, did it say anything about jumping up and down three times and turning around twice (don't forget to not get caught up in the cable)? Sheesh... __________________ Palm IIIx -> Sony Clie T615 -> Sony Clie T665 -> Palm Tungsten C -> TX

06-02-2006, 08:18 AM	#19
Tam Hanna Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,853	If you ask me, this has st6h to do with the Flash file system. writing to flash is a slow and annoying work, so the handheld erases only the "allocation table" when beeing hard resetted, just likme a MS DOS Pc does when deleting a file(Undelete 0wn3d many people back then). Anyways, this is just a WAG... __________________ http://www.palmfilefind.com - find files on your memory card Visit my blog at http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com to learn more about the PalmOS platform! TamsPPC-the PocketPC Blog TamsS60

06-02-2006, 08:49 AM	#20
Ou_Boet Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 158	The Zero Out reset is for devices with NVF ram if I remember correctly. OB

06-02-2006, 11:31 AM	#21
javispedro Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Barcelona Posts: 134	But I think it does not fix most of eternal reset loops.. __________________ m130 -> T\|X (died) -> T\|X (died) -> N810

06-02-2006, 06:20 PM	#22
Zano2004 Palm Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 795	Here are the official resets. http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/...bj(887)#zeroout) The "Zero Out Reset" seems to work on the Tx. __________________ Palm V, Vx, 505, 515, Sony NX70, Palm TC, T3,T5, Treo 650 & 680, Palm TX "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" - Thomas Jefferson

06-02-2006, 09:56 PM	#23
bh77a Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in the world... Posts: 1,384	From Palm's docs, this is to write zeros to the internal flash disk, making it a totally secure reset, in the case of disposal, selling, etc. __________________ _________________________ Thanks, bh CLIE TJ27, Tungsten E(1), TX, CLIE TH55/U

06-03-2006, 09:44 AM	#24
Zano2004 Palm Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 795	and it was the only way to stop an endless reset loop. __________________ Palm V, Vx, 505, 515, Sony NX70, Palm TC, T3,T5, Treo 650 & 680, Palm TX "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Zano2004 : 06-03-2006 at 09:48 AM.

06-06-2006, 02:45 PM	#25
IVide Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4	Help I had my TX for under two weeks loaded plenty of software, had to do plenty of hard resets due to software/OS conflicts, but now after a last hot sink and a crash and a second hot sink and crash, it does'nt want to leave the Palm Powered screen. I tried a hard reset, nothing; tried, the zero-out reset as on the Palm site and here, nothing. I liked it when it worked, but this is not a good start! My suspicion is that a hard reset does not clear enough to remove any hack hooks, so the OS hangs on startup. I'll be sending it to Palm for repair very soon if I can't get it working within a day. If I can't get a stable enough TX I'll probably look at one of the Linux PDAs, given I want to avoid Microsoft based PDAs, if possible. Can anyone help?

06-06-2006, 04:54 PM	#26
Zano2004 Palm Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 795	Well, try another zero-out reset and another. __________________ Palm V, Vx, 505, 515, Sony NX70, Palm TC, T3,T5, Treo 650 & 680, Palm TX "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" - Thomas Jefferson

06-06-2006, 05:41 PM

#27

IVide

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zano2004

Well, try another zero-out reset and another.

I lost count of the number of the same and variants of Zero-out reset I tried, I think the zero-out reset must be a myth for the TX, the official Palm site does not say it works on the TX and I can't get it to work. The best I can get is a black screen and no restart, normal/hard reset just gets it stuck on Palm Powered screen again!

I've messed around for four days now trying to get my TX working, enough, the TX is getting sent to Palm for repair. I will ask them to tell me what the fault was so that I can avoid a repeat if possible.

Thanks,

Fed up.

ps. Palm make nice PDAs, while they run, however the poor recovery and crashes suck, there is no acceptable Palm excuse for this! My next PDA will run Linux, not Palm OS, or any Microsoft junk; the Archos ones look tempting (but thick), but the Sharp stuff is too pricey.

06-06-2006, 06:18 PM

#28

Zano2004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IVide

I feel your pain. Been there and done that. I'm sure I must have done a dozen resets of one type or another until I regained control of my TX. This is the reason I removed all memory fixes and several utility type applications to preven this from happening again. A utility or two may have caused resets, but those memory "fixes" are real dangerous.

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06-06-2006, 06:23 PM	#29
Greek Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 723	Or you could wait until the battery runs out of energy. If you get a replacement, be aware that restoring can bring you to the same state. Good luck! Regards, __________________ Greek

06-06-2006, 06:40 PM	#30
_Em Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Igloo Posts: 2,378	Draining the battery does nothing for this kind of crash; because we're dealing with NV RAM, when you power back up, the boot code is still in the same garbled state as before. However, having experienced a device that wouldn't pass the "erasing NVRAM" portion of bootup, I decided to try the full reset on my new TX yesterday; the first time I tried it one of my fingers slipped, and I ended up with a flashing bar at the top of the screen. I tried it again, and the device went black, and stayed that way for around a minute. After that, the orange logo came up, then things continued as if I had done a hard reset. However, the time was still set correctly when I finally got it up and running. Not sure what that means. __________________ My Palm family: Palm T\|X ~ Palm T\|E ~ m130 ~ m125 ~ POSE