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Old 04-11-2003, 01:24 PM   #1
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Attn: New WiFi WL100 Users

There is a mountion of threads on almost every WLAN conceivable setup. Much has been written. The new Sony WL100 driver may help considerably.

Some helpful links:

Sony's Mobile Connection Wizard:

http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/bin/sup...ST_MCW104US.EXE

Sony support and WL100 Driver:

http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/

WiFi HotSync settings and setup:

There is an error in the web page below, it should be LANSync, not Local HotSync.

http://www.otakunozoku.com/wifihotsync/

Sony WiFi Support Page:

http://ciscweb.sel.sony.com/tpm/media/pegs1420.shtml 

Hot Spot Info Links:

http://www.wi-fizone.org/zoneLocator.asp?TID=7 

http://www.80211-planet.com/

http://www.wififreespot.com/ 

ClieSource Links Currently Broken:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/se...rder=descending

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/se...rder=descending

This should keep one busy for awhile... Enjoy ! 

 
If DHCP and Auto Settings don't work, please see below.

Router: 

DHCP
Long Preamble  The latest WL100 driver will handle Short Preamble too.
Network Shared
AP Mode = Access Point

In the Clie: 
 
SSID = is case sensitive.

WEP KEY = HEX key only, Hex entered manually, especially with Linksys! ! !
(found that on the Linksys site) No Paraphrase, use Hex Key settings from router.

Infrastructure Mode


Under Advanced setup: 

Clie = all settings manual, especially with Linksys! ! !
(IP, Subnet mask, Gateway, DNS, and PowerSaveMode unchecked)

This is for a straight Cable Modem Setup and using Windows XP.

There are many variations, depending on internet connection type (DSL, Cable, Dialup), your Internet Service Provider, and the desktop computer operating system. The Gateway and DNS addressing is connection type specific. Running 54G requires mixed mode operation. Always check for the latest firmware download. Dial-up's may require bridging or ICS.

For Windows XP ICF Firewall, use service port 14238 for WiFi HotSync.

Have you used Sony's network wizard and have you installed the latest WL100 driver?

Below was authored by mjhamilton

can you do the following 2 things after opening 'Prefs' then 'Network' and hit connect.

1 - Pull Down menu, 'Options/Log'... type ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's represent the IP address of your router/gateway. Then hit return on the keypad (not done)... you should now see some text go by... does the IP address respond?.. if not then there may be an issue with WEP security or DHCP from your gateway!!.... one point to note.. if you are using WEP security on a Netgear router you have the chance to use 1 of 4 keys... the CLIE will only work if you choose key 1!!

2 - if the above works then we need to test for DNS resolution. Go through the same process but this time select you favorite website name instead of IP address.. ie type 'ping www.yahoo.com/ and hit the return key on the keypad. Do you get a response??... if not then you will need to enter you DNS addresses manually into the CLIE WLAN setup.

Try these and let us know how you get on.... if they don't work then the next step will be to setup manual IP settings.... don't be fooled by the line that 'Connecting Wireless' when you hit the connect button, this will say connected even if the WEP key is wrong.....

Unfortunately the WLAN driver is very basic and a pain to troubleshoot

Example of a typical DSL setup:

LAN: (network side of router)
IP address: 192.168.2.1
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP Server: Enabled

WAN: (modem side of router)
IP address: 192.168.1.2 (this address was assigned to the router by the DSL modem)
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1 (this is the modem address)
DNS: 192.168.1.1
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The router should assign IP addresses as follows:
192.168.2.1 (router)
192.168.2.2 (first device address requested)
192.168.2.3 (second device address requested)
192.168.2.4 (third device address requested)
192.168.2.5 (forth device address requested)
and so on....

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Hubs are just basically repeaters. Any packet that comes in from one connection (port) is just repeated out all of the other connections. This wastes bandwidth, but is very cheap and needs no configuration. They just work.

Switches are "smart" hubs. They know what machines are connected to each connection. That way, when a packet comes in on one connection, it's only forwarded to the connection that leads to the machine the packet is destined for. This means that the switch must inspect every packet as it comes in, decode the destination address, and then forward it to the correct port. This means that switches have processors in them.

Routers "route" packets between two networks. It's like a switch in that the packet is only forwarded to the correct connection, but it also allows connecting two different networks.

What you want whenever you connect a home network to the Internet (via a cable modem, for example) is a router. The Internet is one network, and your home network is also a network. You'd like them to not get mixed together.

This has several advantages:

1) You can connect several PCs through one connection (share), without having to leave a PC on.

2) The router will provide a measure of protection from nasties on the Internet. The only device easily visible from the Internet side is your router.
3) Traffic from one of your machine to another of your machines will not be visible outside your network. It will stay within your local network. This is a major feature of routers.

In your case, I would suggest you replace your current hub with the Linksys device you asked about. The cable modem will plug into the "WAN" port, and your other machines will plug into the LAN ports, instead of into your current hub.

FYI: You can "daisy-chain" switches together if you need more than the four connections that the Linksys device provides. You can even use your current hub if necessary.

The only tricky thing might be that the location of your current hub might turn out to be a poor location for a wireless access point. You might end up with "dead" spots in your house if this new Linksys device ended up not being centrally location.

I believe that this will solve your problem, and your ISP will not have any way of knowing you have multiple computers attached.

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Old 04-11-2003, 04:43 PM   #2
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Thanks for the resources. I'm still debating on buying the WL100 or not (I missed the BB madness!). If I do, I'm coming back to this post for sure.
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Old 04-11-2003, 05:26 PM   #3
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Thanks for the post! Ultra-informative!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-11-2003, 05:35 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info. I just bought a WL-100 and haven't had the chance to use it yet. Can you explain what's the use for the Connection Wizard which I didn't quite get ?
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Old 04-11-2003, 07:55 PM   #5
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It helps set things up, plus it includes the updater dirver for the Clie.
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Old 04-11-2003, 08:44 PM   #6
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n2ifp, you think of everything! Even though I already know all this info, I still appreciate you listing it! If nothing else, it might keep newbies from reposting the same questions! (not that I mind, but it save on the extra threads.) Thanks!
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This topic should be pinned. I had a friend pick up the card for me, it may be a few days before I can get it... Thanks, n2flip!
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:58 PM   #8
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I agree with you; this is a great resource. I copied the thread to the wireless forum, and it's now pinned.
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Old 04-11-2003, 10:39 PM   #9
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thanks....

Larry, you're the best. Thanks for all your effort.
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Help - can't send email.

n21ifp, thanks for all the info you posted, however in initial seach I could not resolve my email problem. I'm a new vl100 owner after bought at BB sale.

I went to my local library, was was able to browse the internet find and also receive email. The probelm was with sending the email out. I tried with two differnt accounts using different smtp servers.

my email app of choise is Snapper mail, fortunitally it gives me communication log, here is relevant part of what shows up.
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SMTP Rcpt To:command failed:550
relaying to
<someoneseaddress@anything.com>
Prohibited by administrator
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Any ideas, I asked at the library and could not get much help, I have since called their hosting company and they gave me their smtp server address. Does anyone thing that will work (I'll know soon enough) and is that something that should be necessary? I thought all I should need from them was the SSID.

Thanks, dfg
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Old 04-12-2003, 11:58 AM   #11
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Some details I forgot:

When I used exact same settings and instead put in BT memory stick and dialed up my ISP using cell phone the emails went through fine.

Back with the WIFI I also tried using cliemail instead of snapper and it did not go through.

Based on this info I'm assuming it just a settings problem on my part or some sort of limitation of this hotspot (vs. being a hardware or software issues)
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You have to know the SMTP account to send. There might be other work arounds using sort of a proxy, but you will have to search for it in the forum.&nbsp;

Most ISP's close it down and limit to the one default SMTP account to help prevent spam.

Use the SMTP address they gave you.

As you found out, receive is usually not a problem.

Enjoy!
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this is great- a page with all the links one needed to setup his wifi card properly - thanks a lot n2ifp!
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I expect the easy work around if I need to send and can't find the SMTP info woudl be to send from website like mail2web.com that works with I think most pop systems. And so I have a copy of it I can blind copy myself.

I have even setup a dummy email account named handheld@mydomain.com. When I send from my clie useing email client I still blind copy this as I never sync the email with computer.

I use snapper mail, to me the big selling point over clie mail is the ability to fetch only part of a message and then go back and get the rest if you want. When I'm using my BT in particular this stops one big email from stopping me from getting the rest of the emails.
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Re: Attn: New WiFi WL100 Users

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There is a mountion of threads on almost every WLAN conceivable setup. Much has been written. The new Sony WL100 driver may help considerably.

Some helpful links: ......SNIP.......


Hey Larry,

Thanks for the great links on setting up the Sony WL100, they were extremely helpful. Setting up the Lan card to work with my Linksys wireless router was a breeze. I initially only made one mistake with my SSID: when I forgot that the address was case sensitive..............DOH!!!!

I looked at that for at least 10 minutes before I noticed the problem. I thought the hotsync lan setup was unnecessarily complex. It would have taken me days to figure that out without your infomation, instead it took me about 15 minutes, Thanks Larry.

This site has been a great resource in the short time&nbsp; I've been using it.

A couple of observations, the pocket pc wireless lan setup using a Dell Axim X5 and a linksysWCF12 was a magnitude less complex than on the palm, with no instructions (didn't bother to read the instructions in the box.)&nbsp;I was able to install the software, plug in the card, run a sniffer application that came with the wifi card that searched out my network and auto configured the software, less than 5 minutes for the whole thing. Also we need a landscape mode browser for the NX similar to Thunderhawk on the PPC.

http://www.bitstream.com/wireless/

On the plus side.........Browsing on the Clie NX is considerably faster than on my PPC using either Thunderhawk, or IE.

Again Larry, Thanks!
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