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11-04-2005, 04:57 PM
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#1 | | Genie's Decision Maker
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| External processor,.... Do we have external processors like external HD for sale in the market?
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11-04-2005, 10:09 PM
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#2 | | iPods suck
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| No, unfortunately we do not (or if we do, they are very sidestream). |
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11-04-2005, 11:00 PM
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#3 | | Need coffee. Need coffee. Platinum Contributor
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| there are internal (PCI slot operated) co-processors, but they are specialized and expensive... sorry.
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11-05-2005, 04:07 AM
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#4 | | Registered User
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| I heard of a Physics card for PC's...
Anyways, those cards usually are DSP/Special purpose processors! |
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11-05-2005, 09:08 AM
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#5 | | Registered User
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| just get rid of the case.  |
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11-05-2005, 11:25 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Tam Hanna I heard of a Physics card for PC's...
Anyways, those cards usually are DSP/Special purpose processors! |
there "will be" a physics card soon, there are are also specialized streaming vector and math processing boards, as well as sound, video and other specialized boards. But none work "automatically" they all require special applications to forward information to them, and then read it back.
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11-06-2005, 05:08 AM
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#7 | | Registered User
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| Yeah, the old graphics card and DSP problem:
You need adapted software...
BTW, didnt the company announce its acelerator chip quite some time ago? |
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11-06-2005, 07:31 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Tam Hanna Yeah, the old graphics card and DSP problem:
You need adapted software...
BTW, didnt the company announce its acelerator chip quite some time ago? |
yeah, and original plans were for a Christmas release.... it is unclear if they will make that. The statement was they are waiting for an appropriate number of software that uses the chip.
They released a physics programming API, the right way to do this BTW, that uses the CPU if no physics card is found, and if the physics card is found it automatically transfers the processing to the chip. I gather some of the current games will already recognize and use the physics card, they have not said which or how many. And they are still hedging away from a Christmas release. Soon is all they will say.
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11-07-2005, 02:48 AM
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#9 | | Barbarian Artist
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| This is rumor, but the new Revolution will supposedly have a PPU next year.
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11-07-2005, 08:58 PM
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#10 | | Need coffee. Need coffee. Platinum Contributor
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| I would not be surprised.... any business can order a sample PPU for testing and development, so they do exist.... all the news from aegia said they were only waiting until there was enough support to help users feel it was benefitial when they got the PPU.
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11-08-2005, 01:53 AM
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#11 | | Barbarian Artist
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| I'm suprised that the other consoles didn't include one, because if Nintendo actually did, it will provide a substantial boost for many of these modern frag games. bleh.
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11-08-2005, 06:59 PM
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#12 | | Genie's Decision Maker
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| Thanks to all ... Hope it comes out soon....
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11-09-2005, 12:00 PM
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#13 | | Well Said! -->
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| Wouldn't the transfer rate like...suck?
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11-09-2005, 02:58 PM
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#14 | | Registered User
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| erm, why? You send data which can be very small(equasions, matrices) anmd have the result while the CPU does sth totally different. It requires a bit of thinking while programming, but can greatly help.
I can remember how programmers for the PIC Microcontroller were feasting when they finally got a multiplier unit-that took xy cycles or so to work(xy big), but left the CPU free... |
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11-10-2005, 07:28 PM
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#15 | | Need coffee. Need coffee. Platinum Contributor
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by hucsman Wouldn't the transfer rate like...suck? |
Well, you are able to run graphics on a PCI board... I guess all things are relative. One reason I got a dual PCI-ex board was that there were rumors of PCI/PCIX and PCIex boards as coprocessors.
However if you look at the API for the physics processor, you realize why it works. It uses asynchronous logic.
Normally when you code physics it would be like this:
do_something()
Calc_something()
process_results()
draw_something()
with the PPU external processor it turns into:
do_something()
submit_calculation()
do_somethingelse()
request results()
draw_something
or you switch to a frame early scenerio:
request_results(lastframe)
draw_somethign(lastframe)
do_something(thisframe)
submit_calculation(thisframe)
do_somethingelse(thisframe)
get_new_frame(); // lastframe=thisframe; thisframe=getnewframe();
so your waiting for results after submitting them. this is the same as a multithreaded dual core model, except that it is waiting on an external unit.
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