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Old 03-14-2004, 12:35 PM   #1
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Hotsync Cable Pinouts/ Future N.E.S. Joypad Adapter

Hi Ya'll,

I'm wondering if anyone might have some schematics, regarding the GC10 joypad, and possibly how it interfaces through the software for the OS5 devices.

The sony pad looks cool, but I'd much rather have a real NES controller for emulation.

I just don't like the GC10's joypad, and was wondering if there would be any interest in this, besides mine of course.

If you can help with the info, and interface things, please PM me.

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Old 03-14-2004, 01:26 PM   #2
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Are you planning on adapting a actual nes joypad for use with you clie? that would be pretty chill, although probably not worth all the extra cost involved.
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Old 03-14-2004, 03:13 PM   #3
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Yeah, you got it. ^_^

NES Joypad on one end, and Clie' hotsync cable on the other. Seems to me it would enhance the gameplay on the clie', AND since Sony dosent make one that fits a TJ35, I decided that I'd be happier with the ol' everreliable NES. Joypad. ^_^

I have over 20 yrs. exp doing electronics repair, etching custom pc boards, things like that, so I REALLY want to make 1 at least for me. lol. And if someone else wants one too, when it's all done the schmatics, and stuff should be free. That's what makes a lot of the greatest things great. ^_^ FREE! lol

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Old 03-14-2004, 03:31 PM   #4
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Best way might be to wire the NES buttons onto the guts of the GC10...
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Old 03-14-2004, 03:52 PM   #5
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I agree!

Or, (reverse engineer) to make a pcb of the clie gc10, and refab it to a (small form factor) type of dongle, and then wire that to an nes plug-in port. ^_^ Using the Sony software, it would be interpreting it as the gc-10 , and fairly easy to do, as well. mwhahahaha, I'm gonna buy a gc10, and gut it.

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Old 03-15-2004, 11:06 AM   #6
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Great idea! .... however.....

Great idea, I would definately buy. But, why not try an SNES controler instead. Esp. for the purpose of emulation. PDA's are getting more and more powerful that we will soon see SNES and Genesis emulators for Palm. Just a thought.
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I would be very interested in getting one. I don't have the knowledge to make one myself though. This sounds like a great idea.

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Old 03-15-2004, 03:54 PM   #8
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That's a really good idea, Ninjis.

Possibly a breakout box/hotsync cable, allowing the user to plug in whatever controller that they want to use.

(NES, SNES, Genesis)

Let's break it down a bit...

Standard Nintendo NES Controller ($0.99 Gamestop)

The NES controller has 8 buttons.

(Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, Start, and Select)

The GC10 has Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, X, Y, and I think a hold switch. lol, I don't have a gc10 yet. If there are more buttons on one of these, let me know. ^_^

So NES, is definitely workable. ^_^

Standard Sega Genesis Controller (db-9)(3 btn) ($0.99 Gamestop)

The STANDARD Genesis controller has 8 buttons...

(Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, C, and Start)

So, it's do-able as well. ^_^

The 6-button controller would probably be unusable, except as a 3 button, (the default setting) allowing all 6 buttons to work would require detailed information on what happens inside the Genesis, AND inside the software after you push the "Mode" button on one of these. Work on the 6-button could possibly lead to the....

Standard Nintendo SNES Controller ($5.99 Gamestop !OUCH!)

The standard SNES controller has...

(Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, X, Y, L, R, Select, and Start)

This monster has 12 buttons, 4 more than either the Genesis, or the NES.

Now it gets funky.....

The standard Sony Clie GC10 drivers should be able to work very well with NES, or GENESIS Controllers.

Now, the interface for a SNES controller is definatley possible, BUT the software required to read those 12 buttons is probably above the Stock Clie GC10 software's "comprehension".
(I'd almost bet on it. ^_^)

So, in order for the SNES to FULLY work, it'll take a Palm OS programmer, to write the code for the interface. ^_^

(Big plus if this happens, NO SONY SOFTWARE REQUIRED )

So that's where we stand, the NES, and Genesis controllers shouldn't be a problem @ all.

The SNES Controller will require software beyond what the GC10 drivers can (Currently) do.

To sum it up. ^_^

Order of difficulty to successfully pull off.

(10=Easy | 1=Not impossible, but OMG!!!)

NES=10
Genesis=10
SNES=4
Genesis 6 button=1

AND this isn't counting diagnols, which may require more software, depending on if the GC10 can recognize 2 directional buttons being pressed at the same time.

Whew, lol.

I'm personally hyped up about the idea of playing Zelda, and CastleVania2 with an NES Dogbone. When Genesis emulation on the palm OS gets there, then this device will be ready for it.

Thoughts, Idea, Suggestions, and Whims are welcomed. ^_^

Keep 'em coming. ^_^

Thanks!

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I would talk to Igor_N after all the work he's done getting a belkins driver to work, Me thinks a snes driver would be easy, (and something I would prefer)
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Thanks rsavage,

I'll see what transpires. looking at a gc10 on ebay right now. ^_^

Thanks!

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Old 03-15-2004, 11:58 PM   #11
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I won the gc10 off of eBay, so now it's only a matter of time. ^_^
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how much did you get the gc10 for? I've been looking for 1, but I went for the A.R.M. screen protector instead of getting a gc10, I already have belkins screen protectors, but I hate those passionately. I'll wait till next paycheck.
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$16.51 plus shipping. ^_^

I want one of the arm screen protectors, lol BAD! How do you like yours? ^_^
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Just ordered it, I hope it works out, sinse it cost me so much, if it scratches up quickly, I'm going to be pissed. (I'll probably have it in a week)
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