pacamilo

I think I answered the same, some weeks ago, to another guy.

So, I've tried CASL, PocketC, and now I'm testing Superwaba.

Con: the 300 Kb runtime.

Pros:
It's easy. I'm serious. The learning curve is easy, since you install it.
It's (almost) java.
It's free.

And for my interests it interfaces with the Palm apps: Datebook, Notepad, etc.

It compiles to WinCE also (I don't care)

I think that the install procedure is the worse part of the matter. But

http://www.superwaba-france.com/

has a good reference/recipe to install all the tools you need.


The home for Super waba (english, although the author of Superwaba is a brazilian guy) is

www.superwaba.com.br


How I started ?

I'm an IT Director of a Credit/Debit Card Company - so I have little extra time: I must take all the free time to work on a easy, although powerful tool with pratical, good, quick results.

I think C and C++, are the all time languages to Palm or anything elase: if you have the time to learn it, to use it; I think that C and C++ are for those peaople that are seriously commited with the development as a work life or a career.

Just isn't for me. I just don't have that time to it.

So, I'm addicted to Superwaba, because the Java/object concepts are very interesting; it's a langauge that you can use in every system (even in a chip card), and the results on a Palm are very, very interesting.

So, how I started ?

I bought 2 or 3 books about java:
1 in portuguese about Java and the object oriented programs to understand all of this concepts.
2 about the java itself :
"Thinking in java" , Bruce Eckel, PH PTR
"Java, How to Program", Deitel & Deitel, Prentice Hall

I also bought the 3 tutorial series of the superwaba on their site. I'm now following the user Interface Tutorial, wich is very, pratical and allow to use the language on the fly, in 5 minutes.

I'm trying a little program to make a Database of restaurants (in Portugal, we have a lot of places where we can eat - and drink, very well)

My next project is to interface with the Datebook, to achieve my own week view.

My dream is to make a Civ type game...

iebnn

The java apps that I've tried really didn't conform to palm os standards.... is this still the case with the latest superwaba release?

What didn't you like about CASL? Just curious.

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pacamilo

I think the language you choose is a matter of taste, feeling, student know how, time to learn.


I tested an older version of CASL 2-3 years ago (machines Palm V, Handera). I didn't like it.
That time I just wanted to manage and "work" the Datebook, and the support to native Palm Dbs wasn't quite good.

But as I said, I'm interested in Java (java card) and SuperWaba seems now quite interesting to me.

I know it's not native, and the overhead you obtain with the runtime....and I'm sure it's not quite fast as C or CASL (I think). But I like it !

pacamilo

I think the language you choose is a matter of taste, feeling, student know how, time to learn.


I tested an older version of CASL 2-3 years ago (machines Palm V, Handera). I didn't like it.
That time I just wanted to manage and "work" the Datebook, and the support to native Palm Dbs wasn't quite good.

But as I said, I'm interested in Java (java card) and SuperWaba seems now quite interesting to me.

I know it's not native, and the overhead you obtain with the runtime....and I'm sure it's not quite fast as C or CASL (I think). But I like it !

iebnn

Hm, the support in CASL for native palm dbs is fine... it's very easy to work with. I've made a couple apps that interact with the address book and memo pad databases, and had no problems (it was much less code than with C too).

It is not only taste. Well, some of it is, but it also depends on what you're developing. You can make games with Pocket C, but forget trying to make a text editor with it (for example).

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ayasin

Also who your developing it for and why. If your a hobbiest just about anything is ok, if your a professional developer your choices are more limited (client needs, market considerations, etc)

iebnn

And the amount of time you have to finish the project plays a big part in it.

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roast

I've been using the J2ME WTK, and plan on going to super-waba, I do like pure O-O design, but find the J2ME interpreter useless for any palm computing device.

What I do like about the Micro Edition, is the fact that I can put my small app/databse/whatever onto any cell phone/blackberry or palm device...

I'd agree with ayasin, that for a professional developer the options are limited and you do have to go mainstream.

fjl307

 

What about VB?? (Visual Basic)

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