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Old 06-25-2009, 07:36 AM   #16
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the more and more companies forbid the use of devices with a camera inside, the more and more PDA´s will come back, I guess. I already know lots of ppl trying to get a device without a camera - and having problems with that


I´m a PDA user since 1996

I'm glad to hear there are still others out there. What is this about companies forbidding the use of devices with cameras? This is news to me... Are people taking covert pictures of sensitive documents?
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the more and more companies forbid the use of devices with a camera inside, the more and more PDA´s will come back, I guess. I already know lots of ppl trying to get a device without a camera - and having problems with that


I´m a PDA user since 1996

Forgot about that issue with cameras in phones (or PDAs for that matter). Haven't heard much about that lately but it is an important issue with many companies. That would mena the PDA /smartphone manufacturer would have to offer the same units with the camera disabled from the factory.

Actually I have been a PDA user since the first HP 95LX "Palmtop" in 1991. DOS 3.2, Lotus 1 2 3, memory slot, all basic PDA functions, keyboard (no touch screen).
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I'm glad to hear there are still others out there. What is this about companies forbidding the use of devices with cameras? This is news to me... Are people taking covert pictures of sensitive documents?

Yes, that's the fear .............. industrial espionage. But most modern day PDAs have cameras, as well.
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I'm glad to hear there are still others out there. What is this about companies forbidding the use of devices with cameras? This is news to me... Are people taking covert pictures of sensitive documents?


In general, forbidding cameraphones on a companies premises is both silly, and hard to enforce. But we sometimes do work for Naval shipyards. And on their property, it's both forbidden and strongly enforced. In that type of place, it may still be carried farther than makes sense to me. But National security is still a concern I guess.
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Indeed, Intellectual Property is sometimes of more value than physical property.
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as a matter of fact I personally enjoy i.e. restaurants or clubs that enforce ppl to hand over their camera enabled device right at the entrance. I´d suppose, the more private videos of ppl not even knowing about it turn up on youtube, the more ppl will enjoy that there are places where I´m not going to see myself on youtube next day.

problem is, of course, not the camera or the device, but the ppl using it (and ignoring ppl´s rights when uploading it to youtube). anybody who ever saw himself filmed through his bathroom window will easily understand what I mean
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In general, forbidding cameraphones on a companies premises is both silly, and hard to enforce. But we sometimes do work for Naval shipyards. And on their property, it's both forbidden and strongly enforced. In that type of place, it may still be carried farther than makes sense to me. But National security is still a concern I guess.

National security is a real issue with camera phones. In the olden days there were 'spy cameras'. The camera phones are just as small. This also happens in industry all the time. companies have the prerogative to say how they'll attempt to safeguard their intellectual property.
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as a matter of fact I personally enjoy i.e. restaurants or clubs that enforce ppl to hand over their camera enabled device right at the entrance. I´d suppose, the more private videos of ppl not even knowing about it turn up on youtube, the more ppl will enjoy that there are places where I´m not going to see myself on youtube next day.

problem is, of course, not the camera or the device, but the ppl using it (and ignoring ppl´s rights when uploading it to youtube). anybody who ever saw himself filmed through his bathroom window will easily understand what I mean

Great points. Didn't realize there were restaurants that ask you to 'check your camera phone' at the door. Also keeps the idiots from sharing their cell phone conversations with everyone else in the restaurant. Most annoying.
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heyy ...im a newbie nd i have a question .... is the palm pre compatible with blackberry software??????
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heyy ...im a newbie nd i have a question .... is the palm pre compatible with blackberry software??????

Blackberry apps are not directly compatible with a palm pre as far as I know. They are 2 different operating systems. I would be like trying to run software that is only made for a mac on a PC will not work. There may be some blackberry apps that are or will be ported to WebOS but I do not know of any.
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I think the applications are really impressive. I wished there were more games but the other stuff is good. I think the navigation doesn't work well in a car. The maps don't keep up with you on the highway. But other then that the phone overall is probably going to be a home run for palm. I think its the best phone they have came out with so far.


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