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Old 05-27-2008, 09:00 AM   #1
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Win Mobile

Any Palm users switched over to a WM device? I'm curious how the changeover went, and if you ported any apps over via StyleTap or some other means. My TH-55 is now over 4 years old, and although it's still performing flawlessly I don't expect it to go another 4 years. The LCD and speaker have each already been replaced once. Wireless internet is useless as NetFront seems incompatible with just about any website I want to go to.

In particular, I've been looking at the HP iPaq devices. I'm intrigued by the 210/211, but put off a bit by the price. It's also a bit larger than the TH55, not sure I want something bigger. I definitely don't want a smaller screen, I've grown accustomed to the large form factor. I frequently read e-books, so a small screen would be counter productive. Browsing the internet on a square screen would be frustrating. So the Palm Treo/Centro is not really an option for me, unless Palm comes out with a larger form factor. The TX seems to have limited compatibility with Vista, particularly with 64-bit - this is my main desktop so that would be a problem for me.

I'd be interested in hearing about any experience other users have had making this switch.


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You can read about my transition from Palm to PPC here. It is a bit long, but you may find it interesting, nevertheless.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #3
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Very interesting, thanks for the link. I'm still holding out hope that my cell carrier will come out with a smartphone with similar screen resolution to the TH, though that seems unlikely in the immediate future. At least I have an idea what to expect should my TH have a massive failure. Barring a smartphone solution, I'm still partial to the HP iPaq.

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I am still preferring my PDA and Cell Phone separate. If I had to converge, the AT&T Tilt might be the path of least resistance for me.
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I've been searching for a Windows OS 6 device, but it seems like classic PDAs are going the way of the dinosaurs. Everyone's into integrated cell phones.

I was looking at the AT&T too as a good alternative as it has everything I want--get just the device and not the phone plan. While the QWERTY keyboard can come in handy, I would rather not have the keyboard just so it can be thinner. Specs list the Tilt thickness at .73 inches.

Not being familiar with how GPS devices work, anyone know if the GPS navigation still works without a phone plan? That is, do you have to pay a monthly subscription for the service, or do you just connect over wi-fi for free?
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I've been searching for a Windows OS 6 device, but it seems like classic PDAs are going the way of the dinosaurs. Everyone's into integrated cell phones.

I was looking at the AT&T too as a good alternative as it has everything I want--get just the device and not the phone plan. While the QWERTY keyboard can come in handy, I would rather not have the keyboard just so it can be thinner. Specs list the Tilt thickness at .73 inches.

Not being familiar with how GPS devices work, anyone know if the GPS navigation still works without a phone plan? That is, do you have to pay a monthly subscription for the service, or do you just connect over wi-fi for free?


With the exception of the new iPhone, cell phones with gps work over the phone's network. Reason being there isn't enough internal memory on a cell phone for the gps software and maps. So unless the phone explicitly says the gps is built-in, it won't work w/o a phone plan.

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With the exception of the new iPhone, cell phones with gps work over the phone's network. Reason being there isn't enough internal memory on a cell phone for the gps software and maps. So unless the phone explicitly says the gps is built-in, it won't work w/o a phone plan.

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The AT&T Tilt spec lists the GPS feature as:
"Built-in GPS for use with AT&T Navigator"

When I look up AT&T Navigator, it's a pay subscription service.
Does that mean even though it's built-in, it will only work over their service?
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The AT&T Tilt spec lists the GPS feature as:
"Built-in GPS for use with AT&T Navigator"

When I look up AT&T Navigator, it's a pay subscription service.
Does that mean even though it's built-in, it will only work over their service?


Yes, that's how subscription gps works - the info is sent over the airwaves, rather than the gps software & maps built in to the unit.

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i just made the switch

and am still figuring out how the h@*#ll windows mobile users put up with all the nested menus and weird d-pad behavior
and how using the phone to call someone can be made difficult and complicated by windows mobile etc etc...
and how you lose the ability to wireless sync over wifi (forget that, even reliable syncing with the darn cable is difficult. to overcome glitchy syncing i have downloaded vista service pack 1 and the newest windows mobile device manager and i have never been able to get the stupid microsoft software to sync even one task although i do get spotty syncing of other pims like contacts .... this is just a little more time consuming and difficult than i expected)

needless to say, i am not at the stage where i feel i have a lot of legitimate complaints to offer bill gates but not yet at the stage where i can give helpful advice... maybe this is the same thing all the others before me (who switched to the dark side earlier) went through?
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i just made the switch

oops i meant.... i am at the stage where i am almost bursting with what i feel are legitimate complaints about windows mobile ... but not yet at the stage where i am good enough at it to give helpful advice to others
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I hated Windows Mobile at first too, but I eventually came to love it.

I love having GPS built in, and being able to make my own interface.
I used S2U2 for answering calls, and my own interface for everything else (http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...t=446603&page=2) (screenshots in post 13)

It's very nice
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I was a die hard Palm user (Tungsten C primary) for years. Once, I temporary switched to windows mobile 2003 (pocket pc)- then switched back to my Tungsten C after a few weeks. Now, I completely switched to pocket pc windows mobile 6! I do miss my Tungsten C. But, the wifi was having issues and I got tired carrying a pda and phone together. So I got a ppc 6800 mogul and very happy. I had to relearn all over again how to use it a pocket pc. It is way different than palm. But it seems that pocket pc platform has caught up with palm in developing useful apps. I tricked out my pc like I did my TC. It is weird when I am surfing the net, then i get a call... I sometimes forget that it is a phone. I am so conditioned with my TC. So, I do recommend the switch. But if you love the palm platform, get yourself a treo. I would have, but they are hard to get it flashed for metro.
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