dsaroff

My comment to your comments:
datebk6: iCal ---> Not the same. Frankly, I prefer DB6
splashID: Unknown -----> Major issue
smartlist: Unknown -------> Major Issue
wikipedia: wikipedia ------> I actually have the 1GB file on my Palm
tealphone: iPhone
word: Unkown (Word maybe? it's OS X after all...)--->Big deal
excell: see word --->Big Deal
powerpoint: see above, plus keynote ---->Big Deal
Inspiration: Unknown
Megaclock: c'mon! The thing runs widgets etc! Megaclock does not measure up. --->How do you know Megaclock doesn't measure up? It is extremely powerful. Widgets are...widgets, not meant to be powerful
Lifedrive mode: iPod mode --->I have an iPod, it's iPod mode is now where near as powerful and flexible as LifeDrive mode.
dictionaries: dictionaries (comes with aspell or ispell built in; can't remember which. This adds live spellchecking to all apps on the iPhone) ---> I mean a REAL dictionary, like M-W with 350k, definitions, pronounciations.
encyclopedias: web browser (see wikipedia for instance)
tomeraider: um... I'd say iSilo or PalmFiction or Plucker... but anyway: I'm interested in this one. I guess I could make a tomeraider-like widget....
dataview: Unknown ---> Regarding you making a widget, news reports say that Apple will keep it a CLOSED environment, without 3rd party apps.
mobipocket: see tomeraider.

I also forgot the LAME virtual keyboard.

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Nadie

I agree. Palm is a closed market mostly for ppl wich doesnt like to hack or customize their gadgets/oss/etc beyond the simple scripting.

Nadie

Err. I mean Apple, not Palm. doh. Sorry.

_Em

I take it you mean Apple peripherals, and not the OS X platform

I really do wish that Apple had included SDIO and let things loaded from it run in a protected memory space.

Then again, much of the iPhone software hasn't even been written yet, so we'll see what Apple really has when they start selling in June. Personally, I *never* buy Apple G1 products anyway; they're usually a bit flaky. G2 is more stable, and G3 adds the features that others have requested. So, don't expect the perfect smartPhone until at least 2009/2010. Maybe they'll have added static fields or heatpoints for tactile feedback by then too

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dsaroff

Nope. I mean the SOFTWARE. Jobs stated that it would be a closed development environment that would not involve 3rd party apps. Reported in Infoworld and cNect

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archangel

This is a very big deal and may (it will depend on what the final hardware can do) keep me loyal to Palm. However, for the average consumer this is probably a non factor as it will have most of the wanted features built in and you can do a lot with the widgets.

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jamesgraylx

Third Party Apps is why I have had a palm for years. (I work in the film industry) all the calculators, depth of field charts etc make a palm very handy.

What ever your trade someone has made a programme for it. This open source is what makes palm special - so the iphone might rock but everyone wants different apps.

Just chect out the ammount of available software for different devices. Palm aint dead yet!

My gripe with ALL of them apart from say Blackberry is standardising charging and data transfer.
How annoying is it when you laeve a charger behind or need a datacable - bluetooth helps but why not mini usb? and standard headphone jacks{yes you sony erricson) and motorola using mini usb with a chip in it so you have to use theirs!

Anyway a little off topic!!

Dekaritae

I think the killer app for the iPhone may be the browser. Suppose all third-party applications come in a browser-based form. Not just gmail.com or popcap.com, but full-on environments like goowy and netvibes.

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hgradeca

Hi!
Today I had the chance to see an Iphone...
I was not impressed by it at all.
First of all, its screen gets dirty,because there is no stylus and I don't like this at all.
Although it is much smaller than my dear LifeDrive, it doesn't offer that many functions - in fact the only things that my LD doesn't have is the phone in it and the camera, but since I prefer quality images, this is not a concern for me and my mobile phone is adequate for making calls!
The biggest disappointment for me was the lack of third party applications! There are so many ways to customize the Palm, but on this thing, I cannot change a thing! That is a big drawback, if you ask me!
Well, I have to admit that its launcher looks nice, but that is all to say - it just looks nice. Palm user interface is much better designed and easier to use.
The only program which was superior to the one on Palm is the browser, but that is also not a problem to me, because Xiino uses much less bandwidth, and that is what matters to me!
One of the most annoying things was the automatic turning of the screen between portrait and landscape modes - I want to be the boss, I want to tell when the screen turns and when not! And now serious - it can be quite inconvenient - my camera has the same option and I turned off, because it turned the picture exactly when it was inconvenient. I prefer the good old button here!
So, overall it is not that much more advanced than my LifeDrive at all, although it is 2 years newer! That was the biggest thing that disappointed me - besides its size, look and touchscreen which allows multiple presses at once, it offers absolutely nothing new.
So, until Palm makes something that is going to be a big step forwars and leave this thing a looong way behind, I will just use my trusty LifeDrive and wait until history repeats - until the Iphone ends like Newton, forgotten and buried by Palm's simplicity and quality!

ssulux

at this moment i am quite happy with the iPhone.
can add apps even though cant really compete with POS' apps.
can skin the interface.

so i think that this platform will have quite promising future to compete with POS.
especially there are developers are playing around with this platform and so many beta apps in the net.
and i believe that steve jobs will talk something with the apple developers in the coming weeks, in which one of the topic would be the iPhone platform?

some of the function can be replaced by iPhone current beta apps.
splashid --- lockbox
pdfreader.
ebook reader --- haven't checked yet the format acceptable?
doc, xls and pdf can be read by safari and in full function --- landscape, zoom in and out by pinching and spreading 2 fingers.

basic pda function such as contacts, calendar, notes and to do.
notepad --- sketches.
VNotes for voice recording.
weDict --- dictionary engine with so many dictionary available such as merriam webster and longman.
chat apps --- for aol, msn, .mac, yahoo, gmail, and icq.
some games, such as sudoku, tetris, 5 dice (yahtzee?), minesweeper, blackjack, etc.
iDoom is in the progress?

customize the user interface just like zlauncher:
--- smbprefs, customize (incl rSBT), dock, etc.

there would be a lot of contradictive opinion in this iPhone but i am happy with it and i really think that my iPhone looks gorgeous (hardware and software).
maybe some great POS developers such as dmitry and zztech are in the observation stage to provide future iPhone apps.