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09-02-2003, 12:45 AM
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#1 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kyoto, Japan
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 | VFSMark Results: SD - CF Card fastest!
VFSMark Results 512mb MS-Pro on Clie NX80V
File Create: 116%
File Delete: 115%
File Write: 20%
File Read: 437%
File Seek: 236%
DB Export: 100%
DB Import: 436%
Record Access: 381%
Resource Access: 358%
VFSMark: 244
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VFSMark Results 128mb MS - Magic Gate on Clie NX80V
File Create: 112%
File Delete: 64%
File Write: 28%
File Read: 228%
File Seek: 190%
DB Export: 84%
DB Import: 275%
Record Access: 282%
Resource Access: 254%
VFSMark: 168
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VFSMark Results 128mb SD - TDK / Compact Flash Converter on Clie NX80V
File Create: 238%
File Delete: 130%
File Write: 60%
File Read: 305%
File Seek: 472%
DB Export: 182%
DB Import: 451%
Record Access: 482%
Resource Access: 441%
VFSMark: 306
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Pretty impressive results for this last one! The SD card is almost twice as fast as a Magic Gate MS and faster than an MS-PRO. Wow! 
I don't have a regular CF card to test though.
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09-02-2003, 12:56 AM
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#2 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
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09-02-2003, 01:46 AM
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#3 | | Registered User
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| wow, I knew the SD were fast! but thought the SD-CF adaptor could be the bottle neck & cause the speed to decrease on the CLIE. I have one 256MB SD with the SD-CF adaptor sitting just right in front of my face.
But I suppose the 128MB SD might run a little faster compared to the 256MB SD (when using through the SD-CF adaptor). Since I couldn't get the 256MB SD to run with Eruware on my NX70, only the 3-bit driver got it running. (oh, & I think Pelaca's driver should also work well, though I haven't tried it actually.) 
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09-02-2003, 01:51 AM
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#4 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
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| Debating with myself whether to run to the shops to get a 1GB CF card right now.
Hmmm........
I won! Off I go then.
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09-02-2003, 03:07 AM
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| congradulations to a soon to be 1G CF owner!
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09-02-2003, 05:04 AM
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#6 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kyoto, Japan
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| Damn! Everywhere in Kyoto has sold out of 1GB CFs! 
So I got a pretty good deal on an IO-Data 512MB 20x CF card.
This thing is fast! Check out the results.
VFSMark Results 512mb CF - 20x IO-Data on Clie NX80V
File Create: 126%
File Delete: 61%
File Write: 35%
File Read: 307%
File Seek: 536% !!
DB Export: 80%
DB Import: 537% !!
Record Access: 540% !!
Resource Access: 498% !!
VFSMark: 302
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Compare with:
VFSMark Results 512mb MS-Pro on Clie NX80V
File Create: 116%
File Delete: 115%
File Write: 20%
File Read: 437%
File Seek: 236%
DB Export: 100%
DB Import: 436%
Record Access: 381%
Resource Access: 358%
VFSMark: 244
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That CF card is pretty fast!
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09-02-2003, 08:24 AM
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| Be careful, VFS marks may not tell the whole story and has been found not to be all that reliable. Better to do timed experiments instead by copy data back and forth manually. There you will get more of a real world expectation in it's actual use. 
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09-02-2003, 08:48 AM
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09-02-2003, 10:12 AM
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#9 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
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| Yep! Actually I'm having probs with a few apps - Clie's been pausing quite a bit. Backup man won't use the CF card at all. Any ideas. Def slower than the MS Pro and seems unstable. Is the same for everyone?
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09-02-2003, 10:21 AM
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Can you post the brand name of the converter? | |
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09-02-2003, 10:58 AM
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#11 | | Registered User
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| VFSMark is a highly suspect.
The final 'VFSMark' number is statistically bogus.
The individual tests are generally ok. Two of the more useful numbers are the File Read and File Write percentages. The SD card you mention has a much faster write time which is good, but still much slower than a fast CF card.
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BTW: If you want to see some crazy numbers:
For a 1GB PQI (40X CF card) on NZ90
File Create: 795%
File Delete: 548%
File Write: 233%
File Read: 307%
File Seek: 536%
DB Export: 268%
DB Import: 646%
Record Access: 503%
Resource Access: 492%
Total VFSMark: 480 | |
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09-02-2003, 11:21 AM
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#12 | | Registered User
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| Quote: Originally posted by Dags
Yep! Actually I'm having probs with a few apps - Clie's been pausing quite a bit. Backup man won't use the CF card at all. Any ideas. Def slower than the MS Pro and seems unstable. Is the same for everyone? |
you're not the only one, just about everybody with a CF, (just my personal thought), has the same issues with CF Cards playback. MP3s are perfectly OK, except when trying to playback movies in *.MQV format. I use CliePet's 3-bit still on my NX70 & it's sweet!
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09-02-2003, 02:17 PM
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#13 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
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| Quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
Can you post the brand name of the converter? |
Sure - It's a Pretec CompactTRIO. It handles SD/MMC/MS cards and compared with my new CF card it works flawlessly. No probs what so ever. It is about 2/3 longer than a regular CF card though which makes it stick out quite a bit.
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09-02-2003, 02:20 PM
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#14 | | T|T3.5 JOS / Zodiac_2 JOS
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| Quote: Originally posted by Eddy
you're not the only one, just about everybody with a CF, (just my personal thought), has the same issues with CF Cards playback. MP3s are perfectly OK, except when trying to playback movies in *.MQV format. I use CliePet's 3-bit still on my NX70 & it's sweet! |
I suppose so - I intend to only use it for MP3s and Movies anyway. It would have been nice to be able to do a backup to the card as well though. Seems to work fine with MP3s and the data import from my PC is much more stable than with an MS-PRO which occasionally locks up in the middle of importing.
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09-02-2003, 11:02 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Dags
It would have been nice to be able to do a backup to the card as well though. |
You can still do initial backups to the CompactFlash Card, (eg, everytime you make a minor change or added a new application), but you just can't do recovery from them.
You'd still need to do a recovery from MS first, then once the CF is recognized then you can use your CF to do the recovery though....
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