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JAmerican 12-04-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippo
if the problem isn't your volt meter or UX itself, check all contact & wires twice
either poor conduction, electrical leakage, bad battery, find the reason by elimiation


I think the problem was electrical leakage. In my mod before, I noticed that I had a long strip of foil. This might have spread out the current not sending all of it to the wire. So I placed the wire closer to the connectors and cut the foil. This should make the transfer of current quicker as well as lower electrical leakage.

JAmerican

dragonsgames 12-04-2005 08:48 PM

Sorry for my stupidity, but is the electrical leakage dangerous? :o

JAmerican 12-04-2005 08:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonsgames
Sorry for my stupidity, but is the electrical leakage dangerous? :o


My definition of electrial leakage is that the power is speading out and thus missing the pickup. The power is 4.2V max. This is not a lot of power. The UX is also grounded. So any extra current there is will be sent to ground.

JAmerican

dragonsgames 12-04-2005 08:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAmerican
The power is 4.2V max


And needs 5, right? :D

JAmerican 12-04-2005 09:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonsgames
And needs 5, right? :D


No. 5 would short your device. 5V is sent to the UX's positive terminial which is sent to the charging circuit and I guess a resistor thats built in the UX to lower the voltage to 4V to be sent to the UX's battery for charging. Think about it this way. Place 4 regular AA batteries together terminal to terminal. There is a total of 6V. If you touch both ends, you won't be shocked or you might but you won't feel it.

JAmerican

dragonsgames 12-04-2005 09:25 PM

It has to lower the voltage, becuase my charger and charging case say "output and input, 5V".

Hippo 12-04-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonsgames
It has to lower the voltage, becuase my charger and charging case say "output and input, 5V".

that's why Mr JAmerica mask Pin 1 & cover a foil to connect moded EB40 to internal battery.

JAmerican 12-04-2005 09:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippo
that's why Mr JAmerica mask Pin 1 & cover a foil to connect moded EB40 to internal battery.


Hippo, do you think foil is a good enough conductor? I'm wondering if thats causing my problems. I already moved the wires closer to the connector so that the current would be transferred to the wire quicker. But still not sure if the foil is causing most of my problems?



The cut foil is not pictured above but the placement of the wires is.

JAmerican

Hippo 12-04-2005 09:42 PM

If you want to prove the problem is the foil or not, why don't you solder moded EB40 to UX directly for running a test ?

JAmerican 12-04-2005 09:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippo
If you want to prove the problem is the foil or not, why don't you solder moded EB40 to UX directly for running a test ?


Hmm. I see. I'm still charging my device after doing the mod above. I'll let you know how that goes and then might have to remove the foil and lead the wires out of my device for a test. That way, it will be a direct connection without foil. Thanks for the suggestion.

JAmerican

Hippo 12-04-2005 09:50 PM

I bet your problem is the foil (from your kitchen ?) because it is hard to solder a wire to foil.

JAmerican 12-04-2005 10:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippo
I bet your problem is the foil (from your kitchen ?) because it is hard to solder a wire to foil.


It seems to be working now. Its from my kitchen :). lol. I didn't solder it. I just connect it. More of my EB40 power is being used now. I'm going to wrap the foil around the wire, since some is still escaping.

New diagram



JAmerican

Hippo 12-04-2005 11:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAmerican
It seems to be working now. Its from my kitchen :). lol. I didn't solder it. I just connect it. More of my EB40 power is being used now. I'm going to wrap the foil around the wire, since some is still escaping.

New diagram

http://jamerican.net/1src/UX50/EB40...CableLayout.PNG
JAmerican

I think you found the problem already

JAmerican 12-04-2005 11:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippo
I think you found the problem already


Sometimes I need to discuss the issue with others to obtain the answer. Even if the person, in this case you, doesn't even state the answer or solution.

Thanks anyway.

JAmerican

JAmerican 12-05-2005 12:21 AM

OK, I did it and my device read 4.19v. It was at 93% so thats understandable. I think its fixed fully or for the most part now. I'm gonna recharge and test it.



JAmerican


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