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Tixx 03-16-2003 12:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rldunn
Yes, that must be what he meant. My setup is to have Jackflash in RAM and a copy of FlashEnable in a directory on my MS. I tested a hard reset with the new JF setup, and after the hard reset, I ran Clie Files to COPY FlashEnable back to RAM, which made all of my Flash files show up, then I ran BackupMan to do a restore. Worked flawlessly.

If you don't want to keep Jackflash in RAM, you could use the following setup:

Put Jackflash in the Launcher folder and FlashEnable in RAM. After a hard reset, just run Jackflash once from the Card category of the default launcher, then you can run your backup app (if it was stored in Flash).


The program JackFlash said it wasn't for my device when I ran it on my NX and told me to use the Enable program. Jack Flash works on yours?

rldunn 03-16-2003 12:51 PM

Tixx, I believe you're thinking about Jacksafe, which did give me that message. FlashEnable isn't as nice as Jacksafe (which allows ROM apps to be available immediately after a hard reset without having to run something first), but it does work on the NX.

ClieMarty 03-16-2003 01:14 PM

does anybody know when jacksprat for os5 will be available? i use an european device and shall get rid of the extra languages and stuff before i may use jackflash; does anybody know how much rom is available on european devices without removing something from rom?

outie 03-16-2003 01:28 PM

I think jackflash works nicely on our NX. I have heard ppl with TT having loxa troubles with jackflash + Jacksafe. After they installed jacksafe their device couldn't get to prefs at all. They did all kinds of soft/hard resettings.

mdharris 03-16-2003 01:29 PM

Quick question when you move an app over to flash does it move all the associated files with it?

Also on OS5 I assume we are not using JackSafe but rather FlashEnabled. Can this app be moved to memory stick and left there?

Tixx 03-16-2003 01:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rldunn
Tixx, I believe you're thinking about Jacksafe, which did give me that message. FlashEnable isn't as nice as Jacksafe (which allows ROM apps to be available immediately after a hard reset without having to run something first), but it does work on the NX.


Yea, that is it. All the JackThis and JackThat I know the program, but write the wrong one in my responses;)

Tixx 03-16-2003 01:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rldunn
Tixx, I believe you're thinking about Jacksafe, which did give me that message. FlashEnable isn't as nice as Jacksafe (which allows ROM apps to be available immediately after a hard reset without having to run something first), but it does work on the NX.


When I run JackSafe on my NX I get this message:
"JackSafe is not supported on this device.
Please use FlashEnable instead. It can be found in the JackFlash distribution."

How do you put it on yours?

Tixx 03-16-2003 01:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mdharris
Quick question when you move an app over to flash does it move all the associated files with it?

Also on OS5 I assume we are not using JackSafe but rather FlashEnabled. Can this app be moved to memory stick and left there?


1) No.

2) Yes. "FlashEnable should be copied to an expansion card. This copy can then be used after a hard reset or battery failure to restore the contents of Flash. Just run FlashEnable once to re-enable the Flash after a Hard Reset."

rldunn 03-16-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tixx


When I run JackSafe on my NX I get this message:
"JackSafe is not supported on this device.
Please use FlashEnable instead. It can be found in the JackFlash distribution."

How do you put it on yours?
You're confused again :) Here's my setup:

Jackflash in RAM.
FlashEnable in a directory on my MS (left there in case I need to copy it back to RAM after a hard reset.
Jacksafe not installed (will not install on the NX).

sstrasser86 03-16-2003 01:44 PM

wow this thread has taken up 12 pages!

eyesee 03-16-2003 01:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rldunn
You're confused again :) Here's my setup:

Jackflash in RAM.
FlashEnable in a directory on my MS (left there in case I need to copy it back to RAM after a hard reset.
Jacksafe not installed (will not install on the NX).


Now I'm confused!!!

I've been eagerly reading this thread since it began, but now I am a little mixed up... what exactly is FlashEnable for then?  From what I gather, it allows the programs you move to flash to be "seen," is that right?  So, if you move FlashEnable to ROM with JackFlash, would it still run after a hard reset, or is keeping a copy on the MS a must?

MikeLang 03-16-2003 02:10 PM

Can't you just keep a copy of JackFlash on the MS and after a hard reset, copy JF back to ram and run it to reenable all the apps in flash?

If yes, why do you need JackEnable?
Thanks.
-Mike-

rldunn 03-16-2003 02:11 PM

OK, let me tackle this from the start.

There are two files you need for the NX (and NZ, I presume). Jackflash and FlashEnable. Do not install Jacksafe; it doesn't work anyway.

Jackflash is the main file which allows you to move apps to and from Flash. Jackflash can be run from RAM or from the MS; do not put this into Flash.

FlashEnable has a few purposes:

a) If Jackflash is in RAM, the only purpose FlashEnable has is to allow apps to be seen after a hard reset (since Jackflash wouldn't be in RAM at that point). Alternatively, you could have a 2nd copy of Jackflash stored on the MS and run that version once after a hard reset, in which case you wouldn't need FlashEnable at all. However, FlashEnable is much smaller, so if you're going to store an "extra" copy on the MS just for this reason, FlashEnable is probably the better choice.

b) If Jackflash in stored on the MS only, then you need FlashEnable in RAM so that Flash files are available after a SOFT reset. The reason is that the system extensions need to be updated after a soft reset so that the system knows those apps in Flash exist. Normally, Jackflash does this, but if it's stored on the MS, it can't. This is where FlashEnable comes in. Alternatively, FlashEnable could be stored in Flash and perform the same function.

So, if Jackflash is left in RAM, there is absolutely no benefit to having FlashEnable stored in Flash.

MikeLang 03-16-2003 02:18 PM

Thanks for the explanation, it's pretty clear now except...

Quote:
Originally posted by rldunn
Alternatively, FlashEnable could be stored in Flash and perform the same function.

So, if Jackflash is left in RAM, there is absolutely no benefit to having FlashEnable stored in Flash.


if JackEnable is stored in flash and with no JackFlash in ram, how do you run JackEnable after a reset as it's not visible until JE can be run (back to chicken and egg)?

-Mike-

rldunn 03-16-2003 02:21 PM

If FlashEnable is in Flash or RAM, it does it's trick without being run after a SOFT reset. So, if you have FlashEnable in Flash and Jackflash on the MS, all of your Flash files will be immediately available after a soft reset without you needing to do anything.


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