Go for it hellraiser666. I'm glad I did.
That was me above , wasn't logged in :(.
Newton user from 1997 to last month (when I bought an NX70) chiming in here.
Shadow Plan brings to the Clie a feature I used extensively on the Newton -- hierarchical lists in Notes (MemoPad equivalent). But Shadow Plan goes beyond Notes to offer automatic linking to ToDos, filtering, divers view formats changeable on the fly... quite nice.
DateBk5 gives me some of the functionality of MoreInfo (third-party software which extended the Newton's built-in Dates) and compensates with rapid switching between views. (Hey, is there any way to set up a new appointment in the future other than to start one in the current view, ie today, and edit its details? MoreInfo had a nice single screen that came up with item text and date in one place -- in DateBk5 there seems to be no way to edit the text while the date is visible!)
Palm Address Book seems quite restricted, and I haven't decided what level of replacement to seek yet.
Newpen gives me some limited ability to write anywhere on the screen (doesn't seem to work well with Shadow Plan or DateBk5). ballistic and I had a discussion (now erased) of HWR for the Clie -- I'm not convinced I need it, but it would be nice for the masses, I suspect.
Bought the wireless card mostly to try to emulate some of the wired functionality I had on the Newton with Newt's Cape, a browser which converted HTML to the built-in Newton Book format. But I think NetFront is just not up to the task in some ways. I may go with iSilo and wired syncing instead.
Used Notion on the Newton to keep tabular information (it is a database app) -- will try to make do with HandyShopper for now.
Had some very nice UI assists on the Newton -- HiLite 2000 which brought up a floating window when I highlighted text (cut, copy, paste, del), and PunctPad which put a very nice configurable button/key set across the soft button bar at the bottom of the Newton. The latter should be doable with skins, I'm waiting to see what people come out with, but Sony's pace of releases is so fast that I may be left behind.
My ten-year-old is using the Newton now to organize her music practice. Hasn't looked at a manual once -- figured out on her own how to use it to record short snippets of her playing (though she was frustrated at the tiny speaker, 1997 technology). Newton is my classic example of how good ideas can fail for the wrong reasons. There still isn't anything like it, though I am quite happy with my Clie. --PR
Newton vs Clie applications
Switched to a T615c for business use, using Filemaker for palm to replace Leverage. YiShow for Background to replaceAvi's background, McPhling for Dashboard. Use my 2100 for notes and email, T615c is not a NX. What are you using for notes?
i take notes in my classes on my nx with the built in thumb keyboard. I lay it down on the desk and can type probably 40-50 wpm using mainly my index and middle fingers. I have yet to fall behind in a lecture. Not to mention i have a good orginization method w/ wordsmith for all my classes, it's good stuff. I don't want a full keyboard, the only need i would have one would be for typing papers, but since i got a desktop and a laptop too, i guess i should be alright.
I don't want to pay too much money for one though - so will have a look around to see what's available when I get a chance.
Data inport/export to Newton
Sorry have been up a mountain for the weekend.
1. About the skins, I couls have a bash at that, but need the time to get a suitable tool for the Newton.
2. There is a software out there that enables the Newton OBEX IRDA driver to work with Palm OS 3.5 and above. Not sure about OS 5.0 though. Can't remember whats it called but I image it can be found on www.unna.org
Still regret the HWR which went to Pocket PC as Caligarpher and Transcript. The new Tablet PCs have this installed as standard.
Jot is OK but the with a 200 MHZ ARM processor, it could and should be better.
Re: Data inport/export to Newton
Re: #2. BackTalk by Smart Dog Software http://www.smartdogsw.com/ allows the Palm & Newton to exchange beamed information.
anybody there to point on some screenshots of the newton?
Here's the manual http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/docu...UsersManual.pdf
Data Sheet http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/docu...eets/MP2100.pdf
Web Page served on a Newton http://newton.splorp.com:8080/ with link to live screen shot
http://www.newtenlightment.de/ good site (also served on a Newton!)with lots of screen shots, check out usability movies under downloads section
lewisrr -- using ShadowPlan to replace Notes. It doesn't do embedded drawings, but I never used that feature. I never took really long notes (eg in seminars) on my Newton anyway. I used to use it with an external keyboard for travel notes. Could use a keyboard for the NX. Why are you, with a T615C, reading the NX forum?
SwissUser: slight correction -- the PocketPC HWR is a descendant of the early lousy HWR on the Newton. The really good HWR arrived with Newton OS 2.1, and Apple kept that; it is now Inkwell under OS X. --PR
- supernames and Dateman from standalone (also on the newton)
- Projects (projects4palmos.sourceforge.net) as a list manager
- BugMe as a non-HWR notepad
There's a wassup skin that uses newton icons, but I still haven't found a launcher that gets close to the customization I have when I turn on my MP2100 - I rearely have to tap more than once to get what I need. I use voicenotes heavily on the mP as well.
I miss the way the newton worked, i.e.:
1) Drag text to the edge of the screen to copy between applications.
2) Scibble out text to erase a word or a sentence or a paragraph. I was smart enought to know what you wanted.
3) It knew the difference between drawing a Circle, the letter "oh" or a zero.
4) It was smart enough to know what field in a form you were trying to enter text into using HWR and place it there. I've seen on the PPC when you attemt something like this if your entry was more than one line long, your entry would normally fill multiple fields. Wherever the text was closest too.
4) The placement of a space after a period before the recognition of a new word than after the recognition of a period. This prevented unwanted spaces.
5) ASSIST was way cool. i.e, to enter a todo from the notepad, simply write, "Remember to take out the trash before 5 am tomorrow to beat the garbage truck", press assist and whammo, a properly formated ToDo with proper dates and times. Lots of things work this way.
6) The human touches the MP provided for feedback when you issued a command, such as the delete animation and the email animation. Nice.
7) The MP was one of the most customizable PDA's ever. The PPC is probably the most, but then you need it there to make it work.
There are many more, but it has been a very long while since I used one last. Looks like I'm going to have to fire up my old V2MP120 to bring back old memories.
May the MP RIP. LLTN
I too miss the Newton, having started with the MP in 1994.
The closest thing I've found to the Newt's Assist function is a program called Actioneer. Assist, of course, was part of the Newto's OS whereas this is a program that tries to embed itself into some of the Palm OS basic functions.
Forgot to mention that I tried it but ended up removing it. However, don't let that deter you from trying the software. Also check out the Flash Demo of the software.
I think I'm going to buy myself another Newt on Ebay for old times sake.
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