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Rossi01 11-24-2010 04:02 AM

To everything already posted I add:

1) the Dektop app os hands down much better than iTunes for data management.

2) backups - besides creating different restore points we do not need a PC to restore

3) security - we can segregate and hide data via password

4) you can install and app from the memory stick

5) removable memory stick allows for flexibility and security

6) data management is way better in the Clie than in Apple's device (I own an iPhone)

Those just come on top of my mind.
The Clie was the best PDA ever created. It's showing its age but still a very strong contender.

laolita 12-06-2010 12:41 AM

and battery life?
 
My son just got an iPod Touch 4G. It is a beautiful and slim device... but he seems to be forever charging it.

jj2me 12-06-2010 09:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by laolita
My son just got an iPod Touch 4G. It is a beautiful and slim device... but he seems to be forever charging it.


I don't have an iPod Touch, but I ran across these battery-preserving suggestions on Amazon.

laolita 12-06-2010 10:38 AM

Thanks - passing those tips on.

ankh 12-09-2010 12:48 AM

This looks promising:
http://cruzsupport.velocitymicro.co...asp?deptID=5758

hat tip to this ebookreader blogger I just noticed:
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2.../#comment-12490

In fact -- wow: open platform, apparently:
http://cruzsupport.velocitymicro.co...asp?deptID=5758

Clie Patra 12-09-2010 07:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by olderTechnology
Nobody mentioned Graffiti for Android. Has anybody tried that, and does it solve the input problem for us Palm old-timers?

It is Graffiti 1 by the way, not Graffiti 2.

http://www.access-company.com/cgi/n...&aname=graffiti

I have it on my HTC Wildfire (Android 2.1). Works very well and it's free.

ankh 12-10-2010 02:23 PM

I was real hopeful about the iPod myself -- the only thing I've never gotten happy with on my TH55 is Graffiti2. I started with an original Palm Pilot with Graffiti 1. So many thanks for the tip above pointing to Graffiti 1 for Android.

Still not ready to give up on my TH55, I'd buy another one if I stumbled across one locally, but I'm sure getting intrigued by the Android tablets showing up that are open platform and affordable.

Cyker 12-13-2010 06:15 AM

How are you guys finding graffiti on the android?

One thing I hate about smartphones is they all use capacitive touch screens so you can't use a stylus, you have to use the big fat pad of your finger and I can't imagine being able to graffti accurately on a TH55-sized screen with my fat fingers :S

I must admit I covet the wifi connectivity of the android phones, but there's so much stuff on my TH55 that would be a nightmare to port across (All the encrypted stuff and huge databases especially!)

Clie Patra 12-13-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyker
How are you guys finding graffiti on the android?


I gave it 5/5 stars on the Android market (and I have XXL gloves too:-))

ankh 12-13-2010 11:47 AM

Does the ipad, or any Android device

-- easily take files in any format? I use PorDiBle and Calibre often, to make text from various sources readable on my Clies

-- dim as low as the TH55 with the screen dimming app, or the SJ30?
(Why? see the thread on dimming for dark use: http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125426 )

-- run Mobipocket Reader, or any other text reader that allows setting the font color and background color?

-- have a decent one-handed operation (the Clie SJ30 jog dial or the TH55 whatsis on the back both work Ok for holding one-handed and advancing through text)

-- attachment for a lanyard, string, wrist loop, or similar butterfingers protection

I mostly use my Clies for reading late at night, very dim, black background and yellow font, so not to ruin my night vision.

And if I can find anything -- iPad or Android -- offering the same facility that will accept plain text, or files I can convert with

ankh 12-14-2010 05:57 PM

Just happened on this: how to get the TH55 and Apple's iSync together:
http://blogs.sun.com/openomics/entr..._sony_cli%C3%A9


and some Android readers for Palm ebooks:
http://www.dancingdroid.com/?p=24

ankh 12-14-2010 11:09 PM

omighsh, there may be hope yet.

Look at their Palm OS5 (Garnet) PDA here. It's build-to-suit, and while their shopping cart will let you get to the point of paying for it, it's not clear after my first visit whether it's shipping, nor whether it's really going to be up to matching what the TH55 can do.

But it's the only current hope I've come across.

http://www.aceeca.com/home/product_comparison.php

hat tip to: http://www.palminfocenter.com/

enderenya 12-15-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyker
Two words: Data Entry.

There is not a single touch-screen phone or device out there yet which can beat a Palm unit for data entry.

Graffiti really was a work of genius.

I was trying to enter an SSID, WEP key and proxy server on an iPhone and it was bloody torture! :(
Unless you have *no* fingernails, it's awkward as hell to enter text anywhere near as rapidly or comfortably as a Palm unit. AND you have to look at the screen while doing it; Because I've been graffti'ing so long, I can just turn on Graffiti Anywhere and write without even looking at the screen and with only minimal errors!

With two strokes, I can enter symbols that Android and iPhones don't even have access too! :D

The only thing that could budge me from my TH55 is a resistive touch screen device (Seriously, I hatehateHATE capacitive touch screens!) with full-screen Graffiti capabilities and WiFi-N support!
The first thing I noticed about your response was that you didn't include a WPA2 passphrase (or WPA for that matter) in your list of items you were trying to enter.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the TH55, but the biggest initial reason I switched to an iPod Touch 2g back in 2008 was because the TH55 doesn't support WPA or WPA2 for connecting to wireless networks. When most companies use the higher encryption methods, what is one to do? Did I miss the solution for this?

Cyker 12-31-2010 11:46 AM

Alas no :(

As I said in #23, that is one of the reasons I'm even considering looking at Android devices :D

TBH, my TH55 battery as gotten to the point that even turning on the WiFi results in a 25% drop (Turning it off again makes it go back up tho'?!) and even NetFront can't cope with a lot of the overkill JS/CSS that lots of websites use these days so the WFi has been doubly useless :(

I think last time I used it I was hiijacking someone's totally open house WiFi to use PalmOS GoogleMaps because I was lost :D (My god that was so slow! Yet another thing to tempt me to an Android!! :D)

olderTechnology 01-07-2011 01:00 PM

Count me in as a happy Android convert. (Guess I need to change my picture :) ). But I find that I don't use the Graffiti for Android like I thought I would. Need more time, but Samsung Galaxy S has this think called "Swype" that is really good -- you basically draw the word instead of drawing the letters.

Android suffers pretty badly in the PIM area compared to the old "zen of Palm", but my happiness with Palm was mostly because of the excellence of Chapura PocketMirror. There is a product called CompanionLink that may fill that void for me. I want to go back to doing what I used to do--- sync my phone to both my home computer and work computer, using a cable.

I think the reason Graffiti stopped being as important to me is that I went through my Palm Centro stage after the TH55. It was hard to use Graffiti on that device, even with GA installed.


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