What do you think the PS3 and Revolution will cost?

[poissonsouriant]

Microsoft has already announced the price for their system, accessories, and games. What do you think Sony and Nintendo will do? Will Nintendo's really cool controller bring a really big price tag? Just what did Kutaragi mean when he said the PS3 would be "expensive"?

Here are my predictions. The Xbox 360 prices are included, just for comparisons.

System

Xbox 360: $299 or $399. Most people will get the $399 model, and those that get the core bundle will also get a memory card, as it's needed for almost eery game. Thus the $299 price is a little misleading.

Playstation 3: Anywhere from $399 to $449. Sony has repeated said that the PS3 would expensive, and it's been reported that the RSX (GPU), the Cell (CPU), and the Blu-Ray Drive are all going to cost Sony $100 each per system. Also, it has no memory for storing game saves, so you'll need a memory card. Fortunately, it will be compatible with CF, SD, and Memory Stick (Duo and otherwise), so it's more likely that you've got one lying around.

Nintendo Revolution: Anywhere from $249 to $299. Everyone wants Nintendo to come in with a $199 system, but what with all the amazing technology in the Revolution and its controller, that seems unlikely to me. Nintendo can come in at $249 dollars and still be the cheapest of the lot. Heck, it will be a bargain compared with the PS3.

Games

Xbox 360: $59. You don't believe me, check at Gamestop. Higher development costs for this generation have made games more costly to produce. This is why....

Playstation 3: $59 to $69. By all accounts, the PS3 is a very hard system to develop for. As a result, the games will cost more.

Revolution: $49. Nintendo won't go too low in this generation, and they'll still be the cheapest.

Peripherals

Xbox 360:
Controller: $39. No surprises here. More expensive than controllers of this generation, but still reasonable.
Headset: $19. Quite reasonable, actually.
Remote Control: $29. Not bad, but a little expensive for a universal remote.
Memory Card: $39. A terrible deal for only 64MB of storage.

Playstation 3
Controller: $39. There is nothing extraordinary about the PS3's Controller, thus it shouldn't be too expensive.
Headset: $29. Just like this generation. There's no need for there to be anything fancy.
Memory Card: Varies. Since it uses standard memory card formats, large amounts of storage can be had for very little price. One of the PS3's strengths.

Revolution.
Controller: $49 to $59. For the basic free-hand controller. It will come with whatever attachments the one that comes with the system comes with, probably just the "nunchaku" attachment. Nintendo's controller is so advanced and so filled with technology that it will definitely be expensive. Because of its complexity, I doubt we'll see many third party knock-offs, so expect to pay through the nose if you want your friends to play.
Controller attachments: Anywhere from $10 to $100. We will probably see third party nunchaku and classic controller attachments as low as $10-$30 dollars. I imagine Nintendo-made attachments will cost at least $20. We may also really complicated, huge attachments that cost as much as $100.
Memory Card: Has internal flash memory, so you won't need a card right off. By the time Revolution releases, you'll probably be able to add 512MB of SD memory for only $30.
DVD Attachment: $25-$30. Nintendo has said that the Revolution will play DVD movies, but you need a small attachment. This will probably also come with a remote control.

Please keep in mind these are only predictions.

[JackAxe]

You've put toooo much thought into this. :p

I'm for $199 on the Nintendo. They already mentioned they're not including the higher HD support, and as you alread pointed out the DVD attatchment is an addition. Just a tid-bit, my friend who manages at different GameCrazys, said that the GameCube was originally slated to be $149 for the release, but was raised to $199 after the XB released at its higher price.

I don't think Nintendo will sell their controllers for more than $30, even with the same attachments that come with the system. I'm guessing $24.99, or the same as the GC controllers when they were released. But then again, they'll probably sell just the remote and anologue attatchment for $24.99, and then the standard controler shell for $14 bucks and that would add up to the price you mentioned.


Besides the Nintendo DS and an SD card, what kind of accessory would Nintendo sell for up near $100? I can't see them going beyond $20 - $30 for any controller extra, but I won't know for sure until next year of course. I would expect some 3rd party accessory producer to make an expensive attachment, but not N.

Now how much will it cost when an X360 freezes during its first day of play; Priceless. :p

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[Ezikial Anta]

Nintendy already stated they plan to get this as cheap as they can because they think it will appeal to the casual hardcore and non gamer alike. I say anywhere from 149 to 199.

[At that price, it really would be a Revolution]

[poissonsouriant]

You've put toooo much thought into this. :p

I'm for $199 on the Nintendo. They already mentioned they're not including the higher HD support, and as you alread pointed out the DVD attatchment is an addition. Just a tid-bit, my friend who manages at different GameCrazys, said that the GameCube was originally slated to be $149 for the release, but was raised to $199 after the XB released at its higher price.


I don't think so. The controller will be much more expensive than that of the Gamecube, for starters. Nintendo has also stated that when you plug the Revolution and another next-gen system into a standard TV, you won't be able to see much of difference. To do that, Nintendo is going to have to at least come somewhat close in hardware specs. Remember, Microsoft and Sony are selling for around $400, and are still showing huge losses. Nintendo always sells at a profit, so if they're even close, $199 might not be doable. $249 is more likely in my opinion.

Gameboy Advance launched in June of 2001 for $99. If we follow your logic, then the Nintendo DS should have launched for $99 as well, despite it's greatly advanced technology and innovative new input devices. Yet it launched at $149, and still manages to beat the PSP ($249) to this day. As I said, Nintendo can launch the Revolution at $249 (maybe $299 and include a second controller?) and still beat the PS3 and X360 which are $299 and up.

I don't think Nintendo will sell their controllers for more than $30, even with the same attachments that come with the system. I'm guessing $24.99, or the same as the GC controllers when they were released. But then again, they'll probably sell just the remote and anologue attatchment for $24.99, and then the standard controler shell for $14 bucks and that would add up to the price you mentioned.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Nintendo's controller is more complicated to make than the Gamecube controllers; there is technology in the controller not present in any previous controller.

In fact, the few mice on the market with similar technology are really expensive.

Besides the Nintendo DS and an SD card, what kind of accessory would Nintendo sell for up near $100? I can't see them going beyond $20 - $30 for any controller extra, but I won't know for sure until next year of course. I would expect some 3rd party accessory producer to make an expensive attachment, but not N. When I discussed Controller attachments, I mentioned third party accessories. I said we would have $10 attachments from the brands that make really cheap controllers now. I also meant that the really expensive stuff would be from third parties; they would be specialized controllers for specialized games. You know that flight game that came with the huge, 100-or-so button instrument panel for a controller? That's the sort of thing I was thinking of when I said that third party attachments might be as much as $100. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Now how much will it cost when an X360 freezes during its first day of play; Priceless. :p

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I should have known better than to speak of the Revolution in anything less than glowing terms. :p

[JackAxe]

Just bookmark this thread and will compare next year. :p

Once Nintendo set its own price bracket, they've alwasys done what was needed to keep their products in that range, and would not introduce new tech, if it pushed the price beyond that range. Look at the GB/A. Nintendo updated their screens only as market value allowed. The Nintendo 64's controller was a new concept to the market, with the the whole "rumble-attachment" digital/analogue orgy, and it wasn't expensive. And speaking of the N64, even with its custom SGI power, which was a huge jump at the time, it was introduced for only $199.

And about the Nintendo DS and my logic; Nintendo has already stated that the DS is "not" a Gameboy replacement/update. It's a completely new portable line. They were even hesitant to include GBA compatibility at first. They've also mentioned that a newer GB will be released in the future, so if that updated model sells for above $99, then you can say nyaa-nyaaa-nyaaa. But just to be a contradiction monkey; The first GB sold for $109 US. :o

Most of Nintendo's controller is based on tech that has been around since the dawn of video games. The only thing that's truly new IMO, is that this will be the first time all of these different techs have been merged together to form one all-mighty-synergy controller.

Are ye speaking of these 3D mice;
http://www.3dconnexion.com/index.php

If so, these are fully programmable pressure senstive uber-presicion devices that target a niche market, so they warrant their price. And just to rant; THESE TURKEYS stated OS X drivers would be released earlier this year, yet nothing. I REALLY WANT ONE OF THESE FREAKING THINGS!!! OS X accounts for 25+% of Maya's user base. *grumbles.*

Anyways, come next year, we will finally know. There have already been rumors that the Revolution will sell for $99. But for $249, Nintendo better be selling it with a second controller as you mentioned and some Pokemon shootem death game. :)

According to this price, we're all wrong; :)
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?products_id=6998&likref=froogle1

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[poissonsouriant]

Just bookmark this thread and will compare next year. :p

Once Nintendo set its own price bracket, they've alwasys done what was needed to keep their products in that range, and would not introduce new tech, if it pushed the price beyond that range. Look at the GB/A. Nintendo updated their screens only as market value allowed. The Nintendo 64's controller was a new concept to the market, with the the whole "rumble-attachment" digital/analogue orgy, and it wasn't expensive. And speaking of the N64, even with its custom SGI power, which was a huge jump at the time, it was introduced for only $199.

And about the Nintendo DS and my logic; Nintendo has already stated that the DS is "not" a Gameboy replacement/update. It's a completely new portable line. They were even hesitant to include GBA compatibility at first. They've also mentioned that a newer GB will be released in the future, so if that updated model sells for above $99, then you can say nyaa-nyaaa-nyaaa. But just to be a contradiction monkey; The first GB sold for $109 US. :o

Most of Nintendo's controller is based on tech that has been around since the dawn of video games. The only thing that's truly new IMO, is that this will be the first time all of these different techs have been merged together to form one all-mighty-synergy controller.

Are ye speaking of these 3D mice;
http://www.3dconnexion.com/index.php

If so, these are fully programmable pressure senstive uber-presicion devices that target a niche market, so they warrant their price. And just to rant; THESE TURKEYS stated OS X drivers would be released earlier this year, yet nothing. I REALLY WANT ONE OF THESE FREAKING THINGS!!! OS X accounts for 25+% of Maya's user base. *grumbles.*

Anyways, come next year, we will finally know. There have already been rumors that the Revolution will sell for $99. But for $249, Nintendo better be selling it with a second controller as you mentioned and some Pokemon shootem death game. :)

According to this price, we're all wrong; :)
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?products_id=6998&likref=froogle1

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The DS is part of the GameBoy line, no matter what Nintendo says. Both are portable systems made by Nintendo. The DS even plays GameBoy Advance games. The comparisons by consumers are inevitable, even if Nintendo doesn't want it. This is also why the Revolution will have to compete with the PS3 and X360, even though Nintendo may say they're not in the same market as them. They will inevitably, and perhaps unfairly, be lumped into the same category as the PS3 and the X360.

I will buy a Nintendo Revolution, even if it's $500. But it WON'T be $99. That's what they're selling the GameCube for now. If that's true, the power of the Revolution won't be anywhere near the X360 or PS3. Heck, it might barely be better than the GameCube. While graphics and power aren't as important as Sony and Microsoft would have you believe, they are important.

The market will allow them to have better tech this time. Microsoft and Sony have gone super expensive in their systems, so Nintendo can have a little bump in price and still look darn cheap compared with their competitors.

Here's a comparison. For example, if you want to get an Xbox 360 and a game, you would need $300 for the core system, $60 for the game, and and another $30 for a memory card so you can save. You can play a single Xbox 360 game and save it for $390.

If you go with Nintendo, you spend much less. $250 for the system, $50 for the game, you don't need a memory card (512MB built-in). That's $300, and you can also play online (free) and possibly download old game to play (some of them might be free).

Even with the system at $250, it still looks like a much better deal. We all know Nintendo's all about making profits, and this would make them a lot of money.

I'd love for the Revolution to be $199, but I don't think it will.

[JackAxe]

The DS is part of the GameBoy line, no matter what Nintendo says. Both are portable systems made by Nintendo. The DS even plays GameBoy Advance games. The comparisons by consumers are inevitable, even if Nintendo doesn't want it. This is also why the Revolution will have to compete with the PS3 and X360, even though Nintendo may say they're not in the same market as them. They will inevitably, and perhaps unfairly, be lumped into the same category as the PS3 and the X360.

I understand where you're going, but as I already mentioned Nintendo was hesitant to include GBA compatibility with the DS at first. Fortunately they did though, because it probably saved the DS during its dry spell. No where on my DS box does it say it's a GameBoy. It can't play GameBoy or GameBoy Color games on it. (Not counting emulation of course.) I can't connect it to a GBA and play multiplay GBA games, nor can I connect it to a GameCube and play its GB compatible titles. And as I already mentioned, Nintendo will be releasing a GameBoy sucessor. I've heard dates of 2006 for a release, but that's all rumors. The DS falls into the Nintendo portable category, and does share some traits with a GameBoy, but it is in its own class. I wouldn't mind if I were a true GB successor though, since I would like to be able to do some of the things I mentioned with it.


I will buy a Nintendo Revolution, even if it's $500. But it WON'T be $99. That's what they're selling the GameCube for now. If that's true, the power of the Revolution won't be anywhere near the X360 or PS3. Heck, it might barely be better than the GameCube. While graphics and power aren't as important as Sony and Microsoft would have you believe, they are important.

Tis why I noted rumors. :p If they released it at that price, peeps would probably think there was something wrong with it. :) These are more rumors of course, but here's the basic specs I was sent on 9-24 by a friend, and have been floating around the web in slight variations;

PowerPC running at 2.5Ghz(2 threads) 256kb L1, 1MB l2, 512 RAM.
PPU 32 RAM (If this is true, then the Revolution could easily best the PS3 and X360 in many areas.)
ATI GPU based on teh RN520 600Mhz 256 RAM It would be able to handle HD, even if Nintendo didn't officially support it.)

Once again, all rumors. :)



The market will allow them to have better tech this time. Microsoft and Sony have gone super expensive in their systems, so Nintendo can have a little bump in price and still look darn cheap compared with their competitors.

Here's a comparison. For example, if you want to get an Xbox 360 and a game, you would need $300 for the core system, $60 for the game, and and another $30 for a memory card so you can save. You can play a single Xbox 360 game and save it for $390.

If you go with Nintendo, you spend much less. $250 for the system, $50 for the game, you don't need a memory card (512MB built-in). That's $300, and you can also play online (free) and possibly download old game to play (some of them might be free).

Even with the system at $250, it still looks like a much better deal. We all know Nintendo's all about making profits, and this would make them a lot of money.

I'd love for the Revolution to be $199, but I don't think it will.

Just wait until it's released. You could be right, but you could be wrong. I'm not stating that $250 is a bad price, especially when compared to the others, but it kind of goes against Nintendo's basic pricing scheme; (So no game, and no extra controller.)

NES $199 (http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/nes.htm)
SNES $200 (http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/snes.htm)
N64 $199 (http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/n64.htm)
GameCube $199 (http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/gc.htm)

I'll own my Revolution, no matter what the cost, but Nintendo is taking measure to make it more affordable.

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