Will the lack of Fitaly make you not buy a TX?

[Jimmie Geddes]

I wrote this more as a response, but I am wondering if people would really not buy it due to this?
http://www.gadgetsonthego.net/2005/10/fitaly-no-more-for-palm-os.html

[dragonsgames]

I doubt if it will matter :)

[Jimmie Geddes]

I am doing a poll:)

[applejosh]

It wouldn't keep me from buying it specifically, but it is an unfortunate sign of Palm developers throwing in the towel. As mentioned, probably due to undocumented changes and stuff that recent Palm devices seem to have. A shame, really.

[aspidoras]

So has anyone tried FitalyVirtual T3 on the T|X? Is it official that it does not work on this device? Or only future devices beyond the T|X? I have a trial version on my T5 and I'm finally getting used to it. I would like to know before I buy this program and then try to use it on the T|X.

[Cyker]

It wouldn't keep me from buying it specifically, but it is an unfortunate sign of Palm developers throwing in the towel. As mentioned, probably due to undocumented changes and stuff that recent Palm devices seem to have. A shame, really.

Well they did say that if Palm kept screwing them over in the API they'd stop supporting them... I guess that's the case :(

[JAmerican]

I won't buy it now. I was going to consider trying Fitaly but since its gone, I'm not even going to consider the TX now. Sad. Palm's sooo stupid. Just work with your Third-party devs. They always working against them.

JAmerican

[LupeValenz]

Its a lil crazy to not use a PDA because of one app. There are always alternative :D. Because CO doesn't work on Palms, I go to Agendus, decuma doesn't work with TX but that made me found MessagEase. Now if they made me FORCE to use but one app for inpute *graffiti* then yeah, I wouldn't buy it egh :(

[Leddy]

Dunno about you guys, but i like writing onto my handheld much better than poking it with a finger. Writing seems more natural.

[tk_421]

They said months ago that they would not be supporting the LifeDrive, and just look at their site now. Lifedrive support was added.


The TX will be a very succesful device, and I strongly doubt that they will pass up on this market. It might take them a couple of months, but I am convinced that they will release it someday. In the meantime, they are trying to put pressure on Palm.


Palms have such a beautiful GUI, but goes to show that this is nt an indication of just how messy the OS can be inside. Time to ditch FrankenGarnet for Cobalt? Something tells me this would be worse.


I am getting the TX for sure. There's no way I am getting a messy PPC. Tried them, hated them. Screen refresh rate on a handheld? Little turning clock? Yuck! I'll deal with the limitations of Palms until some japanese company embraces PalmOS again. And it will happen, that's sure. We might have to wait for Plinux for that to happen though, so give it two years.


The TX is simply the best handheld on the market for me. The LD is too slow and too unstable (also too thick), PPCs are just an ugly mess. and Clies are gone. Evn then, the UX's screen is way too small for me. I just accepted not to have a keyboard on my handheld, and bought the infrared keyboard from Palm, a thing of beauty.


I will always agree with Jamerican on this. The general populace will never get into Palms because they don't have keyboards. This scares most people off. Many people don't even know that you can enter text on a Palm, believe it or not! This is the reason why I had kept away from them all this time. A sliding keyboard device would sell like hotcakes, I am sure of that. I personally wouldn't buy it since thumbboards can damage thumbs, but many people would start using PDAs because of them. Smartphones with keyboards are the hottest thing now. Why wouldn't the same thing be true of handhelds? Because they are mostly selling to a niche market, people who have already found "other ways".


Trust me, when mini tablet PCs are released (NOT in 2007, don't trust gates on that, it will take longer), trust me, they will come with a detachable keyboard. Tablet PCs are starting to go mainstream now because they have adopted the convertible notebook/slate format. A clamshell design would make a Palm too thick, but the slider solves that problem.

[Jimmie Geddes]

Textware is just trying to stick it to Palm. For anyone to say that they won't get a TX because of this 1 app is ridiculous.
As to Jamerican, who are you kidding you considered the TX. We know how passionate you are about keyboard devices.:)

[rpankratz]

The T|X / FITALY situation is over stated.

The situation is the same as it was on the T|5 the silkscreen doesn't install correctly. Grab a copy of SkinDia and you can make a silksreen that works just fine with the T|5 version of FITALY. This weekend I'll post a prebuilt colbalt like FITALY skin file on my website for those that can't figure it out for themselves......

-ratz.

[vta]

I understand Fitaly's frustration BUT I hope Fitaly will think about their customers (instead of PALM) ! and not punish the ones who are loyal to Fitaly and pay for their product.

Hope you (Fitaly guys, who rock) are able to do this for us. Do the work, we will buy.

Signed,


Your Customers.

[Jimmie Geddes]

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

[joelong]

. . . decuma doesn't work with TX but that made me found MessagEase.

I've tried to install MessagEase 1.7.6 on my Palm TX, but when I hit Done, I keep getting the following error message: "Unable to install MEST skin. MoveDatabase Error Code:537." Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Update: Okay, I communicated with www.exideas.com, the maker of MessagEase. Here's their response: "Thanks for your interest. We are trying to fix that problem (ETA about a week to ten days!). Meanwhile, you can use MessagEasST + MySkin combination to get by."

[Brjlk]

I wrote this more as a response, but I am wondering if people would really not buy it due to this?

After trying Fitaly, Message Ease, Decuma & Graffiti Anywhere, I finally decided to purchase MobileWrite
http://www.inkmarksoftware.com/page2.html

It gives you 3 options:
Handwriting recognition
Graffiti 1
Graffiti 2.

Compared to Message Ease, Decuma & Fitaly, it does not take space on the screen.
MobileWrite can get auto activated when it senses a text field. Very practical when you work with an app. which enters bth text & graphics like Leonardo.

I don't know if it works with the TX, but it is updated regularly.

John

[Scott R]

For all you TX owners out there...please give my virtual thumbboard app (http://www.tapland.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5562) a try. I beamed it over to a display model TX and confirmed that it seemed to work OK, though I haven't been able to test it extensively. It's free to use during the open beta phase.

[JAmerican]

Textware is just trying to stick it to Palm. For anyone to say that they won't get a TX because of this 1 app is ridiculous.
As to Jamerican, who are you kidding you considered the TX. We know how passionate you are about keyboard devices.:)

Actually, I was considering it and I am again. If I can find a keyboard solution that works, why not use it. I dislike Graffiti 2 while writing out long papers. It annoying. I never tried Fitaly because it isn't for landscape devices. I'm also considering a WM device for I've never used one fully as my own device.

I'm really confused on which device to upgrade to. :(

JAmerican

[mikeux50]

For all you TX owners out there...please give my virtual thumbboard app (http://www.tapland.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5562) a try. I beamed it over to a display model TX and confirmed that it seemed to work OK, though I haven't been able to test it extensively. It's free to use during the open beta phase.


hey I love this program - the only thing is that when I bring it up it like flickers and then stabilizes. Is there any way to not make it flicker when you launch it?

[JAmerican]

hey I love this program - the only thing is that when I bring it up it like flickers and then stabilizes. Is there any way to not make it flicker when you launch it?

Mike, how do you like the TX compared to the UX. Tell me all the details. Anything you noticed that you liked/disliked.

Thanks.

[technical1]

JAmerican & Joelong,

I've been using MEST 1.7_7_ for the TX since it came out (& that goes for MySkin)
& they both work quite well on my TX.

The ease of access (yes, there is a learning curve for this input system; but it is
well worth it), & added functionality like macro capability & saving text to memory locations & did I mention ease of access - to the extended characters.

The author is very responsive & there is a Yahoo forum for support of the app.

[mikeux50]

Mike, how do you like the TX compared to the UX. Tell me all the details. Anything you noticed that you liked/disliked.

Thanks.

Okay, I was actually thinking of posting something for you to help you make the switch before lol.

Well I have to say that I loved the UX very much. I loved the design and the landscape orientation and most of all the keyboard. After a while though I found myself not even using it because of the battery... it sucked! I tried your mod with the usb cradle and the semmons battery pack - but who wants to carry that around with them? And so it just sat there being unused because If I tried to do anything besides PIM apps I could literally just watch the battery bar go down as I used it. So thats the only thing I have against it really -- And that was enough for me to make the switch.

As for the TX, coming from the UX I am very pleased with it so far. The battery life is excellent and the screen is so much bigger. I find myself using it alot because of the battery life. I have had some crashes with it but nothing that bad really. I do miss the keyboard of the UX but if I really wanted a keyboard then I would just get that palmone universal keyborad (or maybe some other brand). Thats also why I'm interested in this virtual keyboard -- looks like something I would use if the bugs were worked out in it :D . Another thing coming from the UX that I find I cannot live without is the 5-way nav and all 4 buttons. I hated how the UX only had 3 and they were in such an akward spot for playing games... But that 5-nav is great, I wouldnt get another device that didnt have it...

So basically, I am very pleased with the TX and would not only recommend it to you but also to anyone else that is thinking of switching over -- it really is a great device. So, I hope this helped you and I hope to see you on this part of the forum :D

[wid4008]

I installed Fitaly T3 with Lifedrive skin and it is working perfectly fine on my Chinese version TX.

[technical1]

MikeUX50,

Did you see my prev post about MessagEase 1.77 working very well on my TX,
or were you talking about a fix for the Fitaly on the LD?

[pruss]

Fitaly should work on the TX with my free SkinLoad loader as soon as I release it. As it is, you can use the LD or T3 version's skin via mySkin.

[mikeux50]

MikeUX50,

Did you see my prev post about MessagEase 1.77 working very well on my TX,
or were you talking about a fix for the Fitaly on the LD?


I was talking about scotts virtual thumbboard app... its pretty cool except for the fact that I get thumbprints all over my screen :D But I really do like it - it reminds me of my old UX thumbboard

[Scott R]

Mike, thanks for the kind words. If you're going to be a heavy user, you definitely want to use one of the anti-glare screen protectors as they are great at not showing fingerprints. The ultraclear-style screen protectors, on the other hand, are fingerprint magnets.

As for the flickering, I think I know what you're referring to and I think it has to do with HB++'s not-so-great built-in support for full-screen 480x320 apps. HB++ is the RAD development tool I developed the thumbboard app with. BTW, I've had very little free time over the last few months, so this app has gone without an update in a long while, but I'm still planning on improving it.