View Full Version : NX vs. Tungsten T vs. Pocket PC
04-03-2003, 11:39 AM
Not that I want to start a flame war, but I have with me a T|T and I'm comparing it to my NX60 and it doesn't compare... the TT display basically sucks big time when compared to the NX side by side... not closely as crisp... the white background looks yellowish at full brightness and overall looks cheap... sure the CLIE has its issues but just staring at the display is a big difference.
I also got to play with a friend's iPaq a few days ago... a bit interesting with the builtin wireless stuff... but regarding its usability I have to admit that I have been extremely spoiled by sony's high resolution display. I can't stand even 5 minutes staring at the displays of both the TT and the iPaq without thinking how much they suck compared to the NX display. Also the jog dial thing... I really became adicted to it... I even pressed the voice memo button in the TT by mistake.. and last but not least... the wow factor... the NX beats them hands down.
This is a subjective comparison rather than a technical one, from a usability point of view... don't care about how much RAM or MHz one has or the other doesn't...
Once you get to the reality distortion field of the clie, you can't get out... I won't be looking back when I buy my next PDA in a year or so... a CLIE sure it is :D
04-03-2003, 02:23 PM
Gee, I could have told you that :D!
04-03-2003, 02:36 PM
I love my TT, it does everything for me. More then my NR70v ever did. :)
04-03-2003, 03:18 PM
I just purchased the NX70V based on the same comparison.
I liked the screen much better on the clie than on the Tungsten, although the T is much smaller.
The PPC OS is not as simple as Palm's. That is a selling point or deterrent, depending on your needs.
I've had three Clies prior to this and three PPC devices. While the iPaqs were slick and the smaller PPC HP 1910 (?) was tempting for me, Palm's simplicity and Sony's Quality won out.
04-03-2003, 03:29 PM
I too am smitten with the absolute beauty of my NX70V. I was very unimpressed with the Tungsten T. In my opinion it is very cheap looking. The milky plastic does can not even try to compete with the sleek magnesium of the NX. The display on the TT is very disappointing, the sound quality--lacking, even with the sound update. Performance wise the NX spanks the crap out of the TT. The TT likely does have its advantages. This is a completely subjective opinion. But, despite my increasing disdain for Sony, I am completely spoiled for any other existing PDAs. :D
04-03-2003, 03:34 PM
I had the same exact decision, and tried them all including a TG50. They are all great devices, but cannot hold a candle to the screen on the NX series. I even switched from a TG50 to a NX70V for the screen.
04-03-2003, 03:46 PM
The only PDA I ever used was a PPC a few years back. I got no prob with the OS as it is fairly intuitive for power computer users like me. I just recently got back into the PDA scene with my NX70v. To me the OS factor was not the determining thing. It is like OS X vs XP Pro, both are good, to each his own. I chose the NX70v because after a TON of research and fiddling around it was the superior piece of hardware. If it had run PPC OS I would have still got it. My only real complaint is that Sony has such a high-end device with no built-in wireless.
04-03-2003, 03:49 PM
I think the display is the biggest selling point for the NX then...
04-03-2003, 04:09 PM
I agree. I used the NR70V way back (last year!), and loved the screen. That is one thing the Sony models have over their competition is their gorgeous screens. Some of them have problems with dead pixels though ;-).
04-03-2003, 04:35 PM
the tt case is not plastic. Its some sort of metal shell, not plastic.
04-03-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Macabre Man
the tt case is not plastic. Its some sort of metal shell, not plastic.
Yeah, I don't know where he got plastic from.... maybe thinking of the Zire?
Anyways, my complaint of the T|T is the side lit screen. They should stop with the side lit screens and step up to the back lit ones like the rest of the PDA world.
04-03-2003, 09:20 PM
How yucky, being side lit :(!
When you have the best, why look at the rest... ?
04-03-2003, 09:33 PM
Side lit screens look better when there is lots of stray light around as they're more reflective than backlit ones (the backlight, by design, needs to be reasonably dark in color for some reason). Certainly, in bright sunlight the Toshiba PDAs with their sidelit screens are still reasonably clear (and I'd imagine the same would be the case for the iPaq) but my NX70V is pretty useless ...
But hey, we're computer geeks, how often do we see the sun anyway :D
04-03-2003, 09:34 PM
Regarding the T|T, I thought there was a general gripe about the slider being plastic and getting loose ...
My only 2 gripes regarding the NX case would have to be the finish on the camera (the 'silvery' coating on the rotating camera bit has worn off in patches on mine so it looks pretty poor right now ... I'll just wait for it to all wear off so it looks 'consistent' again) and the plastic cover over the top of the screen near the hinge, where the silver color is also wearing off ...
04-03-2003, 09:45 PM
the T/T is not plastic, but it feels like it. It's to light and the slider is to plastic feeling. NX is a much better, period.
04-03-2003, 10:00 PM
T|T stands for a Ton of Turds! Come on Palm, get better screen technology! Reflective is old technology, get Transflective!
04-03-2003, 10:59 PM
i almost fall for the screen once.....but then i realize that if i got the best screen ever but i wouldn`t even use it or carry it around...it will be a total waste....i don`t buy things like these just for fun you know......heard the terms `why pocket was invented in the first place` yes so that u can carry small thing in your pocket...and the nx does not fit your pocket....i used my pda for mainly pims.....snes....nes...short movies...mp3 via earphones...if i want to hear better sound quality my altech lansing speaker is the man....as people say it...don`t expect a full blown pc from a pda because it wasn`t design for that in the first place...currently own hp1910
04-03-2003, 11:03 PM
My NX fits in my pocket just fine. I often forget it's in there. It's great to reach in there and find it, even though I don't notice it when I'm just walking around. My NX has really become a part of me, and extension of me. It is something I always have with me that I use a lot. Much like my wallet. I know this doesn't contribute to the original question, but I just wanted to give my thoughts on the size of the NX. For me, it is very pocketable.
04-04-2003, 12:04 AM
well...i`ll respect you for that...for my part...i can`t help noticing the pda in my pants even for the 1910....it was such a bulk...but hey it is one of the smallest pocket pc in town so i shouldn`t complain to much....what i`m saying is that they should make pda much smaller in term of thickness but if possible with extended batery life with moderate processing power as a ballance for the battery life...or a built in handphone with so that`ll reduce the bulkiness in my pants MUCH...the o2 xda is ok still the thickness is not to my liking....well...for the nx...maybe i`ll consider it if it have the power of a notebook because of it size...the form factor it self sure looks like a notebook to me;)
04-04-2003, 12:07 AM
not to forget the great big sony screen of course.....
Well, the TT is nice. But like my friend said: it looks cheap, like plastic(and he is no Comp geek so has only eyes for the design). When I held firstly the TT is was clear not to buy it. It seemed not like a tank tome- just like others say in their official reviews(in some magazines)n although I ew it was titan! What I can't understand: every table shows the TT superior to the Clie. Mostly the NX ranks in erd or 4th position the TT on 2nd always and a PPC first place! Why is the TT better? The TT has more processing power, I know there stands only 153MHZ but it has a second chip supporting it so it get's about 220-230MHz. But all of them forget one thing: in reality the multi-purpose capabilities, WLAN, the bigger screen and the better casing make a ease of use far more likely than any other PDA. If I were dependend on Bluetooth I sticked to the TT for it has it inbuilt. For business TT, it IS smaller. But every other area the NX stands out of the crowd.
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