I know it's fake. But it's so cool!

[poissonsouriant]

http://www.student.gsu.edu/~abearden2/nesrevo.jpg

If Nintendo has a Revolution with this paint job, I'm getting it.

[NX70BOY]

oh that is cool!

[JackAxe]

That is cooool. I hope Nintendo does do something like that.

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[jjesusfreak01]

That is cooool. I hope Nintendo does do something like that.

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You'll have to beat me to them. I will buy them all, mwah ha ha!!!

That does look pretty cool. The revolution might actually be a revolution if Nintendo would have actually made it support HD formats, and it seems now that it will not. 720p at least, FCOL, while the PS3 will be skipping along at 1080p easily, and the Xbox will run at 1080i. No, it seems that when we get our "Revolutions", we will be locked down to the fun resolution of 480p. But, as Nintendo says, it isnt about graphics, they have found a way to plug our minds directly into the system, and they will offer us free gaming for life if we agree to be used as human batteries and put ourselves into their simulated world.

Seriously though, the lack of and HD output is just plain disappointing. There are very hard limits to how good a non HD picture can look. 1080p is going to be pretty darn cool though. I have only actually seen one TV that could handle that resolution (I know there are more now), but that was 5 years ago. The precursor to this model (http://mitsubishi-tv.com/televisions/details.asp?id=94).

Edit: I have actually seen that TV in person. It is huge, and though at the time (and still) they dont have a video feed to do it justice, it looked really nice.

[poissonsouriant]

You know, Ms. Pac-Man wasn't in HD, and it's still better than a lot of the games on the market today.

I don't have an HDTV, and unless the prices take a serious drop in the next year (meaning that they won't cost too much more than a normal TV), I won't be getting one. There is only a very small, very rich percentage of the market that have an HDTV and will be able to see the full resolution of the PS3 and the X360.

My Gamecube, Xbox, and PS2 all look pretty darn good on my normal TV, and I feel confident that my Revolution, PS3, and maybe even one day my Xbox 360 will look good as well.

People made a big deal about online multiplayer in the last generation. Nintendo didn't have it in the GameCube, and while they suffered a little, they still seem to be doing fine. However, to not include it in the Revolution would be folly. My guess is that whatever follows the Revolution will be HD equipped, as by that time, more people will have upgraded and more people will be able to make use of it.

That having been said, I would gladly use an HDTV if I had one.

[JackAxe]

There was a thread about this topic a few months back, where were you? ;)

I'm pretty happy with the few games that I run at 2560x1600 on my Mac, but sitting around a standard TV with games like Mario Party is always a blast. And I have played it along with other GC games stretched to 1080i on my friends HD and they looked fine.

None of the new consoles are truly capable of handling HD at the detail level of a PC, especially at 1080i. If you truly want hi-rez that looks good, you'll need to stick with a computer. According to feedback from developers, the X360 and PS3 are only about twice as fast as a P3 733, and about a 3rd of a P4's performance. I call that a dissapointment. It's definately not enough to handle HD at he level Sony and MS BSed about.

http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154333&threshold=0&commentsort=1&tid=126&tid=137&tid=10&mode=thread&cid=12950734

Nintendo is only doing what it needs to keep cost down on their new console and not under-deliver on their promises like Sony and MS. As long as they continue to produce high-quality games that are unique to their system and are fun, I don't really care if the system is 1080i or 480, or 240x160.

By the time HD is truly affordable, actually "looks good" and has matured, Nintendo will be introducing their next-gen console and by then they'll also include physics engines and other goodies that have become common place on PCs. Nintendo has never lied about their consoles like Sony and MS, and have alwasy been able to deliver. HD is still in its adolescence and has a few years to go.

Nintendo could also include an expansion slot similar to what was found on the N64. This would allow them to keep initial cost down, and then later when HD is pretty much the norm, sell an upgrade.

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[poissonsouriant]

The honest truth is that most of the target audience for Xbox and PS3 (teenage boys) do not completely know what HD is. They'll just use it to brag to their friends. They'll be all like, "Yeah, my Playstation 3 can output two 1080p streams simultaneously" and their friends will say, "What does that mean?" And they'll reply "It means it has better graphics! Duh!". Then they'll go home and play it on their 15-year old RCA and think to themselves, "HD is sweet!!!!!"

[poissonsouriant]

Nintendo could also include an expansion slot similar to what was found on the N64. This would allow them to keep initial cost down, and then later when HD is pretty much the norm, sell an upgrade.

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We all know how well that worked on the N64. ;)

[JackAxe]

Can't forget the teenage kids that brag about the HD their daddy(s) bought. They'll talk smack about it all day, only to go home to an old RCA as you mentioned, because dad will be using the HD for this own entertainment. :)

Speaking of old, the 27" Magnavox in my office here is about 15 years old. :D Sometimes the screen will darken and turn red. The only fix is to turn it off, then on again. I'm going to replace it with the quarter-ton Trinitron 36" in the front-room when I finally upgrade to a HD, I'm just waiting for LLOCD to become the norm, since it's the next step in visual stimulation. Bleh, yeah right. :)

Nintendo totally underestimated the memory's value. But I was able to find one that holiday shopping season. :)

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[T-Man]

Pac-Man almost makes it to my top 1 list :) but Halo 2 is number 1 :):)

[poissonsouriant]

Wow, it took a surprisingly long time for T-Man to interject with something about the Xbox.:D

JackAxe, that's your cue to use the word "festering". :D

[T-Man]

I was waiting for the right moment :)

[T-Man]

Did you accept my friend request? I havemt been on there in a couple o' days...

[jjesusfreak01]

Can't forget the teenage kids that brag about the HD their daddy(s) bought. They'll talk smack about it all day, only to go home to an old RCA as you mentioned, because dad will be using the HD for this own entertainment. :)

Speaking of old, the 27" Magnavox in my office here is about 15 years old. :D Sometimes the screen will darken and turn red. The only fix is to turn it off, then on again. I'm going to replace it with the quarter-ton Trinitron 36" in the front-room when I finally upgrade to a HD, I'm just waiting for LLOCD to become the norm, since it's the next step in visual stimulation. Bleh, yeah right. :)

Nintendo totally underestimated the memory's value. But I was able to find one that holiday shopping season. :)

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Speaking of smack. Living with my parents, whenever I say a TV is mine, I really mean it is theirs (for the record). The TV in my basement, a 56in HD Mitsubishi, is not our main TV for viewing (that would be the 46in Samsung HD upstairs), but is the main TV for the NGC, and I must say the Gamecubes picture isnt terribly impressive for that size of a screen. I might just forgive Nintendo if they force developers to natively support 480p (widescreen) on all Revolution games. The NGC only supports it on some games, and since I only own one of those, it really isnt worth it to get the component cable for it. I just have to live thinking that an HD picture sure would be nice.

Anyway, my brother wants an xboxs 360 for Christmas, along with the newer version of Halo 2, so I may end up with an HD enabled console after all.

[T-Man]

He NEEDS an X360 for Christams :) and H2...what do you mean 'newer version'? Theres Halo 2 v1(updated to v1.1 on XBL for some bug fixes etc...) and Halo v1

Timm

[JackAxe]

Bug fixes on a console. I had completely forgot about that, and that was one of the reasons I didn't like the Xbox. I hope that Nintendo developers don't use the download option like other console developers as an excuse to release buggy games. This is supposedly not a PC, there is only one configuration, the games should be in working order before they're released. And now MS has announced that there will be many version of the XBox360; Why? Oh never mind, it's because they're not game consoles, but MS PCs.

jjesusfreak01, talk your brother into gettin a PS3, then he won't need to upgrade in about a year just to play the newer HD games like Halo 3. ;)

Your wish is Nintendo's demand, if my friend was correct, then they've already stated all games will need to be developed at 480 for the Revolution.

As long as the games don't look like vomit, (Rayman DS being an example. Probably one of the worst games I've seen.) then I'm happy. Afterall, if games looked even remotely as good as a non-HD broadcast, my jaw would drop through the floor. :)

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[JackAxe]

Here's another reason to wait for an HD screen; HDCP. Its DRM for HD content, so in order to play the newer videos in a few years, we'll need to buy a new HDCP screen. This is getting ridiculous. They should just sell a box that goes between the HD screen and our player device, basically some type of dongle thingy.

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/hardware/hdcp-vista.ars

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[T-Man]

Jack, dont say that!!! JJF's brother will get a stupid PS[3] and he will die an early death :(:(:( How could you wish something like that on someone!?!?! Bad, Jack, BAD JACK!!!

BTW, there was a vx.1 update because the fans shouted about how they wanted the Plasma Rifle weaker, and the Plasma Pistol and frag grenades more Like Halo's.

:)

[JackAxe]

MS is releasing two X360s at release, are you going to risk compatibility by saving a few hundred and going with the $299 sku? Or are you going to spend a the extra mula for the higher end version? And like I rambled about, MS already said there will be even more versions released over the next 5 years, and you know that there are going to be games released that will include features that only work on these newer XBoxes. Now why even bother wih the XBox? It's not a game machine. The only thing it has going for it is Halo and eventually you'll get burned out on it like I did. Just get a PS3 and you won't be thrown into a continual upgrade loop that MS wants you to be in.

I'm OK with game tweaks like that, and that's one clear advantage of the Xbox. But bugs, no no no, there is absolutely noooo excuse. Its not as if the games are cheaper now days, they cost more to pay for the development cost. And I still find it ironic that games are taking longer to produce, but yet they still lack soooo much when compared to an old game like Systems Shock. Oh, did I already ramble about that game/godsend. :)

This is just pure speculation on my part and I highly doubt it would ever happen, but anyways MS has already announce it will be developing for the Nintendo DS. Now would you buy one(Nintendo) if Halo were released for it? :p Multiplay and the controls on a DS are the best I've ever experience on anything besides a computer.

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[jjesusfreak01]

When I said "new version", I was referring to the version of Halo (2.5, or something like that), that will be released at the same time that will support 1080i with enhanced graphics.

My personal marginally informed opinion is that developers like the xbox360 because it is easier to develop for (it has 3 general purpose processors instead of the 7 special processors that the PS3 has), but the PS3 will have capabilities in some areas surpassing the XBox360, such as with the graphics, and likely that fun DHCP that everyone loves, while the XBox will have no video protection scheme. I want the XBox because it has Halo, but I cant deny that the PS3 is going to be a better system, and will have alot of advanced features. Its just a hard decision to make, but Halo makes the decision a little easier. I still want to see what is so revolutionary about the Revolution before I make any decisions.

[T-Man]

Oh...Halo 2.5 :cool: And, Halo 3 :)

[JackAxe]

And Halo 3.1 won't run on your first rev X360. :p

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[zire102001]

that shape has been around before just added new components and modernized it, as the original Nintendo looked like that with the cartrages. =)

[JackAxe]

That's why we like it. :)

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[strider_mt2k]

I'll say.

That's cool looking!

[T-Man]

What'd I miss? Anyway, I wont be getting a 360 on Nov 4(the first day its released :)), so in that case, its ok if it doesnt work w/ the first 360, plus, wasnt Bungie and M$ wanting to release it the same day as the PS3? And if the PS3 is coming out soon after the X360, then why Wouldnt Halo 3 work with it?

[T-Man]

And Halo 3.1 won't run on your first rev X360. :p

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Oh, this is something else :)......................Yes it will!

[JackAxe]

Nope, you'll need to pay more on your Xbox live account and get "Game Girl's" permission to play Halo 3.1. She doesn't have a clue about games, nor plays them, but she would like to sell you a Halo T-shirt that she designed, and for you to play on the level she created. Afterall it is a community. Now why doesn't that make sense, besides being a ramble from me, because it was Microsoft's lame marketing ploy that they spewed all over their purchased audience in one continuos wave of vomit.

Play Pshchonaughts. Get over Halo! There are better games out there, and more importantly buy a PS3. :)

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[T-Man]

I want to live for many more years and want me death to be peaceful. :) So I'm not gonna buy a PS3!!!!

[JackAxe]

How can you live peacfully knowing that your Microsoft PC will either need to be upgraded, or replaced several times over the next few years?

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[jjesusfreak01]

How can you live peacfully knowing that your Microsoft PC will either need to be upgraded, or replaced several times over the next few years?

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Yeah, and I get to pay for an OS upgrade every 5 months. Anyways, dont use that argument, I am on a 2 1/2 year old Toshiba, and it runs better than my mothers newer laptop (dont tell her I said that). My Mac still runs flash and Java slow, cant run a graphical game if its life depended on it, etc...

The point is, you can always try to attack PCs, and I will always find something bad to say about Macs. Its a futile effort for everyone. Remind me I said that next time I rail against Macs.

[T-Man]

Its not a full PC!

[JackAxe]

Jjesusfreak01, we are talking about game consoles. Haven't you been following this thread? I called the X360 a Microsoft PC, I said nothing "bad" about a standard Windows PC. I'm only calling the X360 a PC, because it will need to be upgraded about as often as a real PC to maintain future compatibility.

First it was HiDef, now Mac vs PC. At least the HiDef thing was in the same boat, but still it was kind of out there since we were only admiring a possible Revolution design.

But just because I'm bored; You've never pointed me to a Flash site that supposedly runs slow on your Powerbook. I'm still waiting! And while I'm waiting for your link, try out this link. (http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/experience/) Once it caches in, it runs great on my 1Ghz Powerbook with a 9000. It hiccups the first time I scroll around, but after that it runs smooth. And as I've said before, the Java games I've played from Yahoo worked great. I prefer Flash for games though, since I develop with it, and it doesn't require the entire game be downloaded then complied in order to run. And stop using FireFox for Flash and Java, It's toooo sloooooooow. If you just switched to Safari full time you wouldn't have that much to gripe about. But I recall you stating you did not like Safari and would not use it? So if this is the case, then you can just continue to suffer with poor performance through Firefox.

(The Above link is for a Flash 8 demo. It will ask you to download the newer player. This player when running properly "optimized" F8 content is literally up to 10 fold faster than F7 content. So even through the slooow FireFox you'll sooooon be experiencing some very nice graphic intesive Flash pieces running smoothly on your 1.5 PB. Flash 8 will be out in September, so it will be at least 2 months before things start appearing besides these early sites.)

You pay for an OS upgrade every 5 months? :eek: How is that even possible? Let's see, either you're very very gullable, or are trying to make just another BS blow towards Apple. JFYI, Panther was released over 2 years ago. So how did you manage upgrades so often on your PB, which shipped with Panther "last year" and was privy to all 10.3x "updates" for free? Tiger was the only ugprade in the past 2.5 years. Where have you been? ;)

Yes you can find bad things to say about Mac, I can also do the same. The PC just has "way" more things to reference. :)

Now back to games... Yep the X360 is exactly what T-Man said. :)

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[jjesusfreak01]

You make my point, I shouldnt have to cache files before they run well, not that it actually helps my Mac any. I'll admit, I probably have a lemon, maybe all Macs dont run as bad as mine. I dont know though. What can I do?

Back to the important stuff, as long as the x360 is nearly bugless at release, I see no problem upgrading the system. The console is designed to be networked, and I have read it will install updates in the background without user intervention. The point is that both of these consoles are going to be really cool. They both run HD natively, and though the PS3 has some killer hardware features, we still dont know everything about it. The XBox360, on the other hand, holds no secrets. It will be fully media enabled, and fully online enabled. It can handle 4 wireless controllers, though Sony's controller implementation is better, IMHO (not even counting the fact it supports 7 wireless). I am pretty sure I would have to say that if Sony got the networking right (we dont know yet), then it would be a better system, but as of now, the XBox rules, plus it is coming out first, and in a world where the platforms are very similar, last is not best. I think Nintendo hopes the revolutionarity of their console will pull it out regardless of its release. And I sure wish Nintendo would tell us what is so revolutionary about their console.

[T-Man]

They are both 'cool' (if you could call the PS3 that....), but the 360 will be better...:)

[poissonsouriant]

T-Man is an Xbox 360 troll, but at least he's a friendly one. :D

The Nintendo Revolution will be the better game system, IMO.

[T-Man]

I dont have to be friendly....;)

360=bestest :)

[Ezikial Anta]

LOL
Trolllllllllllllllllllll...

[jjesusfreak01]

T-Man is an Xbox 360 troll, but at least he's a friendly one. :D

The Nintendo Revolution will be the better game system, IMO.
As much as I normally respect peoples opinions, how can you really know, as we have little info on Nintendo's new system.

[JackAxe]

Hey, I'm the TROLL :mad: Because my background is mostly Scandinavian. :D

I think that peticular site requires caching, since they only targeted broadband. They could've set a an initial load to that would buffered that out. It runs smoothly from the get go when revisiting with my PB.

If the Flash site or game runs poorly on anything but the fastest system, it is generally because of the developers lack of experience. Some peeps will have dozens of redundent loops running in the background with full screen masks, and use vector art for all elements. These sites are poorly built and should be shot. A properly developed Flash site will run great on pretty much any system released since 2001/2002 including a 1.5 Ghz PB.

I'm sure the X360 will work great, but still 2 skus at release and then another upgrade or new system purchase when the hi-def DVD format becomes standard. I don't peticullary care about a media center, since MS has already proven that they're not good at these things. MS is releaseing their system early in hopes of having another hit like the PS2, but if that were true, then the original Xbox, I mean Dreamcast would've been the market leader.

Anyways, I'm going with Nintendo first since they aren't trying to be the big man on campus vomiting out waves of BS and I'm guaranteed a true gaming machine. If Sony and MS wern't so full of it, then both their current systems could handle HiDef just fine like they stated when they were first revealed. Being able to display HD is one thing, but being able to actually handle it is another, and from what I've been reading, the PS3 and X360 don't have juice handle higher-end HD content with all of the goodies.

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[poissonsouriant]

As much as I normally respect peoples opinions, how can you really know, as we have little info on Nintendo's new system.

I have seen no games that make me want to go out and buy a system on any of the new systems other than the Revolution.

The new Mario game, the new Sonic game, Super Smash Bros Revolution (online), Mario Kart Revolution (also online), are all really good reasons to get a Revolution.

If they release a Ratchet & Clank game for the PS3, I may change my mind about it.

[T-Man]

I saw NFSx which made me want 360, I know of H3, and Xbox better than PS or Nin. But M$ better than Nin and SONY better than M$ and Nin, but Apple better than ALL(even though theres no console from the...:()

[Ezikial Anta]

Ha, T-Man is devoted to Xbox, and Jack to Nintendo.
I lean toward Nintendo for the same reason Jack does, they just dont spam and spew out tons of BS before launch that never comes true.
(By the way, the PSP's web browser is live for English versions, where is my Thumbboard, microphone, camera, ect? I cant even buy them as third party accessories!)
Sad, really.

[JackAxe]

PSP; Browse the web in torment. :D

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[T-Man]

PSP: tormenting web browser|Nin Rev: tormenting Mario :eek:

[JackAxe]

Mario Kicks. The baseball game is coming out in August and it looks great. :)

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[T-Man]

Baseball Mario? Are you kidding me? He already races, and the Master Chief is saving Earth 500 years from now :)

[Ezikial Anta]

What!? That doesnt even make sence! It's just another Halo > anything you got kinda post!
...
Yeah, PSP browser is pretty bad. But, honestly, I was more complaining about how the promised 3rd party / 1st party accessories shown @ E3 2004 STILL arent out.

[T-Man]

Halo=everything :p

[JackAxe]

I saw the plastic PSP keyboard at E3. Why can't someone make a light pen for the PSP? That would make it very attractive.

Halo "waaaassss" a good game. :) Master Chef? Is that some type of cooking show? :p

You really are missing out on some great times by shunning off Mario games. Mario Baseball should be loads of fun. I'm more into the games that involve friends in the same room. I don't mind lugging over my comp. Multiply games on-line tend to create more frustration.

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[T-Man]

Are you a 'loop-hole' finder? How do you make your money? Does the government know about you?

BTW, the 'Master Chef' makes the best of food!

:D

[JackAxe]

Nope I'm a loop-hole. :)

I liked Master Chef's first restaurant, but the second one made me sick. :p

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[Ezikial Anta]

LOL
...
Man, these halo jokes are killing me.

**Tone down that plasma shotgun before you really do kill me though. Thats cheap. Wah, wah.**

[jjesusfreak01]

LOL
...
Man, these halo jokes are killing me.

**Tone down that plasma shotgun before you really do kill me though. Thats cheap. Wah, wah.**
JJF picks up plasma sword. Skips along while slashing it around and tearing people to bits. Anxiously awaiting Halo 3.

[T-Man]

The multi person lunch room in Halo 2 makes up for Master Chiefs last restuarant :)

[poissonsouriant]

You sure you don't mean Master Shake, T-Man?

http://www.student.gsu.edu/~abearden2/mastershake.jpg

[T-Man]

:eek: I'm sure! ;)

[Ezikial Anta]

Aha, I love ATHF...

[JackAxe]

No one can defeat the quad-laser! I watch it every night. :)

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[Ezikial Anta]

Hello... This is... Mr. Brown... Uhhhhhhh...

I'm sorry, you have the wrong number.

Oh DAMNIT!

[JackAxe]

I know you eat your own farts. :)

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[Ezikial Anta]

Lol...

I want to go fast, so that everyone can see me!
Uh, are you sure that we should go into hyperdrive? You know what happens every time...
Yes! I want to go fast!
... That dude flipped me off! STOP THE SHIP!
Are you sure? How could you see that?
Did he see it?
Yes Err.
Alright, but, you know what happens...


[I love Spacecatas, its hillarious]

[JackAxe]

One of my favorite intros, was when that scientist's butt at his own hand.

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[Ezikial Anta]

Oh, haha, Dr. Wierd.

My favorite Dr. Wierd has to be the one with the Taco's.

But yeah, then he eats the entire Dr. Wierd, lol.

[JackAxe]

I knew that was his name, but was toooo lazy to check. :D

Do you watch Harvey Birdman Attorney at law also?

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[Ezikial Anta]

Oh yes!

The most recent one was pretty darn funny.

Though my favorite one has to be the one where they have all the security level changes and one of them is Rush's Moving Pictures album, haha, I laughed so hard.

Say Jack, where does the old UDT peeps hang out? I'd like to pop in and say hi.

[JackAxe]

I honestly don't recall. There was a UDT forum created, but I'll need to dig for the URLs. Maybe SC knows?

I'm not sure if I saw that peticular episode. I didn't get into it until about 2 years ago and have liked it ever since. My favorite so far that I've seen was the Scooby Doo pot smoking episode. :)

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[Ezikial Anta]

I'll ask SC in that case.

Scooby doo! LOL!!! I laughed pretty hard at that episode too.

[JackAxe]

The thing that got me about that episode, was the comment Shaggy made; Like I finally get it, Scooby "Dooooooooooby" doo. I'm not sure why I never put that together. Probably because I was a kid. :)

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[T-Man]

No, its not...

[JackAxe]

Maybe if it's something different...

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[T-Man]

Sory, dont mind me. :) I was just answering back at the thread name. :)

[dragonsgames]

It is cool. Just cause you think the XBox 360 is cool, doesn't mean everything else isn't.

[T-Man]

:D I know....but I still like Xbox and always will(Unless it really does run Windows...)

[dragonsgames]

I think XBox is running some kind of Windows

[T-Man]

:( Did you have to remind me?!?! I like to think of it as Direct-X...(same thing...)

[dragonsgames]

That is why it is so slow.

[T-Man]

Ah...whatever..Halo 2 FAST! :p

[dragonsgames]

Once it gets started. It takes the XBox so long just to turn on.

[T-Man]

.............;)..............

[T-Man]

Whatever...:)

[dragonsgames]

I have used XBox before...

[T-Man]

And????? You liked it!!! :)

[dragonsgames]

It passed some time...

[T-Man]

How dare you say such horrid things! :D

[dragonsgames]

How dare YOU say such horrid things!?

[T-Man]

Lol....:)

They are true.(In my head.)

[JackAxe]

:D I know....but I still like Xbox and always will(Unless it really does run Windows...)

:D GUESS WHAT!!! Your precious 80 ton DreamCast 2 runs on a variant of "Windows 2K." Haa haaa. :p

Now don't the alternatives sound better?

I'm not sure what OS is being used by the X360, but its development boxes run WindowsNT.

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[dragonsgames]

By DreamCast 2, do you mean XBox?

[JackAxe]

Why yes. :) Didn't you ever wonder about why Sega stepped down right when MS entered the game market?

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[dragonsgames]

Never thought about it...

[JackAxe]

MS teamed up with Sega years ago. They helped bring Windows CE to the Dreamcast and even released a PCI Dreamcast card for PCs. Blah. Anyways, it wasn't public info, but to me and my friends it was obvious. It was jut too convient for MS, when Sega stepped out of hardware development at that time.

There are bits and pieces of the Dremcast tech moved into the XBox, like the memory, networking and of course the basic controller design if I recall correctly.

Oh, and MS tried buying out Sega for $3 Billion.

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[T-Man]

At least its a green, rounded version of 2k...:(

hehe

...ew, Dreamcast....what was that again? :)

[JackAxe]

So how ye like yar Dreamcast 2 "media center" running Windows 2k?

My friend knows a few peeps that work in development at Activision, and they weren't too nice about what they had to say about the X360. Basically, "rushed" and "shoddy" came up a few times, oh and as already mnetioned by other developers, underpowered. But you will be buying a media center that can produce nicer graphics. Just stick with 480 and your X360 games will run fine. Over-promises seem to be the norm of our nation now days.

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[jjesusfreak01]

MS teamed up with Sega years ago. They helped bring Windows CE to the Dreamcast and even released a PCI Dreamcast card for PCs. Blah. Anyways, it wasn't public info, but to me and my friends it was obvious. It was jut too convient for MS, when Sega stepped out of hardware development at that time.

There are bits and pieces of the Dremcast tech moved into the XBox, like the memory, networking and of course the basic controller design if I recall correctly.

Oh, and MS tried buying out Sega for $3 Billion.

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Thats why the original controllers were so honkin huge. It all makes sense now. Dreamcast was a pretty sad system, but the ability to burn games to CDs was pretty cool.

[poissonsouriant]

My thread has been hijacked!

Anyway, to answer T-man saying that the NES Revolution wasn't cool:

You weren't alive during the NES era. You don't remember how cool the NES games were, how one could spend hours at a time playing 2-D, pixelated games on a system with less processing power than Palm Pilot Professional (also before your time).

Games like Super Mario 3, Kirby's Adventure, Tetris, Dr. Mario, Wario's Woods, Super Mario 2, Super Mario 1, Duck Hunt, Yoshi's Cookie, Mega Man (lots of those), Legend of Zelda, the list goes on!

We didn't need all of this fancy technology. Polygons, tetraflops, floating point calculations, NURBS, GPU, Cell, were all unknown to us. What mattered was that the games were fun and easy to play. Truly it was the golden age of video games.

One day, when the graphics are so good that it's like looking at real life, when the sound is so good you feel like you're actually in it, when the AI is so good that it gets better SAT scores than you, developers will be forced to realized that their games are but hollow shells, pretty to look at, but lacking in soul, lacking in fun. Then, perhaps, we will see the focus begin to shift back to making games fun.

Thank you, and good night.

[JackAxe]

Ahhhh, the greats. :) Well put.

Ironically, games back then were also more challenging. Games now days, don't go far enough and are way to easy. They seem to have been dumbed down in general. Even setting them on hard really doesn't help.

Newer games are missing a level of sophistication that games like Ultima achieved so many years back. Zelda NES has more substance and was way more enjoyable than a majority of the blah available now, and it still managed to be a challenge. I really like the games that I can pick up and then put down, but I'm also longing for the games that are sooo consuming that I'll forgo sleep and personal hygiene to complete. :) I really liked Minish Cap GBA, the game looks great, but was a little bit bummed that it wasn't as challenging as Link to the Past. (SNES and also GBA.)

I think one of the problems is that all of the publishers and developers are focusing on Multi-play since it's the money maker, but the downfall is that every other genre is being neglected because of it. Also since graphic production is sooo freaking expensive, because of the level they're trying to produce, developers aren't really given the freedom to explore. Hence this is why I like my DS, graphics althoug nice for a portable, aren't cutting edge, so developers can focus more on other aspects like gameplay and making it fun. The best games I've played recently have all been on my DS. rambles..

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[NX70BOY]

Ahhhh, the greats. :) Well put.

Ironically, games back then were also more challenging. Games now days, don't go far enough and are way to easy. They seem to have been dumbed down in general. Even setting them on hard really doesn't help.

Newer games are missing a level of sophistication that games like Ultima achieved so many years back. Zelda NES has more substance and was way more enjoyable than a majority of the blar (:)) available now, and it still managed to be a challenge. I really like the games that I can pick up and then put down, but I'm also longing for the games that are sooo consuming that I'll forgo sleep and personal hygiene to complete. :) I really liked Minish Cap GBA, the game looks great, but was a little bit bummed that it wasn't as challenging as Link to the Past. (SNES and also GBA.)

I think one of the problems is that all of the publishers and developers are focusing on Multi-play since it's the money maker, but the downfall is that every other genre is being neglected because of it. Also since graphic production is sooo freaking expensive, because of the level they're trying to produce, developers aren't really given the freedom to explore. Hence this is why I like my DS, graphics althoug nice for a portable, aren't cutting edge, so developers can focus more on other aspects like gameplay and making it fun. The best games I've played recently have all been on my DS. rambles..

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[T-Man]

I like 2D PingPong! And the PacMan when it sounds intersting! Thats all. :)

[JackAxe]

ArrgGhgh, I've been BLARED!!! :eek:

You would be good at PacMan T-Man, it's just as repetitive as Halo, well maybe not as much. :p

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[NX70BOY]

:D hee hee

[T-Man]

Yeah, whatever.....At least Halo is an FPS...

[Ezikial Anta]

Would you look at that Jack? Out of nowhere pops in Sean, (NXBoy) and my UDT Question is solved!

[Ezikial Anta]

Actually, I guess it wasn't that easy.
The aimoo board is gone.

[JackAxe]

He's back and he's blaring us. Were you gone on vacation NX70BOY? :)

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[JackAxe]

Yeah, whatever.....At least Halo is an FPS...

A Flavored Potato Snack? :)

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[jjesusfreak01]

A Flavored Potato Snack? :)

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Fully Populated Server :)

Finally Perfected Software

Famous Person Systematizer (okay, that ones bad)

[poissonsouriant]

Foolish Piece of.....well, you know. :D

[Ezikial Anta]

Windows...
Finally Perfected Software
ROFL!
I make funny!

[dragonsgames]

Windows is the worst. Yes, I have used XP and Mac OS 10, no comparisson

[jjesusfreak01]

Windows is the worst. Yes, I have used XP and Mac OS 10, no comparisson
Powerbooks stink. Yes, I own both XP and Mac OS 10, no comparison.

I can always count on Windows to do what I say, while my Powerbook seems to be taking over control of itself. It doesnt let me install updates, and it doesnt run my favorite programs. There, I wont bash Mac anymore in this thread unless someone asks for it.

Back to the original intent of the thread. When is that conference in which Nintendo plans to actually tell us what is revolutionary about the Revolution.

[Ezikial Anta]

I wish I could run mac on this thing.

Will I ever be able to dualboot this thing? Now that Apple switched over to Intell's?

[Ezikial Anta]

They say they plan to tell us in September.

[T-Man]

Hold on, back up. :) Are you sure you didnt kinda hate the PowerBook the first day you got it? Any Mac has a mind of its own, and it needs to be loved, not put to the side as you replace with Windows. :( Windows' brains our too haughty.(SP) Macs have feelings! :(

[dragonsgames]

I guess the Revolution is revolutionary becuase it plays old games... :confused:

[poissonsouriant]

The controller is supposed to be the revolutionary aspect. It is supposed to change the way that games are played. I don't think it will go that far, but it will probably be pretty cool anyway.

[T-Man]

I know...doesnt make much sense...

[dragonsgames]

The controller must be all touchscreen, and have the pads move around. That is cool! :D
Gets me to look back into it...

[T-Man]

I'd like a touchscreen controller. :) gimme gimme

[dragonsgames]

Sorry Timantha, it is not XBox

[T-Man]

(BTW, the 'gimme gimme' has a jesture to go with it, its a weird little claw like jesture, like you've been deprived of something and want it. When she said that, I thought of the same thing before she even mentioned in school that she was going to say there was a little jesture with it! :D I predict the future, and Jobs will soon run Californioa, and he'll get the staye renamed to Calitosh. :))

[T-Man]

(Hand jesture, wanting the controller for Xbox...)

[dragonsgames]

You are crazy, Timantha. You girlfriend seems like a "needy-type". Not good :(

[T-Man]

She's only playing! (I think :D) And we're not that involved...right now...yet...

[poissonsouriant]

The controller will not be touchscreen, Nintendo has said that their will be no screen on the controller or system.

[dragonsgames]

Then how will the controller change?

[Ezikial Anta]

Some say trackball, others say gyroscoping internals (was that it?) I dunno, something to do with the way to tilt the controller is the way you move...
still yet, others say no buttons what so ever and touch regions, much like the mighty mouse. They said no touch screen - not no touch regions.

[JackAxe]

They're putting fur on it, you'll be able to pet it. :)

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[Ezikial Anta]

Lmao! Nintendogs Revolutionized.

[dragonsgames]

And it would feel good in your hands. :)

[JackAxe]

I've also heard that their new controllers are "sugar free." :D

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[dragonsgames]

Nice :cool:
The old ones made everyone fat. Or was it that they sat around all day. Nope, must have been the controllers :D

[JackAxe]

It was the sitting. :)

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