ANYONE at all here have an Xbox Live Gamertag???

[T-Man]

I woud really like to find a 1SRC'er with XBL and a gemertag, so if you have one post! :)

Timm

[JackAxe]

Gamertag... **Vomits through nose** :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

<T-Man looks at JackAxe thru squinted, evil eyes....>

[JackAxe]

*Doesn't see it, since pestilence XBox is not in my house to transfer you EVIL.* :p

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[T-Man]

;) :p OK, anyone else we know that dont have a GT?

[abid786]

me me, i dont have one!

[T-Man]

Ok, then. Anyone that we know that has XBL and a GT?

[JackAxe]

I have some JBL speakers and some GE lightbulbs in the laundry room. :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

But do they even connect to the internet, no! ;)

[JackAxe]

But they do have internet sites, so they're kind of connected that way. :)

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

I have an Xbox Live Gamertag






























Not :p

[T-Man]

JackAxe is finding the loopholes and puking, abid is too happy, and Dragonsgames is getting my hopes up :D

@DG: What about your friend who has an Xbox?

[dragonsgames]

I don't know much about XBox. What is Gamertag? All he does is play Halo 2 all day on XBox live :D

[T-Man]

A GamerTag is like your Xbox Live 'username'(known as a 'gamertag'), like your username on here. My Halo 2 friends list is full, so I'll have to get rid of someone... I'm TigerTimm on XBL. Does he ever come on here?

Xbox LIVE (https://www.xbox.com/en-us/live/default.htm)

[JackAxe]

A GamerTag says that you enjoy playing craperific "lo-rez" on-line games with a controler that suckfies any FPS to death. It also says Microsoft has you in their pocketbook. :p But if you're having fun, then paying a monthly fee to play a lo-rez and pixelated game on-line with such a horrid FPS controler, is fine. :)

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

Is Halo on GamerTag? It isn't "lo-rez"

[T-Man]

^^^huh???

@JAx: Yeah, whatever. And its a yearly fee for me. BTW, if you play on the internet with a Playstation, you'll think yuo were on AOL ;) Payment=95% of the people that play have fast connections|Free=LLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

@DG: You're right none of the series is lo-res ;) Halo is an offline only game. Halo 2 is playable on Xbox Live. And if you get a Gamertag, you can play with others on XBL. So, you gonna give me your friend's Gamertag? ;)

[dragonsgames]

Uhh, I don't know what it is...

[T-Man]

PS fanboys...its such a bad way to start out! :D

[JackAxe]

Ha ha, you think I would degrade myself to Playstation for on-line play, especially for FPS games. *LOL* :D

Halo and Halo2 are definately "lo-rez." I haven't had to suffer through pixelated crap like that on my PC since the mid to late ninties. When the Xbox came out, I was playing games like Unreal Tournament at 1280x1024. Even most HD televisions are lo-rez, especially all of the plazmas. :)

I use "real" computers for on-line games. For FPS game over the internet or Lan, you just can't be a real computer. The hi-rez screen and mouse are so much better than a lame controller for these types of games. ;)

Here's a screen shot of Call of Duty on my Apple HD 30" LCD. Note that COD doesn't support my native rez of 2560x1600, but only 2048x1536, which still makes all consoles, even the newer ones vomit in there place from shear jealousy. :p (My Dual proc Mac with a 6800U plays this game fast and smoothly at full rez and detail.)

Behold!!! (http://www.bainne.com/fun/30_inch/Hi_Rez_COD.png)

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[T-Man]

I unfortanetely have to say that doesnt look to bad. :( But not everyone has a PowerMac. Heres a deal, you buy me the $3000 PowerMac, and I'll forget about other consoles. :D (I thought so... :p)

@DG: Ask your friend what his Gamertag is someday, he'll know what it is, and can probably explain it better since you'll see it (And you better love it!!! :))
(I'm listening to a XB360 podcast :)

Timm

[JackAxe]

Here are some screen shots of Warcraft 3, one of my all time favorite on-line games. This sort of game, RTS would suck on any console, mainly because of their hideous controls. It was all of the "mods" that made this game so great.

These are 2560x1600 in size;
Warcraft 3 Screen 1 (http://www.bainne.com/fun/30_inch/Warcraft_1.png)
Warcraft 3 Screen 2 (http://www.bainne.com/fun/30_inch/Warcraft_2.png)

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[T-Man]

Again, not too bad. I, personally, cannot use keyboards! I tried playing a Halo demo on PC before, and there was no way I'd do that forever. I need some sort of controller (not a mouse) For Filght Simulator: Joystick|Midtown Madness 2: Steering wheel. And thats all I've ever played anything else on a PC. (But maybe the Mac in the future :))

[JackAxe]

I unfortanetely have to say that doesnt look to bad. :( But not everyone has a PowerMac. Heres a deal, you buy me the $3000 PowerMac, and I'll forget about other consoles. :D (I thought so... :p)

@DG: Ask your friend what his Gamertag is someday, he'll know what it is, and can probably explain it better since you'll see it (And you better love it!!! :))
(I'm listening to a XB360 podcast :)

Timm

Once you get into light and all the purdy effects, it looks awesome. Especially in motion.

But you don't need $3K to buy a PC with a 7800 that will literally make the X360 tremble in it's Media Center place. :)

And why would you buy a game console wannabe / media-center, when Microsoft has already stated they're going to offer newere and "better" versions over the next 5 years? At least if you buy a PS3, you'll only need to buy once. Imagine buying a first rev X360, then in 2 years not being able to play the lates game, because it only supports the newer X360. Or if you wanted to take advantage of that game's enhanced features, you would need to upgrade your X360. Now in my book, since these are merely consoles, that is lame. A console should last about 4-6 years before needing to be replaced, not 1 or 2.

<]=)

[T-Man]

So, what about the PowerMac deal??? ;)

[T-Man]

Tell M$ that! Apparently they can make one OS last 4-6 years :rolleyes: Just look at XP...

[T-Man]

I still specifically want the PM3k one. I want it to last me 4-6 years :p

[JackAxe]

Again, not too bad. I, personally, cannot use keyboards! I tried playing a Halo demo on PC before, and there was no way I'd do that forever. I need some sort of controller (not a mouse) For Filght Simulator: Joystick|Midtown Madness 2: Steering wheel. And thats all I've ever played anything else on a PC. (But maybe the Mac in the future :))


A keyboard and mouse for a FPS offers the fastest and most precise control. A thumb-stick like on a XBox is only nice for relaxing, it's simply too slow and unaccurate when compared to the above combo. I wouldn't use a mouse for a flight game either, I use an analogue joystick. All the games I've played on the PC that go from a FP to a vheicle support all input devices. So I can grab my joystick when driving a jeep. You can buy a steering wheel for the PC. Computers have always had the largest and best selection of game input devices.

<]=)

[JackAxe]

I still specifically want the PM3k one. I want it to last me 4-6 years :p

The screen alone was $3K. I saved about a grand though, because I'm an Apple developer, but it's still wasn't cheap. My comps last me about 4 years. :)

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

I'm a Apple developer, too. I have all my time I have in my game (and on 1src).

See it at http://www.dragonsgames.com/mournday.html

[JackAxe]

Cool. I would like to develop some Mac games, but I'm an ADC for the hardware discount. :D Maybe next year. I'm going to start tinkering with XCode again, I've only tried it wtih a GBA SDK I was fiddling around wtih the other year.

<]=)

[T-Man]

I so far like Towns of Mourndays. :) Will it come out on the Mac platform? Or will it come out on the Mac platform first? ;)

[T-Man]

Is that a cat JackAxe?

[dragonsgames]

Mac first, then Windows. I have to fix a lot of stuff since I lost my old version somehow... :(

[dragonsgames]

Is that a cat JackAxe?

Looks like it. Don't know what else that could be :D

[T-Man]

Well, thats good to know.(@ the Mac first part) How could you have lost the old version? When getting a new iBook?

[dragonsgames]

No. I installed a bad program on my old iBook, and I lost all my data. It didn't work with Mac OS X.3, and it ran on every program. I forget to transfer my game when I backed up my data :(

I backed up an older version :(

[T-Man]

Oh...How much will it be???

[T-Man]

Looks like it. Don't know what else that could be :D

A small....skunk?

[dragonsgames]

A small....skunk?

A Skunk? That is a cat... Don't know why it would be a skunk, beside the white and black.

Do you have a cat? It has cat ears and eyes and paws.

[T-Man]

^^^I know, I was kidding :p But its a weird looking cat because of the darkness...BTW, I have 4 :) well, they're not all mine, but theres 4 living in the house, not to mention 2 that come to our house and live outside

[dragonsgames]

But its a weird looking cat because of the darkness...

That is why it is his Avatar :D

[T-Man]

;) That makes sense.

So, can you tell us the price of ToM? Or is that for later?

[dragonsgames]

I don't know yet. Maybe around $35-$50?

[T-Man]

Not too bad, thats more of a last minute thing anyway(I think)It reminds me of Halo some how....hmmm....

[JackAxe]

Is that a cat JackAxe?


No, it's me. :p

<]=)

[T-Man]

Ooh.....you weird ;)

[dragonsgames]

You are one smart cat... :D

[T-Man]

My PowerBook AKA Vicki can read. Is she, uhh, I mean the PowerBook smart? :D

[dragonsgames]

Of course she is T-Man, of course she is.



(Note to self, T-Man is going crazy) :)

[T-Man]

;) Victoria comes in 2nd, the rest sound ugly...:D

[T-Man]

But I dont understand why we cant have a normal conversation??? All she wants to do is open Safari and switch to iTunes...

[JackAxe]

Your Mac isn't very productive. My Macs are currently solving the problem of world hunger. I networked them together with some string and told them to do so. I figure they should have a solution for me soon. I upgraded my Powerbooks speed by putting a sticker on it, so it must be faster. My G5 is fast because it's tall. My old G4 is really fast tooo, I waxed it for the extra speed.

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

I upgraded my Powerbooks speed by putting a sticker on it, so it must be faster.

You have such good logic. It is good that you are on this forum :D

[JackAxe]

Why thank you. I've learned from the best. (http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/uglydog.asp) :)

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

That picture will haunt me for the rest of my life

[T-Man]

Talk about a good picture to put in front of Halloweeners faces :D

[dragonsgames]

Yep. Perfect. :D

[JackAxe]

But that's my dog. :mad: :( I sent that pic to the weef and she deleted it. Poor doggy is being rejected by everyone. :D

<]=)

[T-Man]

Well, that dog doesnt need darkness to look scary. Its just old, at least it wasnt born in that malicious form...

[JackAxe]

That was a puppy. :D

<]=)

[Gizmo]

But that's my dog. :mad: :( <]=)

So, what is an XBox Live Gamertag anyway?

I KNEW I recognized yar flea-bitten dog from when ye used to sail the seven seas on yar pirate ship in the 'ol Talk like a pirate thread. :eek:

Now ye be havin' cute kitties as yer avatar. :rolleyes: :p

:D

[JackAxe]

Arrrr, ye don't want a XBox gamertag. It's something that only a land lubber would want.

Yep, that was me dog "Scurvy." :)

ArRr..eeerr.. Arr, That not be a kitty. It be a viscous lion, the same lion that ripped off me leg, it just happens to be small cute and cudly. :eek:

I've been working on a new pirate sketch, I just needs to paint it. :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

@Gizmo: A GamerTag is something everyone normal wants when they find out what it is :) Its like your username(Like Gizmo is on 1SRC), except on Xbox LIVE (https://www.xbox.com/en-us/live/default.htm)

[JackAxe]

Then how come so many of us don't want one... :p :D

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[T-Man]

'Cause you're not normal ;)

[Gizmo]

@Gizmo: A GamerTag is something everyone normal wants when they find out what it is :) Its like your username(Like Gizmo is on 1SRC), except on Xbox LIVE (https://www.xbox.com/en-us/live/default.htm)
Doh.... Thanks T-Man. I just read the begining of this thread where you explained it to someone else. :o

[T-Man]

No prob, everone needs to know it :)

[Gizmo]

Oh...and you're right. Jack Axe is NOT normal. (Not even close) :)

[T-Man]

I predicted that, but now I've got proof :D ;)

[JackAxe]

Not normal is an understatment, I've achieved insanity a few times. :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

Sorry then :)

[JackAxe]

Speaking of insanity, are you still paying Halo? :D And have you played Psychonaughts? (http://www.doublefine.com/products.htm)

<]=)

[T-Man]

That, looks freaky

Halo: yes, of course
:)

[JackAxe]

Halo..... Halo...... Oh what a fun FPS. I've moved on. :)

I'm going to buy that freaky game for my PC, or just buy it for the PS2 and play it on the PS3 when it comes out. Anyways, the main peep behind that game, was behind games like Monkey Island and Day of Tenacle. Great games if haven't playe them. You can play them with ScummVM on the Clié.

<]=)

[JackAxe]

So T-Man, have you downloaded this "lame" widget? (http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/games/countdowntoxbox360.html) :p

<]=)

[T-Man]

:eek: How could I have missed that!!! I searched thru the widgets when I first got my PB! It took me no longer than 10 seconds to get it on my dashboard :)


BTW, I like realistic games, sci-fi, and futuristic games. Like the Halos and Midtown Madnesses. I dont like the games where you play as animals, or whetever else you can name... Is there a Midtown Madness 2 Mac version???

(Allthough, I did amazingly play the Shrek games sometime ago, but its all Halo now :cool: )

Timm

[T-Man]

Halo..... Halo...... Oh what a fun FPS. I've moved on. :)
<]=)

<T-man looks at JackAxe with evil, squinted eyes>

<]=/ (:D)

[JackAxe]

Yep, moved on. :)

Halo, realistic... MuhahaaaaHaahahaaaaaaaaaa. :D Well it is realy repetitive, and life does get like that sometimes. Ok, I only find that humerous since Halo was just another FPS dumbed down for the console. But like I said, it was fun. But there are better games out there now.

Anyways, if you want futuristic and Sci-Fi, holy pooooh, let me introduce you to absolutely one of the all time best games of this genre. Actually one of the best games of all times...

BEHOLD!!! (http://www.ttlg.com/ss1/)

Now it's an older game, so it looks like pooh compared to the new flashy-no-substance vomit that plagues all of our current consoles, but it more than makes up for it with a innovation and substanance and just the sheere amout of detail that was put into it. An amazing game and as of now still has no equal.

<]=)

[JackAxe]

Here's another link;
http://www.mobygames.com/game/system-shock

You should sell your blood if needed to play this game, it's that good.

<]=)

[T-Man]

Sounds intereseting, even though it was created in '94...It only takes place in 2072! Halo 2 is in 2552! WAY ahead of System Shock...

[JackAxe]

Halo is just a FPS with fun multi-play, System Shock is the work of genious. :)

So, in the year 2552, humans use weopons that suck? :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

I dont know :o.....Is it Mac version?

[poissonsouriant]

I apologize for being on topic, but I do have an XBox Live Gametag. It's "Smiling Fish".

I also play PS2 games online.

[dragonsgames]

I don't have PS2 online :(

[poissonsouriant]

I don't have PS2 online :(

It's alright, hardly anyone does. Practically all that do are Beta Testers, too. (I am!)

[T-Man]

Thanks poisonsouriant, look out for me(TigerTimm :D)

Dragonsgames, do you have a router near bye? Its 'FREE'(and slow[75% of the time], so you could just plug it in an play), which is why its better to pay, 'cause if you're going to pay for somethin like that, you'd more than likely want fast internet....

BTW, it took us(well, me) 9 pages to get a Gamertag, I should get paid for everything I had to go thru with JackAxe and his dog (:D)

[dragonsgames]

I have a router.

Wireless internet for my iBook and PSP, I use it for :D

Will try to use the ps2 to connect. Have never tried before

[T-Man]

But, the question is, do you have online enabled games?

[T-Man]

This (http://clientsupport.cc.stonybrook.edu/ssc/consolesonline.shtml) might help(It gave me the chills to look up something with 'PS2' in it...)

[dragonsgames]

It is dial-up only :(

[T-Man]

It might still work...

[dragonsgames]

Nope, it has to connect over a phone. I almost made it dial 911 on accident. It was the default setting :D

[T-Man]

LOL, I dont know then, wanna ask me how to set up an Xbox on the internet? :)

[dragonsgames]

I don't think the PS2 has WiFi built in. How come you have 721 posts :D :confused:

[T-Man]

The Xbox 360 has wireless :)
@ the posts: I'm a post-aholic, I think I past my post count at Brighthand, and I joined in January...

[dragonsgames]

727 posts now? :eek:

[T-Man]

I know :o, but Vicki makes me :)

[T-Man]

(730) Bad Vicki!

[dragonsgames]

You need to dump viki, maybe for someone younger like Princess. She may have a bad voice, but she is rich, and dosen't ask for much. Unlike Vicki, who made you have 730 posts

[T-Man]

But I dont like ugly voice! Victoria still does the time every hour :)

[dragonsgames]

I don't have any voice, I have voice settings turned off

[T-Man]

Still......................uh....I dont know.....:)

[dragonsgames]

Here comes my 500th post...

[T-Man]

YAY! Vicki says she would've wiped my HDD if I didnt post 30 times a day :(

(NOTE: Dont forget the crazy-ness thing between Vicki and T-Man :))

[JackAxe]

Well, you're only upt ot about 9 posts a day, so you have some typying to do. :)

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

I started school, I have less time. Yep, for me, summer is over.

[T-Man]

School starts on the 26th or something for me...

[T-Man]

I will have a withdrawl effect from using PCs at school :( Does your schooluse Macs Dragonsgames?

[dragonsgames]

Nope. Windows xp

[T-Man]

As usual...My elemantary still uses 98 on the class computers, there might've been an XP in the Library, but same difference....Windows:(

[dragonsgames]

I write songs sometimes, here is one to the tune of "wake me up when september ends" by green day. A good summer is over song

http://dragonsgames.com/wake_me_up_when_the_school_year_ends.html

[T-Man]

Ahh, look, Vicki did do something good, she named a fishing site (http://www.tmancustomtackle.com/) after me :)(Allthough, I think she had a little help from Automator...)

[dragonsgames]

Windows 98? Now I know what "old school" means... ;)

[T-Man]

Cool :cool:, I hate making stuff ryhme...

[dragonsgames]

(Allthough, I think she had a little help from Automator...)

You better watch out, Automator is making a move on your girl

[T-Man]

Windows 98? Now I know what "old school" means... ;)


LOL :D Never thought of that...

[dragonsgames]

8 pages of off-topic goodness

[T-Man]

You better watch out, Automator is making a move on your girl

:D I will personally go into Auto's files and rearrange everything if anything happens ;)

[T-Man]

...and only one gamertag...

[T-Man]

Victoria will do the time in 18 minutes :)

[T-Man]

37 minutes of battery left:(

[JackAxe]

Bummer. :( Well at least ye peeps can go home to good computers. Along with my Macs, I also have PCs, but fortunately I don't need to rely on them for a majority of my work.

<]=)

[T-Man]

The only thing I rely on a computer for is for downloading files, the internet, and keeping my LD backed up :)

[dragonsgames]

I don't get to use the PCs at school this year. Only did last year. They liked my Clie, and I got to use it for a project :D

[T-Man]

DG, your 12" iB must get good power, one bad thing about big screens...

[dragonsgames]

37 minutes of battery left

I have two chargers, I have them plugged around my house

[T-Man]

I'm using my LifeDrive or a Pilot in school, no questions asked :)(well, at least thats what I'm thinkinhg...)

[dragonsgames]

I asked "Can I use my PDA in school"

They responed with a swift NO

My computer teacher let me use it, though. Like I need a computer Teacher :rolleyes:

[T-Man]

Yeah...I'm asking this Monday when theres a 'Camp' thing my school is doing...

[dragonsgames]

I'm going to find out if my friend has gamertag, and if he does, i will give it to you. tomorrow

[dragonsgames]

Is it a computer camp? :D

[T-Man]

Thanks :) (Dumb "Message is too short" warnings)

[T-Man]

Is it a computer camp? :D

No, its like 5 hrs of school :( I'll have a computer class for 12 weeks, I wonder what I'll learn (nothing new :))but it'll probably something like learning Windows DOS, and of course NOTHING Mac :(

[T-Man]

Well, got to go now, my battery is almost dead, and my cat wants too sleep :)

Timm

[T-Man]

Anything Dragonsgames? NUTZinTX doesnt sound familliar, does it?

[dragonsgames]

He won't tell me it. He just laughed at me, as usuall

[T-Man]

Oh....:)

You should play some Halo 2 then ;)

[T-Man]

So, can you use your CLIE this year? What grade were you in last year and couldnt use it? I'm starting 7th, I could understand an elementary scholl not letting someone, but not 7th grade :confused:

[JackAxe]

You should buy one of these for your XBlah;
http://xbox.gamespy.com/articles/565/565000p1.html

It would at least partially make up for the horrid controls, since it doesn't provide true mouse support.

<]=)

[T-Man]

771 Posts....but granted, most of them are telling people like JackAxe just how good Halo 2 is when I shouldnt have to :)

[JackAxe]

I remember when I was in 7th grade, I didn't even havd a calculator.

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[T-Man]

Dont need a mouse/keyboard hub thingie, give me USB so I can connect my LifeDrive :)

[T-Man]

You can have calculators in watches now :) but they're ugly(I think, let me check w/ Vicki...)

[dragonsgames]

I could use it in 6th, but my Private School is strict, that might be why I can't use it

[JackAxe]

Halo 2, blah. But overall I would give it a B-, maybe a B. Mario Party is more entertaining. :)

<]=)

[JackAxe]

I recall having two different calculator watches when I was younger. Maybe I did have one in 7th grade, or it was 8th grade.

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

Mario Party makes me mad. I always lose, and there are long parts

[dragonsgames]

10 pages of off-topic goodness

[T-Man]

I would've liked to use it in 6th :) But I'd never try in elemantary 6th (7th starts middle school here), because I wouldnt want someone to be around me too long so they dont have a chance to take it :)

I would've thought you could use it in a private school, maybe not

[T-Man]

10 Pages! Its more like 14! How much was related to an Xbox Live gamertag? :D

[dragonsgames]

5 or 6 posts, at the mostd

[T-Man]

Oh, I thought 2 :eek:

[dragonsgames]

You asked in the first post, some people asked about it, you asked people...

[T-Man]

Oh, true, at least 12 pages then :) (And Vicki agrees with me, most of todays 'calc-watches' are ugly, at least the ones we've seen :))

[JackAxe]

Mario Party makes me mad. I always lose, and there are long parts


You needs to be hangin out with some more skillful friends :D Joking, besides the computer cheating every once in a while, the game is sooooo much luck. My favorite is MP 4, but I also have 5.

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

It isn't the computer that beats me, it is my brothers. They play GC and GBA SP all day

[T-Man]

Your younger brothers win against you? (sorry, not trying to rub it in ;))

[dragonsgames]

I don't play much. That is all they do.

[T-Man]

Going to the 1SRC chat now :)

[T-Man]

Since this thread has gone waayyy off topic: I have like a school preview thing (called 'Camp Vandy') and its til 1, then Friday, starts school. And then weekend, and more school....Summer is over....

[dragonsgames]

Summer, come back! I didn't mean what I said! :(

[T-Man]

:D I know...:(, its 6am right now, I got up eearly :)...

[poissonsouriant]

I never went to sleep. Up late trying to download a Linux distribution. Could never get the checksums right.

[T-Man]

Oh.........45 minutes til 'school'...

[JackAxe]

It's 4:35 AM, I just finished a comp and uploaded it so one of my clients can view it this morning. Now I must sleep for about 4 hours.

<]=)

[T-Man]

Just got back from that school thing, its 2:30....and I got 5 Palm Pilots :) They all work and I love them, except they're too....simple...

[JackAxe]

You beat up 5 kids and took their Palm Pilots? :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

:D


(Ordered them from ebay for $36 :))

[JackAxe]

WTF are you going to do with 5 Palm Pilots, sell them? :)

How many PDAs do you own? Besides the weefs, I have my old NR70v and a Dell *VOMIT* Axmin.

<]=)

[T-Man]

One I'm probably letting a friend have, 3 are mine forever, and one I might take apart and see if I can do something on the positive side to it :)

I have, lets see......7 PDAs right now:) I wont have one for long, and the Zire 72 is only partially mine.

Hey, do you mind? I've never had this many electronics in my hands before! (I cant wait til I start computer class, maybe they'll have some easy accessable RAM :D)[kiddin', kiddin' :o]

Timm

[JackAxe]

Me mind, no I'm rude! :p :D I'll be up to 3 PDA soon, but it's no longer a priority.

Computer Ram, accessible... Hmmm. I used to work for a place that fit that description. *whistles and looks the other way* ¬¬ *I'm also kidding.* :)

Of course when I did work for a computer store, 32 megs of ram was still a few thousand.

<]=)

[T-Man]

I wonder what 480/960k of memory ment to people in '97? All the dates on these things are from 1997, so they're from '97, right? Can I add a couple MBs to the Pilots?

[JackAxe]

Nope. Now you know why they're only 7 bucks. :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

Yeah...I just got my schedule for my classess today!!! :) And I start school on Friday :)

[T-Man]

BTW, the computer lab is $100,000+ of technology and fairly new, they wouldnt spend that all on Windows, would they:(

[dragonsgames]

Windows 98, new? Have I gone back in time :confused:

[T-Man]

I hope its AT LEAST XP, and maybe a hint of Panther??? :(

[dragonsgames]

Hopefully, for you :(

[T-Man]

XP is 4 years old....but Panther is only 21(?) months old :cool:

[T-Man]

Hopefully, for you :(

Your school had Win '98?!?! That was 1/2 yrs ago, wasnt it you had computer class??? Or was it last grade?

[dragonsgames]

What? No, you said your school had Windows 98. My school has Windows XP

[T-Man]

I didnt say my school had 98...[confused]

[dragonsgames]

A couple pages back.

http://images.dragonsgames.com/windows.jpg

[T-Man]

Oh, I'm going to Junior High now, their computer lab is fairly new :cool: And my old elementary just got a lot of Dells not too long ago unning '98(I think...)

[dragonsgames]

XP is much better than 98, and Mac OS X is much better than XP

[T-Man]

Exactly, and OS X is better than anything :)

[poissonsouriant]

Hold the phone....T-man's in Junior High?!?!?!

How can you afford a Powerbook, LifeDrive, Xbox, Xbox 360 and all the other expensive stuff? Are your parents fabulously wealthy or something?

For that matter, why do you need a Laptop? I didn't even have a PDA til I was starting high school! (6 years ago...)

[poissonsouriant]

On the computers at school topic...

When I was in Elementary School, we had an Apple IIe in our classroom. Command line interface, I believe.

At my college we have around 300 desktops. 294 run Windows XP or 2000. 6 run Mac OS X.

The Desktop in my dorm runs Fedora Linux.

[T-Man]

I'vr gathered up the money on my own for the PDAs, the Xbox was a Cristmas gift some 2 years ago, and the PowerBook was part of 'trade'(my brother bought me the PB, and he got my old PC) :)

I'm not getting a 360 on Nov 4th, but when Halo3 comes out I'll need one...

[T-Man]

School tomorrow... :( Then weekend...:) Then school...:(

[poissonsouriant]

Just wait til you're in college, buddy.

You'll wish for the schedule you have now.

You said you saved the money for the LifeDrive yourself. How does a child save up $500??

[dragonsgames]

I miss the last year once I get into the new grade.

[T-Man]

:D Well, I was quite surprised that I saved up $230 for the E. And then I got a little more dough and got the T3. When I sold that it was with a few accessories (And unfortanetely was a rippoff, I'd still have more money now :() and I used the rest of the money I saved for the LifeDrive. :) Its not impossibe, just hard... :)

But in college I'll get to use my PowerBook and LifeDrive, so I'm not losing much ;)

[T-Man]

23....computers....running.....WINDOWS!!!!! :mad: Its kinda hard for me to belaive there isnt one Mac in the school, Windows isnt the only computers we'll use in life people! Especially for some of us! ;) The monitors were by HP/Compaq, and the towers were either some unbranded model or the names werent on them...

[JackAxe]

Mass ignorance is the reason behind this blah. Well, it seems to be getting better. I meet more Mac peeps now days. A few years back, it was just me and a friend, and then all of the other artist I knew. Now it's multiple of friends and peeps I meet out of the blue.

Everbody is finally getting sick of the mediocrity that is Microsoft's products.

<]=)

[T-Man]

;) Yep. :)

[poissonsouriant]

No, money is behind all the blah. Computers that run Windows are much cheaper than those from Apple. Since Apple has a monopoly on computers that run Mac OS, they can and do charge whatever they like. When they make a computer with the exact same specs as a Windows PC for a close-to-the-same price, I will get one.

Edit: I just checked, and to get a PowerBook with similar features as my 15.4" Gateway, I would have to spend $2,299. I spent $649 on my Gateway, and while the Powerbook has better specs, they're not enough to justify paying $1,650 more.

[T-Man]

Ah..whatever. Its worth it for me and apparently many others. Have you never heard the old saying? Look...

[T-Man]

:)http://dragonsgames.com/T-Man/mac_028SML.jpg

[poissonsouriant]

Thank you for resizing the picture, T-Man.

[dragonsgames]

Yeah, make it an attachment, or delete it, it is way too big

[T-Man]

OK :) Wanted it to catch your eye first...;) Be right back...

[poissonsouriant]

Ah..whatever. Its worth it for me and apparently many others. Have you never heard the old saying? Look...

Worth it for you? You didn't even pay for it! I had to spend my hard earned money on my notebook.

[dragonsgames]

Yeah, me too! :mad:
(yes, I do work ;) )

[T-Man]

@DG: You work?:D

I cant help it! People actually give me presents! :)

There, smaller pic. :)

[poissonsouriant]

My family can't afford to give me presents like that....since my dad lost his job.

[dragonsgames]

That's sad :(
Has he tried http://www.monster.com ?

[T-Man]

:( See if he finds something interesting on Monster? Hope all goes well....
My parents couldnt afford a PowerBook unless they needed it. My brother does well....and its construction, the only way I'll be in construction is if I'm an arcitect and get to design my own buildings. On a Mac! :)

[Ezikial Anta]

Heh.
I am 16.
Speaking of, I owned a few tech toys, but gave them up.
I wonder if most people know I am 16?
I think I mentioned it before. Well, my prized possesion isnt my PC or any of that, its my bass. It cost a lot. But, to be honest, saving that long and hard (Almost a year) was worth it.
It was only 1,000.

[Ezikial Anta]

Oh and by gave them up, I mean sold.
The only new tech toy I want is a Smartphone. PDA's seem too obsolete too quickly for me, but a smartphone I can justify as it is (as the name states) my phone.

[T-Man]

You play? I used to do piano...

[dragonsgames]

My mom wants us to get a piano at our new house. I think a computer should go there :D

[Ezikial Anta]

I play every day. It's always in my lap. Even as I type this, I have it in my lap. I had one before that that I used for years, my grandmother gave it to me. After I decided that I was "good enough" I saved for close to a year and bought the Fender Jazz Bass - Geddy Lee edition. Geddy' is my bass HERO, and I have no doubt that in my year book I am probably going to just write "To be the worlds next Geddy Lee" and leave it as such. I love my bass. I do almost nothing without it. When I go on vacation, I actually find a place that sells guitars and make a mandatory stop there for about half an hour and play... Sad, I guess, but after you play every day for a few years its probably as strong as addiction as ciggarettes... Without the bad side effects. Well, theres always Carpel tunnel, but [Stops rambling]

[T-Man]

An electic piano. :) No wait...uh...piano plugged into Mac. :)

(Didnt you just move when you 'broke' the TG50?)

[dragonsgames]

Garageband

[T-Man]

Oh, yeah. :)Is there a way to get that to use keyboard keys as piano keys? I cant keep moving my mouse...

[Ezikial Anta]

Me? I never broke a TG50, though I owned one.

Sold it.

Garage band? I am in a band, and we play in his basement, thank you very much :D...
I love playing. I should get a link to a song for you guys. Its not angry or violent or screamo or anything... Just Rock and Roll, I guess.

[T-Man]

:) gimme link

[T-Man]

If you can...

[JackAxe]

No, money is behind all the blah. Computers that run Windows are much cheaper than those from Apple. Since Apple has a monopoly on computers that run Mac OS, they can and do charge whatever they like. When they make a computer with the exact same specs as a Windows PC for a close-to-the-same price, I will get one.

Edit: I just checked, and to get a PowerBook with similar features as my 15.4" Gateway, I would have to spend $2,299. I spent $649 on my Gateway, and while the Powerbook has better specs, they're not enough to justify paying $1,650 more.


Apple makes the OS and computer, it's their products that they are selling and bundling, how is that a monopoly? That's like saying Nintendo has a monopoly on the GameCube, or Mircrosoft on its Xbox. See where I'm going? :)

You get exactly what you pay for, and believe it or not, Apple does not charge a premium for its components. FYI a G4 costs more than a Pentium M, this is just one of reasons Apple is switching to Intel. Apple workstations as an example "cost less" than similar performance 64-bit PC workstaions. OSX is only $129 for the full version, XP Pro an archaic OS in comparison is $269. Apple does charge what they want, and generally they keep their prices fair anc competitive.

For $649 you bought a Centrino with an Intel Graphics chip and slower HD. A G4 PB pretty much anthing will eat that for lunch. And when the G4's Altivec kicks in, it pulverizes it. You're definately not comparing Apples to Apples, you're comparing a Civic (Centrino) to a F150 (G4.) If you would like a similar performance PC note book, you'll need to look at least a 2+ Ghz Pentium M, and for things like multimedia, it will still be slower. Powerbooks are contstructed of better materials, use higher grade screen, not always the highest rez, but better on the colors. Are equipped with DVI out, SVGA out, Firewire 800 just to name a few. There are tons more. And unless you get a lemon, you'll gain an extremely reliable computer. :)

You didn't spend enough to match the Powerbook's specs. :) Next year when Apple starts selling Pentium M Powerbooks, you'll see where I'm going. Price one out to a similar PC, make sure you match all features, not just the proc.

Check out this peep's blogs about his switch to Apple. He deals in security for living and has been working with computers since the stone age;
http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2005/052305schwartau.html

Trust me, most PCs are blah, and mainly because of their OS. ;)

<]=)

[JackAxe]

Oh, yeah. :)Is there a way to get that to use keyboard keys as piano keys? I cant keep moving my mouse...

There are a couple of Midi keyboards that are fully compatible with Garage Band, but pretty much any midi keyboard will do this.

I have this one;
http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr30.html

<]=)

[Ezikial Anta]

We've talked about instruments before, havent we Jack? Or, was that TB and I?
Can't recall!

[dragonsgames]

Macs rule :D

[T-Man]

I have a MIDI keyboard, :), but it needs an older port and I havent found a USB crossover/connectore thing. :(

[JackAxe]

I posted about my keyboard when I first got it, maybe we ramble then? I like it, but I would like more keys.

Here's a USB Midi adapter;
http://www.edirol.com/products/info/um1ex.html

You should sell your Windows 2K game machine and get a kebyoard T-Man. :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

Its not that type of adaptor, its more like the old printer connectors, before there was USB. Anyway, my little brother would never let that happen, as he plays H2 EVERY, STINKING DAY! :(

[T-Man]

Nice MIDI keyboard. :) What was the price? I could almost think about saving up for this...if the resistance to get a new Palm in Fall/Spring isnt too high. :)

[poissonsouriant]

What I meant is that you can get a Windows PC from dozens of manufacturers on the market. You can only get a Mac from Apple. You can't get a Gateway Mac, or a Dell Mac, or an Alienware Mac, or an HP Mac. You can only get a Mac from Apple, and without competition, Apple's prices are high. Because there's no competing companies making computers that use Mac OS, and thus no choice for people wanting a Mac, Apple has a monopoly on computers running Mac OS.

I'm a college student on a budget. My parents aren't rich like T-Man's, I'm in college on a scholarship, and my job at Staples only pays me $7.10/hour. I can't afford a PowerBook, or even an iBook. Especially if I want a screen the same size as mine. I can't even get a 15", let alone a 15.4" Apple notebook without spending $2,000 or more. I can't use a 12" screen, it's just too small. I'm sure that what I would get for the extra $1,650 is well worth that money. But I don't have that extra $1,650.

Sure, you get a lot from a Mac, and I don't doubt that your PowerBook (or whatever Mac product you have) could eat my notebook for lunch. But you know what? Frankly, my Gateway does pretty well for my needs. I'm not rendering 3-D graphics, or creating programs, or playing really advanced computer games, or anything like that. I just browse the web using Firefox, take notes using Openoffice.org, instant message with Gaim, and occasionally watch a DVD or play SimCity 3000. That's it. And my Gateway does pretty well. And the screen looks just as clear and pretty as any Apple I've seen.

I would love to have a Mac, I really would. But that doesn't mean my notebook sucks.

[dragonsgames]

That's why they call him Bender the Magnificent! Good come-back :D

Yeah, not everyone needs, or can afford, a Mac. That, and that all applications don't run on mac, is why Macs don't sell as well as Microsoft. Maybe when they switch to Intel, prices will go down...

[JackAxe]

Hey, I never said your notebook sucked. :) Your system fits your needs, which is good, no complaints here.

I was only responding to your remark that basically states that Apple Powerbooks come at a premium and that PCs of the exact same spec cost less, this is simply not true. The biggets hold back for Apple right now is the G4. It's why the iBook hovers at around $1000. I'm pretty sure that when Apple switches to Intel, they'll start selling iBooks with similar specs to Dell and your Gateway in the same price bracket. I'm also sure that the entry level 15" Powrerbook will drop to the price of a 12". But for the rest of the PBs, unless things drastically change, Apple will continue to sell them at their current prices. They can do this, because they'll simply just replace the current components with similar priced parts, like dual-core chips and hopefully greater RAM support, these things acount for the extra $1700.

I understand what you meant, but still you stated monopoly. :D
Apple chooses not to support clones, because they are a hardware company. (The Mac clones that were available in the Mid ninties almost killed them.) Apple would also rather support a small niche of hardware which they can control for quality, this is the part I like about them. MS supports all platforms, because up until their quest to monopolize the living room, they've always been a software company.

Just wait until next year and you'll see tht Apple is truly competitive with their hardware prices, even though they could charge a massive premium. They do this for their ram though. :)

<]=)

[JackAxe]

That's why they call him Bender the Magnificent! Good come-back :D

Yeah, not everyone needs, or can afford, a Mac. That, and that all applications don't run on mac, is why Macs don't sell as well as Microsoft. Maybe when they switch to Intel, prices will go down...

And not all applications run under Windows. :p

Back in the ninties when Apple should've been more consumer friendly, they weren't. At that time their systems did did sell at a huge premium, and they had a mightier than thou attitude towards developers. This of coure made PCs very appealing, and was just part of many reasons why MS was able to gain such a huge dominance. I remember my brother wanted a Mac SE, but it was way out of his price range, so he settled for a XT turbo. I bought my first PC for Ultima Underworld. (I had my brothers XT, but I don't consider that my first.) :)

Fortunately this has changed, or my current system would've been about $15k out of my price range, or Apple would've probably gone the way of SGI.

<]=)

[T-Man]

There were HP iPods...does that count? :p Dell wanted to use OS X...

As long as it works for you, is all that matters. :) So is the G4/G5 proccessor whats giving Macs the prices?

[poissonsouriant]

The quip about Bender is my signature. Just to let you know.

[JackAxe]

HP was originally going to release a blue iPod that fit their brand better, but ended up dropping the ball, this is why they looked just like Apples.

<]=)

[Ezikial Anta]

I am pretty sure I asked this before. (Maybe I didn't?)
Will I be able to dual boot my PC or reformat my PC to run Windows and OSX Or OSX by itself now that Apple switched to Intel?

[T-Man]

I think with some [illegal] hacking. I'm not sure, ask someone who knows. :)

[dragonsgames]

Have you seen the "Running Mac OS X on Intel hardware" fourm?

[JackAxe]

You'll need to buy Apple's Mactel in order to run OS X. Apple is specifically locking the OS to the hardware in order to maintain their quality.

Some peeps will probably figure out how to get the reatil verrsion of Intel-OS X to work on a standard Intel PC. They figured it out with the developer build, but Apple hadn't locked it down, so who knows how things will pan out.

The thing that I'm hoping will happen with this switch, is that I'll be able to buy any PC video card and use it with my Mactel.

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

Mactel-Intel
Ha, ha :D

[JackAxe]

There's also Intelintosh, but I think that Apple trademarked Mactel. :)

Man, I'm groggy. Got less than 4 hours of sleep, I needs to be making some coffee. :)

<]=)

[T-Man]

Intelitosh :cool: I like that with Macintel. :)

[Gizmo]

If you installed Windows XP on an Apple, would it be MicroSauce? :confused:

Just wondering. (Yikes! WAY off topic. Sorry.)

[JackAxe]

You could say that. It would be a big downgrade.

<]=)

[dragonsgames]

MicroSauce is bad. Very bad.

[T-Man]

So what if its Off Topic? Its already gotten there and isnt coming out....:)

[dragonsgames]

What was the topic again?

[T-Man]

Yeah, you're funny...(sarcasm :))

[dragonsgames]

Most people think I am funny.

[T-Man]

;) Yes...I'm sure they do... :eek: