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s_n_m
04-01-2003, 10:29 AM
I just had an idea:

A replacement flip cover that house memory sticks!

I figure that in the same dimensions as the current over you could fit 4 MS, but if sony made a bigger one they could fit 8 or more!

I'd buy it.

MikeRiegel
04-01-2003, 10:55 AM
Break out the Dremel and the Zap-A-Gap...

Lets get some Kaizo on this side of the pond...

Seriously though, it is a good idea, and I hope that it is worked into a full case in the NEAR future - the stock plastic metal is just not enough to protect it from me, and it is too slick in my sweaty hands...

s_n_m
04-01-2003, 11:38 AM
Agreed.

Unregistered
04-01-2003, 12:39 PM
why should they make this? what is the cost benefit? who does it serve? what is the benefit?..........

MikeRiegel
04-01-2003, 12:46 PM
Why should they make this???
It's a PDA. People out there will purchase a case (people like me)

What is the Cost Benefit?
1. Protection of my Technology Investment.
2. integration of additional media and (in turn) added value to said investment.

Who does it serve?
Someone who would like to enjoy the benefits of the answer to the previous question.

What is the benefit?
Increased usability of the device in question.
Increased apprecuation of appearance of said device.
Something that I have that many others do not (priceless...)

I see that my minor in Marketing has finally been put to use. Thank you, unregistered...

s_n_m
04-01-2003, 01:33 PM
Unregistered, simply it is a way to bring more music/videos with you.

The other options are: bring a seperate MS case which you can lose, or buy the sony clie "pouches" which are WAY too big.

Picasosz
04-01-2003, 01:42 PM
I hate the unregistered

___
04-01-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by s_n_m
Unregistered, simply it is a way to bring more music/videos with you.

The other options are: bring a seperate MS case which you can lose, or buy the sony clie "pouches" which are WAY too big.

How does SONY benefit from wasting money to design/implement a new cover just for YOUR benefit? If you've studied economics at a grade 1 level, you would already know by now that the goal of a business or corporation is to earn maximum profit.

yOyOYoo
04-01-2003, 02:11 PM
bad idea. most people don't have more than one memory stick anyways, at least regular people who don't frequent this site. plus sony expects us to all get the new MS PRO, so multiple memory sticks becomes a moot point.

MikeRiegel
04-01-2003, 02:17 PM
Whoa there PPC > Palm...I think we can all agree that (no matter what the Platform or OS) that the OEM manufacturer of the PDA has nowhere near the coolest accessories...

If it is a really innovative thing for one of our beloved devices, then one of the nitche accessory companies will come up with it.

Basic economics? Okay. Sure, it's not worth Sony's while to make custom, made-to-order cases for their Clies - but it most certainly worth it to Vaja, or they would not be in business.

I think I do what a lot of us here do...get the new Clie (TG50 is my most recent) chuck the stylus across the room, wrap it in a case ASAP, install screen protector (optional) and install a lot of apps that do what the basic OS should have done in the first place...

And I'm sure a lot of PPC folk do the exact same thing (though I did think the Axim came with quite a nice stylus...)

Peace back at 'ya...

Importluva
04-01-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by ___


How does SONY benefit from wasting money to design/implement a new cover just for YOUR benefit? If you've studied economics at a grade 1 level, you would already know by now that the goal of a business or corporation is to earn maximum profit.

Actually, you're way off mark. The goal of a business or corporation is maximize cash flows. CASH IS KING. Profit maximization is a good concept, but not the way to go.

What benefit for sony? People will be able to buy more MS. More profit for them, as you would say.

s_n_m
04-01-2003, 03:40 PM
Mike, you threw away your stylus? Then what do you use?

I need a screen protector and a case but can't find either.

Unregistered
04-01-2003, 04:07 PM
thats my point, as memory sticks have higher capacity, would you want it "sleeve" style like an ipaq, or external? at least the ipaq has the internal sd/mmc slot.

MikeRiegel
04-01-2003, 05:07 PM
Sorry, after throwing the stock stylus across the room, I stick in my 3-in-1 metal jobber and use that...

...my point being that the manufacturer of the PDA rarely has the best accessories, and a lot of folks could, frankly, give a rat's patoot about the quality of the stylus, or available case options, or Agendus (or DateBook...don't want to start a war here...lol).

It is these aftermarket companies who are giving us some of the things that we really want - largely because their buying public is so limited that they have little choice but to deliver...

Let's say that Sony never makes the T-series with the hires+ screen (the holy grail of many of us out there - that thing many have been screaming for for months) will they go out of business???

Heck no...

If an aftermarket suppier of screen covers, cases, styli, whathaveyou decides not to make accessories for a certain device, they are very much limiting their customers, and (in turn) their livelihood.

Imagine if some company out there (a few years back) said that they would in no way support the Palm V (an arguable breakthough in PDA design, if not mechanics) as the Palm III series became less used, they would have been in a serious potential pickle...or, pick your analogy...

Personally, I am not going to be spending more than my shiny-new PDA on a memory stick. When the time comes that I can get one for the used sale prive of my iPod, then I will give it serious consideration. I have a 32, 64, and a 128 MS at the moment, and would like to carry them with me.

I also will be purchasing a case (give it three weeks...) and that case is going to have slots for memory sticks, or I will not be bying it (I loved my iVolution case on the NR, but that lack seriously hurt the case, IMHO).

Simple as that, first manufacturer to the plate wins my $$$, and that really is the name of the game...

and s_n_m, Brando has screen protectors, but I thinking about taking an xacto to one of my wife's SJ33 writewrites - at least in the short term...

Man, am I out of breath...

Kesh
04-01-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
thats my point, as memory sticks have higher capacity, would you want it "sleeve" style like an ipaq, or external? at least the ipaq has the internal sd/mmc slot.

Ah, I think I see a misunderstanding here.

I believe the original poster was talking about a replacement cover for the TG-50 that would allow you to store extra Memory Sticks, rather than carrying them in a seperate case.

plessdude
04-01-2003, 05:22 PM
Skip the replacement cover and give me a 5 gig MSPRO!

Seriously though I think this kind of screen cover would be a great idea. The ideal cover for me would have a window over the screen and slots for two MSPRO's in the keyboard cover area. I might try to get a replacement cover from Sony and see if I can hack one together.

MikeRiegel
04-01-2003, 09:14 PM
Dude, let me know if you need some Master's Degree in Dremelology...that window was the thing from the M-series Palm that I loved the most...

Hey, I'm on Earth too. you must be right down the street...

plessdude
04-01-2003, 10:07 PM
Dude, let me know if you need some Master's Degree in Dremelology...that window was the thing from the M-series Palm that I loved the most...

RotoZip Baby!!!

Hey, I'm on Earth too. you must be right down the street...

7O East :D

WGSquallx2002
04-05-2003, 12:45 AM
Haha...the original poster's idea is great but it seems that only a small portion of the public want it. If numerous MS media were to be placed somewhere on the cover of the TG50, wouldn't it either

A) Make the unit bigger

B) Make the cover more flimsy due to its extra cargo weight and more easily to break down.

or

C) Possibly scratch parts of the unit under the cover if the MS media were to be hidden underneath the cover.

Remember the TG50 was probably, I'm guessing, built with compact-ness in mind. The extra cargo would defeat it's purpose and comming from a small community of people who want products like that, it wouldn't be efficient for a big corporation to make something just like that. This idea is not bad however, if a manufacturer/designer does do a good job, it'd most likely be a 3rd party provider as mentioned above.

wilsonch_98
04-05-2003, 06:00 AM
I was thinking, if sony make the hard cover of their palm come with spare MS slot, who will ever buy their "Leather case"?

s_n_m
04-05-2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by WGSquallx2002
Haha...the original poster's idea is great but it seems that only a small portion of the public want it. If numerous MS media were to be placed somewhere on the cover of the TG50, wouldn't it either

A) Make the unit bigger

B) Make the cover more flimsy due to its extra cargo weight and more easily to break down.

or

C) Possibly scratch parts of the unit under the cover if the MS media were to be hidden underneath the cover.

Remember the TG50 was probably, I'm guessing, built with compact-ness in mind. The extra cargo would defeat it's purpose and comming from a small community of people who want products like that, it wouldn't be efficient for a big corporation to make something just like that. This idea is not bad however, if a manufacturer/designer does do a good job, it'd most likely be a 3rd party provider as mentioned above.

Are you aware of how SMALL THIN and LIGHT MS media is?

wilsonch_98
04-05-2003, 08:17 AM
IF the make the MS click on the flip cover, position right on top of the screen, maybe the overall thickness of TG-50 would not change...(might even fit 2 MS) :D

___
04-05-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Importluva


Actually, you're way off mark. The goal of a business or corporation is maximize cash flows. CASH IS KING. Profit maximization is a good concept, but not the way to go.

What benefit for sony? People will be able to buy more MS. More profit for them, as you would say.

Roflmao you obviously have not taking first year economics...let alone social studies. The goal of a business is to increase profits. That is a FACT.

___
04-05-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Importluva


Actually, you're way off mark. The goal of a business or corporation is maximize cash flows. CASH IS KING. Profit maximization is a good concept, but not the way to go.

What benefit for sony? People will be able to buy more MS. More profit for them, as you would say.

If Sony were wanting to maximize cash flow, why don't they sell all their Clies at half price, perhaps lower? I'm sure that would increase the cash flow a GREAT deal. Why do they OVERPRICE their products? Its because they are PROFIT oriented. I don't think there is any company who puts consumers ahead of themselves. That is completelty obsurd.

___
04-05-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Importluva


Actually, you're way off mark. The goal of a business or corporation is maximize cash flows. CASH IS KING. Profit maximization is a good concept, but not the way to go.

What benefit for sony? People will be able to buy more MS. More profit for them, as you would say.

I bet you don't even know what the hell an equilibrium price is. It is the price at which a product can be sold where the most consumers will buy, and at the highest price possible. This equilibrium price is the price where the company makes the most PROFIT.

s_n_m
04-05-2003, 11:49 AM
Please resisize your Sig. It's unfair to the rest of us. Please have some decency.

WGSquallx2002
04-06-2003, 04:40 AM
Now that you mention it...yeah MS is light and all. Well if they use the same plastic as the flip cover to make additional compartment mods for MS media, then I'd guess it'll work. It'll have to thicken up the whole device a bit, but if no one minds, sure. I've been thinking. If the flip cover thickens, the physicals of the whole unit won't be smooth and slick. It'll be bumpy on top ;). Your flip cover would buldge over adjacent to the bluetooth blinky light, the CHG, and REC lights, as well as the voice recorder itself. Haha sounds like I'm against it, but I'm not. I'm just saying. And my opinion to the one who talked about possibly fitting 2 MS sticks above the screen, it's a little too risky. A little bump here and there can bring the MS media and screen in contact, if I'm guessing they'd do it the way I pictured from your idea. =D I'm sorry, stay friendly! Just economics ;) doesn't concern us since we're not working for a big business like Sony.

ballistic
04-06-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by ___


How does SONY benefit from wasting money to design/implement a new cover just for YOUR benefit? If you've studied economics at a grade 1 level, you would already know by now that the goal of a business or corporation is to earn maximum profit.

I don't recall taking economics in 1st grade. ;)
I guess I was too busy learning social skills; how to play nice with others and how not to always start arguments when others have an idea that you don't necessarily agree with.

Having extra MS storage integrated with the built-in screen cover would be nice.