3.5 Upgrade Download/CD

[GetSource]

Hey all --
My wife was unlucky enough to get a still-in-bubble-wrap Palm VII that doesn't have PalmOS 3.5. Evidently, only the very first production version didn't already have it installed, and Palm won't sell the CD or download anymore.

Does anyone have this file/CD or know of a place I can get it?

Thanks =)

GS

[Tam Hanna]

Hi,
I have a prototype with 3.5 installed. Can a ROM dump help you?

[GetSource]

Hey there --
I think that would help, the only thing would be the app to flash the new rom to the VII then -- I'm not certain if an older version of the updater (I have the 3.2 updater) would do the trick or not.

Thanks a lot for your response -- appreciate it =)

GS

[Tam Hanna]

I am currently not in Vienna at the Vii. Please email me in two weeks at tamog@gmx.at

[GetSource]

Will do -- I apologize for the slow response forum-wise; for some reason I didn't receive notification of your more recent post =)

Have fun on vacation (or wherever you're visiting).

Thanks again,
GS

[Tam Hanna]

Still on vacation till end of week-so better email me!
Just came back from a day in Italy, had fun social engineering a gal for bandwith ;)

[Ayianna]

I just obtained a palm VII from a friend who never updated it.

I'm running on 3.2 and Palm's website does not offer 3.5 updates for the VII model.

Please let me know if any of you have update info!! :)

~~~Ayianna

[GetSource]

I didn't manage to get the upgrade CD yet, although last time I checked there were still some available on eBay. One day I'll probably order one from there, although it seems dumb, since the newer ones came with it from the factory >.<

Mike

[potter]

Maybe my memory is faulty, but as I recall:
The Palm VII shipped with Palm OS 3.2.
The Palm VIIx shipped with Palm OS 3.5.
Palm never offered a Palm OS upgrade for the VII or the VIIx.
Also, there actually were two different versions of the VII. The first used the Dragon Ball processor and had Palm OS 3.2.0. The second used the Dragon Ball EZ processor and used Palm OS 3.2.5. The VIIx used the Dragon Ball EZ processor.

[Tam Hanna]

Hi,
mine was used by a developer inside of Palms .net division. It runs OS 3.5 and does NOT have an EZ processor. In fact, after hardreset, it babbles sth about the upgrade lacking web clipping apps...

[Ayianna]

Actually, there are updates available for both the VII and the VIIx. The trouble is that there is no 3.5 upgrade from 3.2 or 3.2.5 to be able to continue the upgrade to 3.5.3.

I had a palm about a year ago that I upgraded from 3.2 to 3.5, but alas, they have removed that option from their website and every file database I can find does not have it either. :-(

Tam, do you know if it is possible to take the file from your palm and put it back on your computer?

*hope!*

~~~Ayianna

[pgenie]

Still on vacation till end of week-so better email me!
Just came back from a day in Italy, had fun social engineering a gal for bandwith ;)

Had fun social engineering a gal for badnwidth...Hmmmmmm!!! Thats something new! :rolleyes:

[GetSource]

Maybe my memory is faulty, but as I recall:
The Palm VII shipped with Palm OS 3.2.
The Palm VIIx shipped with Palm OS 3.5.
Palm never offered a Palm OS upgrade for the VII or the VIIx.
Also, there actually were two different versions of the VII. The first used the Dragon Ball processor and had Palm OS 3.2.0. The second used the Dragon Ball EZ processor and used Palm OS 3.2.5. The VIIx used the Dragon Ball EZ processor.


As far as I know, the second version released of the VII (not VIIx) did have 3.5(.2).
This is my reference: http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/hardware/compare.html

Note, Tam, I don't recall if you said you had utilities to get the ROM and flash it onto a different VII ... if you don't, are you aware of any that should work?

GS

[Tam Hanna]

Erm, I beleive that the upgrade was called Mobile Connectivity Kit or sth like that. THe Vii had OS 3.2 afaik, but *** said, mine babbles sth about an OS3.5 upgrade after a hard reset...

About ROM flashing. I would be ready to copy off the ROM from my more-less prototypish Vii. But the qustion is how...

And last but not least- I am once again in my vacation house in tyrol for 2 more days. And the gal, um, that was fun. Trust me, bandwith was the best thing on her..

[potter]

Hi,
mine was used by a developer inside of Palms .net division. It runs OS 3.5 and does NOT have an EZ processor. In fact, after hardreset, it babbles sth about the upgrade lacking web clipping apps...Well, all bets are off when it comes to a Palm developers device.

Actually, there are updates available for both the VII and the VIIx. The trouble is that there is no 3.5 upgrade from 3.2 or 3.2.5 to be able to continue the upgrade to 3.5.3.Minor terminology problem: Updates were minor patches that were installed in RAM and that changed the ternary version number. e.g. 3.5 or 3.5.1 to 3.5.3. Upgrades were major changes that reflashed the ROM and changed secondary and possibly the primary version number. e.g. 3.1 to 3.3, or 3.5 to 4.1.

As far as I know, the second version released of the VII (not VIIx) did have 3.5(.2).
This is my reference: http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/hardware/compare.html
Actually I had checked that exact page to try to validate some of my memory before I had made my first post. From that page, from footnote F2 (http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/hardware/compare.html#notes):F2 Some Palm VII handhelds have the original Dragonball CPU and some have the Dragonball EZ chip. ROMs contain Palm OS version 3.2.0 for non-EZ based models and version 3.2.5 for EZ based models. Production of EZ based models replaced non-EZ model production in December 1999.

Erm, I beleive that the upgrade was called Mobile Connectivity Kit or sth like that.Searching around on the web for anyone who still has the Mobile Connectivity Kit, for all of them that I can find, either the original (which contained the 3.5 upgrade) or the later (which contained the 4.1 upgrade), no one list the VII as a compatible device.

About ROM flashing. I would be ready to copy off the ROM from my more-less prototypish Vii. But the qustion is how...There is a utility that comes with the Palm OS Emulator that extracts ROM images off of actual devices. I understand it is possible to reflash another device with such a ROM image, but I have never seen instructions on how to.

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Hmm, a theory: Since the Palm VII is basically a Palm III or IIIx with the addition of a Transceiver, and since the Palm Net is no longer operational, would it be possible to flash VII with a ROM image meant for a III or IIIx (depending on which version of the VII one had)?

[Tam Hanna]

Hi,
to be honest, I wouldnt really trisk it. Man, please email me. I gotta look at that when I have time. ITs Tamog@gmx.at btw, and once its in my inbox, it usually gets done;)

[JohnKes]

The OS4.1 CD might still be floating around eBay. I know you can upgrade a Palm III with it, so it ought to work on a VII.

[Tam Hanna]

AFAIK,
OS4 is not possible foer the Vii series as they dont have enough ROM or something like that if I recall correctly. The good ole wioreles software must take up a lot of space...

[JohnKes]

The upgrade process would wipe out the wireless libraries, so that would not be the problem. The upgrade software simply might not allow installation onto a VII. I know it checks the Palm before continuing.

[Tam Hanna]

Hi,
but who knows that the OS can run on the Vii.
It would not be a problem to trick the program into beleiving that it runs on the intended handheld IMHO, but the wireless hardware may make problems...