ZLauncher Lounge - everything ZL

[SuperSaiyan]

Time to start anew the ZL praise/ideas/suggestions/info......etc., etc., etc.:D

 

http://www.zztechs.com/en/zlauncher/index.php4

[Lee]

I noticed a couple of days ago that the newest version is out (palmgear.com)

[tanker_bob]

Well, here's a testimonial. After reading the comments here over the last few days, I tried ZL last night for the first time. I had been happlily using MegaLauncher 3.2.2 for about a year. I was very impressed with ZL's power, configurability, appearance, and ease of use. The use of 16-bit color and high density OS5 icons really enhance the handheld experience. ZL displayed rock solid stability during testing. The only downside is its slow loading speed, even on my T665C. The support is also impressive, with frequent updates addressing user requests. Although I still like ML, it hasn't been upgraded in over a year and its 8-bit color interface is dated.

After a couple of hours playing with ZL, I registered it. The $12 is a great price compared to the competition. I'll probably give ML 4.0 a try when it is eventually released, although MegaSoft2000 seems obsessed with their games to the detriment of their launcher. In the meantime, its ZLauncher!

[jackster]

Is it necessary to create a shortcut in order to launch apps from the MS?

[ClieMarty]

No longer. Think it became obsolete with v1.5 or at least v2.0. currently zlauncher will display all apps on the mem stick (in folder palm/programs/launcher) on a separat memstick tab. you may then move the icons to any other tab you like (no specific "shortcutting"). remove the mem stick and the apps icons disappear - the mem stick tab will of course also disappear. you may still use shortcuts to link to apps which are positioned elsewhere on the stick. the whole process might be a little more complex than laucherx but i'm absolutely happy how zlauncher folks solved it.

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by jackster
Is it necessary to create a shortcut in order to launch apps from the MS?

No, it isn't. http://www.LaunchPlug.com/Launcher_ZL.html and http://www.LaunchPlug.com/Tips_ZL.html will give you some more info to work with. You just need to use the "Refresh Apps" option once in ZL to get it to scan your memory card the first time.

Cheers.

[ClieMarty]

Btw.: Me is registered user since v2.0 (~december). Those days, folks discussed about more convenient theme management. Well, we are at v2.21 already. Theme manager was integrated and improved. What more can u ask for. There may be other launchers, there may be folks favoring other launchers for speed or other reasons. But there is no better value for money IMHO.

Talking about speed. On my NR70V, I see the "please wait" dialog quite often recently (once quitting from an app). Don't think that I have auto-refresh on. Any clues? Not really annoying but hey, a little more speed won't do any harm.

[SuperSaiyan]

I'd love to see two things for ZL. First, a skinning utility that takes the headache out of making skins for those of us with no programming skills. Second, a grid system that allows for custom placement of icons (almost anywhere on the screen) This would allow for some really COOL backgrounds.

[aym]

Once again, I'd like to request that they add the feature YiShow has where you can have only your choice of columns and rows of icons, but they can be placed on the left so you can use backgrounds with the shadow boxes.

As long as I'm asking, I'd love to be able to do what I do with LX and have different icon view choices per tab. Big on one, small on another, list on a third, etc.

Aym

[ClieMarty]

ok, zztechs, then please give us
-> grid/free icon positioning and moreover
-> individuell settings per tab
make it a 2.5 then ;-)

btw. festus440 mentioned that he is on his way with a skin editor for zlauncher; i need that one badly; my skin is currently only photoshop psd level and a need something to bring the thing into the prc

[VicAjax]

this is probably obvious, but:

for those of you (like me) who hate to have all your apps cluttering up the /PALM/Launcher/ directory... you CAN run apps from other directories you create.  the only difference is that ZL won't create shortcuts automatically, you have to create them yourself (quite easily) or just go to whatever directory you created and launch directly from there.

if this is old news, please disregard and accept my apologies.

[LaStigmata]

ZLauncher Rules!

[LaStigmata]

Sorry for the last post I just realy wanted to get on the mail list for this thread.

Thanks.

[ClieMarty]

was not that old ;-) but may be an idea for further releases: having the possibility to specifiy let's say up to 5 stick directories which should be also monitored for apps. although I think we are finally reaching the "ms-office-dilemma": most additional features may probably just blow up zlaucher overall size and will only be used by a fraction of zlauncher-users.

[Derango]

Originally posted by LaStigmata
Sorry for the last post I just realy wanted to get on the mail list for this thread.

Thanks.

There's a link towards the bottom of the page "Subscribe to this thread"

You can just click that and you're on the mail list :)

[pigburger]

How about a better default skin then aquawood? I think that is one of the lamest front ends ever.

[tanker_bob]

Actually, I kinda like aquawood in transparent mode, but would like more choices. Backgrounds, too. I'm sure that will come with time.

I figured out my load time problem. I hadn't yet found the "Auto sync /Palm/Launcher/" setting, which causes ZL to scan that directory on the stick every time upon loading. Once I unchecked that, load time improved dramatically. Wooohooo!

[arinvolvo]

I just want to see left justified icons A LA yishow. And maybe a built in file manager.

[ClieMarty]

tanker_bob: thanks for the "auto sync remarks". overlooked this while busy updating all the time. no more "please wait" screens. will you marry me?

[ClieMarty]

the left justified icons should work with the "grid option" somebody requested. i hope the zz-guys will work on that group. instead of copying a feature that would zlauncher make even more unique.

a file manager is IMHO nothing which i do have to have in my launcher. if it comes as a nifty side app which makes my $12 investment an even better deal: why not.

another suggestion: i think there is this little reader application which is part of zlauncher. what about some other addins like this like something for pictures or something for txt-files. if already included please forgive. i'm unworthy.

[arinvolvo]

There is something like a plugin called Zreader or something of that sort...I believe it is a doc reader...I dont use it however...I never installed it.

I would also like a jpg viewer. built it...it is much easier to find the background I want to use on my mem stick if I can see it.

[tanker_bob]

ClieMarty,

You'll have to talk to my wife. :)

I also picked up HandStory Suite last night, and it does Docs, images, web clips, memos, and e-books. It works great and allowed me to pitch Avantgo, Weasel reader, and Fireviewer. Very cool. :cool:

BTW, how do you get hacks to "execute" from the hack tab in ZL? Tapping on them doesn't do the trick, and I don't see anywhere to drag them. I scoured the docs but they don't discuss hacks. The Doc tab is pretty cool, and the built-in reader does a fair job.

[SuperSaiyan]

An interesting thought (or maybe not) would be if ZZTECHS could create ZL "plug-ins" for those that want some added functionality and have the room for a little extra weight. The ZL reader kinda got me thinking about that. I dont use it but many probably do.

[ClieMarty]

tanker_bob,
i think we must skip that marriage thing then; don't get approval from my girlfriend either.

[ClieMarty]

plugin concept sounds great; simple picture viewer would be a perfect starter. such a function could also double as a preview option in theme manager. i do not change backgrounds all the time but it would be nevertheless nice. speaking of theme manager, there may be some room for a browse button to hunt for backgroups or whatever which are not in the proper zlaucher folder on the stick but will be moved to that place once selected.

[Mr Sheen]

I loved it since 1.5 and I registered at 2.0.

What I would like is the possibility to have different format for different tabs, i.e. icon for Main, list for doc on MS, ...

And also to be able to position the tabs left or right or top or bottom.

Best 12$ I spent on Palm stuff.

Sheen

[ClieMarty]

one remark to "aquawood": i'm currently working on two skin suites. one in very plain sony look for fitting standard silk and status bar. one inspired by some mac applications like iphoto (brushed metal). i call them suits because i tend to include (especially with brushed metal one) silk and status bar to have a perfect fit. i'm even thinking of a fitting icon file as well. that said: i do hope that festus will have the theme editor ready soon because i do not want to copy all the elements manually from photoshop to constructor.

[pipedaddy]

Arinvolvo: The theme manager has a "preview" function so you can make sure you're loading in the background you want.

Also, ZLauncher's "move" function works a lot like a file manager. In fact, I wish FileZ would incorporate the ability to tap on the destination folder on the MS when I'm moving files from RAM.

[ClieMarty]

pipedaddy, only half right. "preview" in theme manager works for themes and icons but not for backgrounds (at least not once i tried it). in theme manager there is a move function. but this is just for moving files which are already available there and that covers only files in ram and in the proper zlauncher directory

[ClieMarty]

to all you guys worrying about upgrading to nz90, look left: now that's a cam. and best thing: zlauncher runs on my new NY99 although it's already OS7 based. but with zztechs customer support it was no big deal ;-)

[n2ifp]

Z Launcher Rocks!!!

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by ClieMarty
pipedaddy, only half right. "preview" in theme manager works for themes and icons but not for backgrounds (at least not once i tried it). in theme manager there is a move function. but this is just for moving files which are already available there and that covers only files in ram and in the proper zlauncher directory

Make that half of half right... 1/4 right :). ZLauncher lets you "Preview" background images IF they are already converted and stored in RAM first. If they're on your MS though, the Preview button doesn't appear. That note is in my ZL "Power Tips" page at LaunchPlug.com as well, it was one of the odd things that I hope they get working in a later version (previewing images on the MS as well as in RAM).

Cheers.

[pipedaddy]

You can preview icons, too? D'oh!

[PurpleMD]

To automatically get icons for the apps on the memory stick, go to the menu, options, ZL Preferences and check the box that says to scan the palm/launcher folder.

Anyway...it worked for me!

BTW...I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!!! :)

[PurpleMD]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
An interesting thought (or maybe not) would be if ZZTECHS could create ZL "plug-ins" for those that want some added functionality and have the room for a little extra weight. The ZL reader kinda got me thinking about that. I dont use it but many probably do.

I believe they plan to develop more plugins...I heard it somewhere.

[PurpleMD]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
ClieMarty,

You'll have to talk to my wife. :)


Darn...you'd have been perfect...Christian, conservative Clie user! :cool:

[arinvolvo]

Hey Im a christian, conservative...and Im a clie user...but I am taken as of the 9th of this month I am engaged to be wed.

Too bad I never met you.. ;)

We could have been Mr. and Mrs. D.D.S. and M.D.

[pigburger]

I'm a vaguely catholic liberal, I feel oppressed!!!!

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by PurpleMD
Darn...you'd have been perfect...Christian, conservative Clie user! :cool:
Aw, shucks... :o

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by PurpleMD
To automatically get icons for the apps on the memory stick, go to the menu, options, ZL Preferences and check the box that says to scan the palm/launcher folder.

Anyway...it worked for me!

BTW...I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!!! :)

You can also leave that "auto scan" option off (so that ZL runs faster) and get your icons from the \Palm\Launcher\ folder by choosing "Refresh Apps" from the Options menu. That will make ZL manually scan for new programs. There's also a "Refresh" gadget in the Compact mode that I put at the bottom of the screen to do the same thing in one tap. Very convenient :).

Oh, and the first time you use the Refresh option, your new program icons will end up in the Unfiled category.

Cheers.

[sebring]

Originally posted by PurpleMD


Darn...you'd have been perfect...Christian, conservative Clie user! :cool:

Well at least he's a Clie user and now a ZLauncher user. But nobody's perfect.

PS: Hey, what kinda lounge is this? Somebody bring me a beer. How you doing Baby?

[LaStigmata]

Just tossed out a new skin for ZL over at Pocketphile.

http://www.pocketphile.com/profile.asp?Sect=Skin&RecID=142

Enjoy

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sebring
Well at least he's a Clie user and now a ZLauncher user. But nobody's perfect.
Aw, now you're hurting my feelings...:(

[tanker_bob]

Spradlinb,

As one knowledgeable in ZL, what can I do with the hacks displayed on the Hack tab? I can't seem to get them to do anything other than sit there. I would seem the you should be able to bring up their configuration screen or something in your hack manager. Thanks.

[SuperSaiyan]

I'd like the choice to select the top or bottom toolbar when selecting the UI transparency. I want to keep the top the way it is but make the bottom toolbar transparent.
I'm so picky :D

[alfa12]

I would exchange my Megalauncher for the ZLauncher if ZL were´nt so hefty on memory space! With background picture, skin and the other ZL-files it has over 700k, which is faaaaar to big for my liking... or is there a way to get the size down? With all those above-500k apps, no wonder RAM-space is getting smaller and smaller...

[Narniahopper]

I'm still trying to figure out how to get Apps onto the Favorites list. The built-in Quick Launch is easy enough to figure out with Commons and Recents, but I have found absolutely no way to put any apps into the favorites list (the most useful).

Any suggestions?

[rldunn]

You just drag an app to the QuickLaunch icon and it will be added to your favorites.

[Narniahopper]

So simple, yet so difficult to figure out.

[rldunn]

I know, I asked the same question and felt the same way when someone told me how to do it :)

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
Spradlinb,

As one knowledgeable in ZL, what can I do with the hacks displayed on the Hack tab? I can't seem to get them to do anything other than sit there. I would seem the you should be able to bring up their configuration screen or something in your hack manager. Thanks.

There doesn't appear to be anything you can do with the hacks in a Hack tab... it may be there just to help you list the hacks you're using, or they may be planning to integrate a hackmaster program into it at some point, I'm not really sure. I know that you can launch DAs by creating a DA tab. You can even then drag your DAs onto your Favorites icon and have them appear in your pop-up list, but Hacks don't seem to do anything right now.

Cheers.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by spradlinb


There doesn't appear to be anything you can do with the hacks in a Hack tab... it may be there just to help you list the hacks you're using, or they may be planning to integrate a hackmaster program into it at some point, I'm not really sure. I know that you can launch DAs by creating a DA tab. You can even then drag your DAs onto your Favorites icon and have them appear in your pop-up list, but Hacks don't seem to do anything right now.

Cheers.
Thanks, that matches my flailing. BTW, how do you get program OFF the favorites list? I dragged one on that I don't need there and want to get it off the list.

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

Thanks, that matches my flailing. BTW, how do you get program OFF the favorites list? I dragged one on that I don't need there and want to get it off the list.

That's another of the "room for improvement" items in ZL right now. Unfortunately, the only way to remove a program from the Favorites list is to clear out ALL the programs already in there... just access the "Quick Launch Setup" from the Options menu (or pop your favorites list up and tap on the "QuickLaunch+" text at the top of the list) and you'll see the options for it. The only thing you can do presently is clear them out completely and then rebuild. I suppose it isn't all that bad since you can only have a max of 10 favorites anyway, but it is a bit annoying. That's why I still use McPhling right now.

Cheers.

[sebring]

Originally posted by rldunn
You just drag an app to the QuickLaunch icon and it will be added to your favorites.

Have you figured out how to delete a single app from quicklaunch. It looks like you have to clear the entire list and replace the one you want.

OOPS: I didn't read the whole thread before I posted this question.

[sebring]

Bug still present in ZLauncher. Launching a DA with quicklaunch causes the clock in the NR task bar to quit updating, until a soft reset.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by spradlinb


That's another of the "room for improvement" items in ZL right now. Unfortunately, the only way to remove a program from the Favorites list is to clear out ALL the programs already in there... just access the "Quick Launch Setup" from the Options menu (or pop your favorites list up and tap on the "QuickLaunch+" text at the top of the list) and you'll see the options for it. The only thing you can do presently is clear them out completely and then rebuild. I suppose it isn't all that bad since you can only have a max of 10 favorites anyway, but it is a bit annoying. That's why I still use McPhling right now.

Cheers.
Thanks, again matches my investigation. I also use McPhling because it is available from any app, not just the launcher. I have ZL set to only present favorites, and McPhling presents the most recents. Nice synergy there.

[SuperSaiyan]

Has anyone tried out the Copperdeck II skin for ZL? It's the best one I've seen IMHO. NICE!

I really like the look of it in compact mode

[TongucYumruk]

Yes. CopperDeckII is great. I use it since I bought my T615 (1 month). But it will be better if I find the cool Black/Amber CDII background. I can't find it anywhere. Can anybody here help?

[SuperSaiyan]

You should be able to find it at www.pocketphile.com

I have 2 versions of CDII that I reformatted to 320x480 from the PC desktop wallpaper. Very cool.

If ya can't find them just PM me and I'll e-mail them to you.

-SS

[VicAjax]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
Has anyone tried out the Copperdeck II skin for ZL? It's the best one I've seen IMHO. NICE!

I really like the look of it in compact mode

cd ii is great looking... i love it.  the category icons really make this stand out... even the "please wait" icon is skinned.

there's another new skin i like a lot, even though it's not as thorough as cd ii: http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=302

 

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
You should be able to find it at www.pocketphile.com

I have 2 versions of CDII that I reformatted to 320x480 from the PC desktop wallpaper. Very cool.

If ya can't find them just PM me and I'll e-mail them to you.

-SS

Unfortunately, PocketPhile.com has been down for the past day or more... not sure why either.

Cheers.

[profvisor]

Palmgear

http://www.palmgear.com/software/an...FTOKEN=73090288

I like it a lot!

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
You should be able to find it at www.pocketphile.com



Any idea about pocketphile? Since last 2 days, cannot get into the site?

Sheen

[SuperSaiyan]

This is the look I've been searching for since the launcher was born! ZLauncher + Copperdeck II skin --- perfect balance of functionality and looks. ZL will only get better :D
http://www.taurustar.com/images/320_CDII_3.jpg
http://www.taurustar.com/images/320_CDII_1.jpg
http://www.taurustar.com/images/320_CDII_4.jpg

[iebnn]

ZLauncher needs real wallpaper support.... YiShow still beats ZLauncher in this aspect. ZLauncher still puts 300Kb files in RAM for each new wallpaper I try (very annoying and needless). YiShow only uses one temporary file in RAM each time you change wallpapers. Well, I know that these can now be put onto the mem stick, which is a lot nicer, but it's still a lot of space and is annoying to remove.

[sebring]

I keep all my ZLauncher background images on MS as approx. 50k jpg images. When I select one, in Theme Manager, it is converted to 300k and placed in RAM. When I select a different one or no backimage, the 300k copy in RAM is automatically deleted. An back image that originates from MS is automatically deleted when another image, or no back image, is selected. Images that were originally 300k images in RAM are not deleted when changed. I am using a NR. I consider it very efficient at handling back images.

[SuperSaiyan]

Whats to remove?
When I replace one background with another, the old file is removed from RAM and replaced with the file from the mem card. All of this done from the ZL theme manager in 2 taps. It couldn't be more easy or quick.

-SS

[doulos12]

Okay, I'm not using a Clié, Palm m130 actually, but this is the best info source I've found. Don't ban me. :^)

I'm using a Mac (7600, OS 8.6). How do I format the pictures so ZLauncher can use them as backgrounds?

BTW, I'm working on a lo-res skin if anyone cares. It's a mix of ruby & chrome. Oh, and that reminds me of a question: why do all my skins show up in the Theme manager as Aquawood, even though they don't show up that way in Filez or the ZLauncher card manager?

[froll]

Maybe it's me, but, how do you configure the top bar in the nw version. When I go to Top/Bottom bar configure, I can only do the bottom bar as before. I'm sure the answer is quite simple and I'm just missing it. BTW, I think ZL is fantastic. After waiting months and months for the ML update, I've concluded that it is in fact vaporware notwithstanding the betas that are out there. I agree w/ others that this was the best $12 I ever spent.

[Sid]

I'm trying ZLauncher again after reading the good things about it here at ClieSource. I have 2 questions which probably have been asked and answered before, so please be indulgent:
In compact mode, there is the expanede toolbar, can it be displayed in Tab mode?
How can I access backgrounds on the MS? I've gone to the Theme Manager screen but did not see a way to browse the MS.
Thanks in advance!

[ClieMarty]

sid, you need to place your backgoundfiles (jpg on clie, gif an all devices) in /palm/programs/zlauncher/backimage

[Sid]

Thanks ClieMarty !

[ClieMarty]

regarding the fact that i currently do not use pidirect, powerrun, ms-mount or any other app like that but have some apps moved with zlaucher. does one still need those apps? which programs need may not be moved to the stick with zl?

[sebring]

Originally posted by doulos12
Okay, I'm not using a Clié, Palm m130 actually, but this is the best info source I've found. Don't ban me. :^)

I'm using a Mac (7600, OS 8.6). How do I format the pictures so ZLauncher can use them as backgrounds?

BTW, I'm working on a lo-res skin if anyone cares. It's a mix of ruby & chrome. Oh, and that reminds me of a question: why do all my skins show up in the Theme manager as Aquawood, even though they don't show up that way in Filez or the ZLauncher card manager?

I use SplashPhoto's desktop, which formats them perfectly as jpg for use as backgrounds. Not sure, but I think SplashPhoto also has Mac version. If you can't use jpg, PG Lite files work as back images for ZLauncher.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by ClieMarty
regarding the fact that i currently do not use pidirect, powerrun, ms-mount or any other app like that but have some apps moved with zlaucher. does one still need those apps? which programs need may not be moved to the stick with zl?
Any app can be run from the MS, because the launcher just copies it to RAM before executing (kinda like a hard drive). I still use PiDirect II to keep large, read-only databases on the card. Also, some program suites like to see the other apps in the set for access inside the master program, but will only find its friends in RAM. These work fine in PiDirect II. But just to run standard apps, you don't need the virtual memory.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sebring
I use SplashPhoto's desktop, which formats them perfectly as jpg for use as backgrounds. Not sure, but I think SplashPhoto also has Mac version. If you can't use jpg, PG Lite files work as back images for ZLauncher.
The jpgs for YiShow backgrounds work perfectly in ZLauncher as well. ClieSource has tons of them in the skin file section.

[ClieMarty]

thanks bob

[sebring]

Originally posted by froll
Maybe it's me, but, how do you configure the top bar in the nw version. When I go to Top/Bottom bar configure, I can only do the bottom bar as before. I'm sure the answer is quite simple and I'm just missing it. BTW, I think ZL is fantastic. After waiting months and months for the ML update, I've concluded that it is in fact vaporware notwithstanding the betas that are out there. I agree w/ others that this was the best $12 I ever spent.

Configuring the top bar only works in Compact mode, I believe. It allows you to select which items to display among date/time, battery, RAM and MS. You can display any or all of them.

[Sid]

Originally posted by doulos12
Okay, I'm not using a Clié, Palm m130 actually, but this is the best info source I've found. Don't ban me. :^)

I'm using a Mac (7600, OS 8.6). How do I format the pictures so ZLauncher can use them as backgrounds?

BTW, I'm working on a lo-res skin if anyone cares. It's a mix of ruby & chrome. Oh, and that reminds me of a question: why do all my skins show up in the Theme manager as Aquawood, even though they don't show up that way in Filez or the ZLauncher card manager?

Try GraphicConverter, it can resize and change the format of any graphic image, plus it does a lot of other things too.

[Macabre Man]

Hi guys, whats this thread about?

I also own and use zlauncher, is this just like a undead thread but with a purpose? or an actual topic?? could it be? :)

Do you mind if I sit in and read??

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by tbellas
Hi guys, whats this thread about?

I also own and use zlauncher, is this just like a undead thread but with a purpose? or an actual topic?? could it be? :)

Do you mind if I sit in and read??
Only if you bring the pretzels. :D

For all,

BTW, you don't have to crop 320x480 YiShow background for a 320x320 screen in ZL. ZL will just cut off the bottom portion when displaying it. However, it will take up more RAM. If you don't crop the 480 jpgs, they take up about 300K in RAM when selected. Cropping them to 320 drops that to about 200K in RAM. I pulled some into Microsoft Picture Editor that comes w/M$ Office Tools and cropped them in there. Sim;le and effective.

Jpgs stored on the stick are definitely the way to go. Each bmp file took up about 200K at 320x320x16bit, but the jpg for the same picture is between 10k and 80K with the vast majority coming in around 10K to 40K. All expand to about 200K in RAM when active.

I've found ZL's Theme Manager to be an excellent and simple tool to manage themes. Way to go, ZZTech!

[SuperSaiyan]

Sure tbellas, grab a seat. Anything even remotely related to ZL is excepted

Question: When I view some of the wallpapers I have stored on the MS in AcidImage (thumbnail view), I just get a "?" as a thumbnail. It appears to be just JPGs but not all JPGs. Any idea's why?

I hope in the next update (in a day or two I'm sure) I'd like to see the favorites list upgraded. It would be nice to alter the list without having to rebuild the whole thing when you already have the max 10.

later guys. Gotta go protest the anti-American protesters in Wash DC.

http://www.taurustar.com/images/84_3dflagsdotcom_usa_2fawm.gif

[iebnn]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
Whats to remove?
When I replace one background with another, the old file is removed from RAM and replaced with the file from the mem card. All of this done from the ZL theme manager in 2 taps. It couldn't be more easy or quick.

-SS

I would rather have it not create any new PDB files on my memory stick when I select a new wallpaper. Why can't it just read off the JPG, create the wallpaper 300KB file in RAM, then read off the next JPG when I select a new wallpaper and replace that 300KB file with it? It seems to want to create a new PDB file on my memory stick, read off of that, and move the data into the 300KB file on my RAM.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by iebnn
I would rather have it not create any new PDB files on my memory stick when I select a new wallpaper. Why can't it just read off the JPG, create the wallpaper 300KB file in RAM, then read off the next JPG when I select a new wallpaper and replace that 300KB file with it?
ZL does exactly what you describe above on my T665C--automatically replaces the background in RAM with the new one created from the jpg on my stick. It doesn't add or subtract anything from my sitck. Do you have the latest ZL version, 2.21?

[kijaho]

For some reason, I am unable to use the hi-res 64K theme. Instead, I am using Sony 64K theme. It says that my device doesn't support the hi-res 64K them. I am using NX60 w/ OS 5.0. Can anyone help? Thanks.

[pigburger]

the hi-res 64K probably doesn't support the hi-res + that the Sony 64K does, hence it won't let you load it.

[DeadRadis]

Hi! It appears that I can't customize the buttom bar in the setup menu. I can move icons, but they don't show anywere on the bar except the two last on the right. Is it because the "full" bottom bar does'nt show up in 320x320 display? Does anyone have an idea? Thanks!

Rick

[Sid]

Originally posted by DeadRadis
Hi! It appears that I can't customize the buttom bar in the setup menu. I can move icons, but they don't show anywere on the bar except the two last on the right. Is it because the "full" bottom bar does'nt show up in 320x320 display? Does anyone have an idea? Thanks!

Rick

Try being in "Compact" mode instead of "Tab" mode.

[doulos12]

Originally posted by Sid Try GraphicConverter, it can resize and change the format of any graphic image, plus it does a lot of other things too.

GraphicConverter won't recognize the format of the included SandBeach files. Honolulu's OS X one, which works on my Palm, won't open in GC either.

Oh, and it's not a standard FireViewer PDB. Fireviewer doesn't recognize ZL background images.

[xyeta]

Originally posted by DeadRadis
Hi! It appears that I can't customize the buttom bar in the setup menu. I can move icons, but they don't show anywere on the bar except the two last on the right. Is it because the "full" bottom bar does'nt show up in 320x320 display? Does anyone have an idea? Thanks!

Rick


Is there enough space for your icons? If you have battery, memory and MS display enabled, you will only have room for a few bottom bar icons.

[doulos12]

Originally posted by sebring I use SplashPhoto's desktop, which formats them perfectly as jpg for use as backgrounds. Not sure, but I think SplashPhoto also has Mac version. If you can't use jpg, PG Lite files work as back images for ZLauncher.

PG Lite?

[pigburger]

I'm just about converted though I haven't deleted Yishow yet, I waited so long on making the launcher deciding Yishow was the best, then suddenly shortly after zlauncher comes out. Is there a way to import more hi-density icons to be assigned to various apps. It's tough because the built in app icons look so good then you see avant go and by older programs and they look horrible in comparison.

Also, what do you think zztech is going to add this week to zlauncher?:)

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by doulos12
PG Lite?
PictureGear Lite, Sony's graphic management, conversion, and transfer program on the desktop. It comes on the CD with your Clie.

[LaStigmata]

I find myself not wanting to put much effort in creating skins for ZLauncher right now because of the frequent updates. But thats fine I will take function over looks any day.

Can't wait for this weeks update.

Wait, what happens when the updates stop?

What will we do?

What happens when the updates stop, then will we have what everyone wants?

[pigburger]

I refuse to be 100% with anything, it's my nature.

[tanker_bob]

One could argue that dissatisfaction is the engine of progress...

[LaStigmata]

Originally posted by pigburger
I refuse to be 100% with anything, it's my nature.

Me too, but where does it end? does it end? should it end?

What happens when ZZTECH gets tired of putting the effort in to the updates? will they get tired? are they allready tired?

I need a shrink, or do I? what would a shrink tell me? would I want to here it? could he help me? what if he don't?

HELP!

[pigburger]

I think zztech is that girlfriend that truly deserves to be made our wife with her honest efforts to make us happy. We acknowledge her efforts but due to our own stupidity refuse to commit. I admit, I'm stupid, ask my wife....

[Sid]

I am finding ZLauncher to be powerful, flexible, visually appealing and fun to use, however, I am wondering about its footprint. On my T665 ZLauncher is using 888K of space, is this normal/average?
This is what I have installed:
ZLauncher
ZLauncher Manager
CopperDeck II Theme
CopperDeck II Backimage

[BTW, CopperDeck II is a fantastic theme]

NO Icon set, No ZDoc Reader

This is my only complaint about ZL, its size.

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by pigburger
I think zztech is that girlfriend that truly deserves to be made our wife with her honest efforts to make us happy. We acknowledge her efforts but due to our own stupidity refuse to commit. I admit, I'm stupid, ask my wife....
LOL. Seriously, though, I've made the "commitment" -- as have many others -- and paid my $12. It felt good. :)

[tanker_bob]

That sounds about right. CopperDeck II's backimage is the largest of my collection, but I don't use it. It's nice, but not as nice as the jpg images that pack my background directory. :)

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
That sounds about right. CopperDeck II's backimage is the largest of my collection, but I don't use it. It's nice, but not as nice as the jpg images that pack my background directory. :)

I don't know what 's is in your BG directory :D , but CDII as a whole is awesome. I have some pretty good BG pictures, but I switched to CDII bait, hook, line and rod :)

Sheen

:cool:

[jomoco5]

Originally posted by Mr Sheen
...switched to CDII bait, hook, line and rod :)

SheenYou forgot 'sinker'.

;)

[Sid]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
That sounds about right. CopperDeck II's backimage is the largest of my collection, but I don't use it. It's nice, but not as nice as the jpg images that pack my background directory. :)

T_B,
How about posting a screenshot with one of your nicer than CopperDeck backimages? I'm intrigued.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Sid


T_B,
How about posting a screenshot with one of your nicer than CopperDeck backimages? I'm intrigued.
I've never done screen shots. I just loaded a bunch of beautiful scenery, astronomical, and airplane jpgs. Some were originally YiShow backgrounds from ClieSource, and I had others on my hard disk.

[Sid]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

I've never done screen shots. I just loaded a bunch of beautiful scenery, astronomical, and airplane jpgs. Some were originally YiShow backgrounds from ClieSource, and I had others on my hard disk.

OK.
Despite its size, I may become a convert to ZLauncher, it has the beauty of YiShow with the practicality of Launcher X.

[tanker_bob]

ZLauncher's size had a side benefit for me. It finally made me do something about replacing Avantgo with an app that supports VFS. FWIW, I chose HandStory Suite, which does a great job and replaced three apps on my Sony: Avantgo, Fireviewer, and Weasel Reader. Made room for more ZL backgrounds. :)

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

I've never done screen shots. I just loaded a bunch of beautiful scenery, astronomical, and airplane jpgs. Some were originally YiShow backgrounds from ClieSource, and I had others on my hard disk.

They're really easy, and actually come in handy quite often once you start using them. You can get them stored directly onto your MS as Bitmaps with about two taps, and all the software is freeware. Just follow the tutorial I have for it at http://www.LaunchPlug.com/HRCaptDA.html and you'll be off like a shot :). No pun intended...

Cheers.

[spradlinb]

I'm holding off on registering it at the moment, but not for any real reason. I just haven't used up my 30 days yet, so haven't had a need to send them money just yet. I still haven't been able to switch over "cold turkey" from YiShow yet either, because ZL doesn't have a file manager that's easy enough to use yet. I know, many people will say "just use McFile or Filez" and I have both of them installed and registered, but in YiShow and even LauncherX it's easier to move files around without having to start another program up first. Once ZL has that ability I have a feeling I'll be able to switch over for good.

Cheers.

[pigburger]

I'm waiting for the integrated bottle opener in ZL 2.22, that would be a launcher worth marrying....

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by pigburger
I'm waiting for the integrated bottle opener in ZL 2.22, that would be a launcher worth marrying....

Doesn't the empty MS slot double as that? :D

[pigburger]

Egads man, that's how I toasted my T415!!! Aluminum cases can't hold up to that abuse, though I think my NR is magnesium. Hmmm.....

[SuperSaiyan]

the tap/hold - copy to/move to brings up a basic ZL file manager. Which is really most of the file managing I do anyway.
Although, I still have a copy of McFile if I require anthing else.

-SS

[Galley_SimRacer]

Copperdeck II is an impressive theme, but the dark background is not useful, since I have many black icons that do not show up against it.

[jomoco5]

Originally posted by pigburger
I'm waiting for the integrated bottle opener in ZL 2.22, that would be a launcher worth marrying....

Hmmmmmm. I'd settle for one that washed dishes. =)

[doulos12]

spradlinb mentioned the tutorial on Launchplug for screenshots. Nice tutorial. Now, as to Mac support, will the files created by HRCapt be openable w/ GraphicConverter?

What freeware screenshot DA would any of you recommend? I used to use DAScrShot, but that doesn't seem to work w/ color.

[deadlyfoez]

You guy were previously talkin about plugins. I would like to see a voice reconition plugin for the nx, and tt, and new nz90. Image, press a button, say a word, get a program started. The capture button on the nx would be awesome for that.

I would also like to see costomizable sounds in zl too. And some animation, or animated backgrounds, or a way to change the contrast or brightness of a pic through the theme manager to quickly adjust an image for easiest icon/picture viewability.

just my 0.02

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by doulos12
spradlinb mentioned the tutorial on Launchplug for screenshots. Nice tutorial. Now, as to Mac support, will the files created by HRCapt be openable w/ GraphicConverter?

What freeware screenshot DA would any of you recommend? I used to use DAScrShot, but that doesn't seem to work w/ color.

The screenshots are automatically saved as Bitmap images on your Memory Stick, in a specific folder (\Palm\Programs\HRCaptDA\ I think) that you can then copy directly to any computer to view, as the tutorial at my website states... in fact, Note three on my tutorial has this:

"Note Three: To use the images captured to your memory card, use any card reader or the MSImport program on the Clie line to move your files to your Mac or PC. You can open the .bmp files in the \Palm\Programs\HRCapt\ folder of your memory card with almost any graphics program."

So, there you go! :). As far as I'm aware, HRCaptDA is currently the only freeware screen capture program that works in full color and hi-res as well as hi-res plus. The others do not have color or full screen capture, as you mentioned with DAScrShot, and others like ScreenShotHack are shareware. I have ScreenShot as well, but use HRCaptDA more often because it doesn't require a converter at all to view your images and because it stores them right onto your MS, something that ScreenShot doesn't do at all.

Cheers.

[SuperSaiyan]

si ereht emos nekcuf nosaer uoy lla era gnirongi ym stsop? :mad:

[deadlyfoez]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
si ereht emos nekcuf nosaer uoy lla era gnirongi ym stsop? :mad:

Either noone knows the answer, or noone cares. You don't need to get vulgar. 

[jomoco5]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
si ereht emos nekcuf nosaer uoy lla era gnirongi ym stsop? :mad:

You posted?


LOL!

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
si ereht emos nekcuf nosaer uoy lla era gnirongi ym stsop? :mad:

What did you want answered? Your last post just stated that you used the tap/hold to move files around, but you didn't really ask for any response to it... I tend to move more than just the programs themselves around though, from RAM to the card, so the options available are too limited for me at times in ZLauncher. That's where I like YiShow's ability to list all the files in RAM to move them to the card or back. I could use McFile to do the same, but like I mentioned in my earlier post, it's just more convenient to do so through the launcher itself, if possible.

Is that the response you were looking for?

Cheers.

[tanker_bob]

For anyone that's interested, I posted a review of ZLauncher 2.21 on PDA Avenue (http://www.pdaavenue.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=13772#post13772). I tossed in some helpful hints as well based on my limited experience to date.

[deadlyfoez]

I've got a few problems problem. One, I want to disable icon texts for my programs, but not for my mem stick, and it will remove the names of directories and files on ms if in icon setup, you uncheck "show icon names".

Also, in "tab properties" for the ms, if you make it a hidden tab, when you remove the ms, then plug it back in it locks up my nx70v. I try to hide it cause I hate that it pulls up the ms directory every time I put a ms in.

Anyone got ideas for my dilema??
Anyone else expieriencing the same problems?

thanx

[pigburger]

Does anyone have issues with programs not showing up in zlauncher, but are definitely installed because they show up in the default launcher and Yishow?

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by pigburger
Does anyone have issues with programs not showing up in zlauncher, but are definitely installed because they show up in the default launcher and Yishow?
Not that I've noticed. Anything consistent?

[pigburger]

The demo of ricochet wouldn't show up and the trial of 3d air hockey just refuse to show up in zlauncher. It happened first with ricochet which I ended up deleting it and forgot about the problem, but then when loaded up air hockey, it wasn't there. I loaded the os 5 version first which showed up fine but it was the wrong version. When I went for the regular hi-res version it wasn't visible in zlauncher.

[doc10house]

Problem I've come across is that I use a lot of third-party apps that don't have resident hi-res icons. These really spoil the look of this otherwise-gorgeous launcher. Problem is, when you put them in Palm/Launcher and autosync them, appicon doesn't recognize them. If you put them in a different directory and make shortcuts, appicon works like a dream.

Any way around this? Autosyncing would sure speed things along.

Dr. T.

[sebring]

Originally posted by pigburger
Does anyone have issues with programs not showing up in zlauncher, but are definitely installed because they show up in the default launcher and Yishow?

If you install them directly to MS, they won't show up until you refresh apps, otherwise they should be in the unfiled tab.

[gutty]

I just checking the ZL and it looks quite OK.

does anyone knows how to set up the favorites in the quicklauncher+ :confused:

[doc10house]

Problem I've come across is that I use a lot of third-party apps that don't have resident hi-res icons. These really spoil the look of this otherwise-gorgeous launcher. Problem is, when you put them in Palm/Launcher and autosync them, appicon doesn't recognize them. If you put them in a different directory and make shortcuts, appicon works like a dream.

Any way around this? Autosyncing would sure speed things along.

Dr. T.

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by gutty
does anyone knows how to set up the favorites in the quicklauncher+ :confused: Just drag an app to the Quicklaunch icon on the toolbar, and it'll be added to the list.

[doc10house]

1) Not sure why it posted my same reply twice...sorry 'bout that.

2) You can always make "haze boxes" which cover more real estate so they're applicable for use in ZL; you just need to size them & place them differently than for YS.

Dr. T.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by deadlyfoez
I've got a few problems problem. One, I want to disable icon texts for my programs, but not for my mem stick, and it will remove the names of directories and files on ms if in icon setup, you uncheck "show icon names".

Also, in "tab properties" for the ms, if you make it a hidden tab, when you remove the ms, then plug it back in it locks up my nx70v. I try to hide it cause I hate that it pulls up the ms directory every time I put a ms in.

Anyone got ideas for my dilema??
Anyone else expieriencing the same problems?

thanx
1) The only setting I can find for individual app icons is global. Therefore, the behavior you describe is as designed at the moment. If you choose not to display the text from any tab's app icons, they are not displayed on any tab.

2) Palm OS automatically select the card to view when a new card is inserted. I guess they figured you put that stick in for a reason related to what's on it. Sounds like there is a conflict in ZL, in that the OS said display the card tab, but it's hidden in ZL. You should probably email ZZTech about this. They've been very responsive to my inputs so far.

I have my application MS set to Autorun the built-in launcher upon insertion. This is so that if I have to do a warm reset and hence don't have hi res support, that I can get to my apps to fix whatever problem that caused me to warm reset. MegaLauncher wouldn't execute in low res, so I was literally stuck after a warm reset. I had McFile assigned to a button for a while, but I needed that button for Shadow. This solution is quite elegant and works perfectly.

[deadlyfoez]

I e-mailed the zztechs and they e-mailed me back saying that all those problems will be fixed in the next version

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Sid


T_B,
How about posting a screenshot with one of your nicer than CopperDeck backimages? I'm intrigued.
Thanks to the instructions on spradlinb's outstanding website (http://www.launchplug.com/HRCaptDA.html), I downloaded and set up HRCaptDA on my T665C. Here's just a couple of shots of my backgrounds. CopperDeck is the skin in all.

http://www.cliesource.com/gallery/data/500/292yosfalls_cdii_hidden.jpg




















http://www.cliesource.com/gallery/data/506/292rainier_cdii_compact.jpg




















http://www.cliesource.com/gallery/data/506/292jupiter_cdii_tabbed.jpg





















Hope that gives you an idea. Enjoy!

[ClieMarty]

Somebody mentioned a new version? I would say it is definitely time for 2.3. I'm getting a little bored ;-)

[Vegeta2006]

I have encountered this alooong time ago when I first used ZLauncher. How may of you have noticed this. (Using Mcfile or Filez, look at the ZLauncherDB). My ZLauncherDB file is 414K and the psysLaunchDB is 286K!!! In the beginning , when I used "other" launchers, they would have a small DB file and the psyslaunchDB would be 200K in size. Keep in mind that i use PowerRun religously and my files leave at least a 1KB shortcut each. I have about 300 apps, games, etc that I run in RAM and from my 128MB MS; this 300 does NOT include the apps that I run in ROM using JackFlash. I would love it if ZLauncher would be smaller in the future, but I am still a ZLauncher user for life. It is the best $12 I have spent on any Palm software. I have seen it grow from a boy to the king of the launchers that it is today. Their support cannot be beat!!!

How big are YOUR ZLauncherDB files compared to the psysLaunchDB files? How many apps are you running from the MS and in RAM?:confused:

[ClieMarty]

gee, vegeta, 300+ apps/games, how many of them on the stick do you use powerrun/pidirect with; i currently only move apps via zlauncher but do not use apps like pidirect

[tanker_bob]

135 apps spread between RAM, ROM, MS, and PiDirect if I counted them right. The bulk of them are on the MS. Never actually counted them before. :) psysLaunchDB is 79K and ZLauncherDB is 166.5K.

[ClieMarty]

tanker_bob; which apps do definitely need pidirect or something like it and which ones can be moved by zlauncher. heard something that once would need pidrect once databases are involved? or to move databases? think moving apps with zlauncher won't move the "sourounding" files of an app?

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Vegeta2006
I have encountered this alooong time ago when I first used ZLauncher. How may of you have noticed this. (Using Mcfile or Filez, look at the ZLauncherDB). My ZLauncherDB file is 414K and the psysLaunchDB is 286K!!! In the beginning , when I used "other" launchers, they would have a small DB file and the psyslaunchDB would be 200K in size. Keep in mind that i use PowerRun religously and my files leave at least a 1KB shortcut each. I have about 300 apps, games, etc that I run in RAM and from my 128MB MS; this 300 does NOT include the apps that I run in ROM using JackFlash. I would love it if ZLauncher would be smaller in the future, but I am still a ZLauncher user for life. It is the best $12 I have spent on any Palm software. I have seen it grow from a boy to the king of the launchers that it is today. Their support cannot be beat!!!

How big are YOUR ZLauncherDB files compared to the psysLaunchDB files? How many apps are you running from the MS and in RAM?:confused:

107 apps combined, 103 from the MS card. Running CD-II

ZL DB is 340K

PL DB is 203K

ZL ROCKS!!!

PiDirect doesn't work in OS5 :(

[tanker_bob]

No app of which I'm aware requires PiDirect to operate. The main use for PiD is to store and access large read-only databases quickly. For instance, I have WordSmith's dictionary and thesaurus under PiD. They appear to WS like they are in RAM, and the load incrementally which makes access fast. Same for Messier's large picture database. Apps that are VFS-enabled and well written don't need PiD to keep large databases on the stick.

I use Star Pilot Advanced's support apps on PiDirect so that they appear in RAM and can find each other to link together. They aren't VFS-aware and hence won't find each other in /Palm/Launcher/. I also have some large apps that embed their databases in the app file. These act like read-only databases and load much faster from PiD. PiD's sole function is to provide virtual memory from the card.

Moving apps with any program of which I'm aware does not move their databases. That includes ZL. You have to find and move all the parts yourself. Unless an app is VFS-enabled or you use PowerRun, all databases on the stick will be read-only. PowerRun loads the entire database to RAM when accessed and writes it back to the stick when done. This can be a slow process for large databases.

Hope that helps. I have a VFS primer on my website that covers this issue, as does spradlinb (http://www.launchplug.com/).

[ClieMarty]

thanks a lot tanker_bob; what is Messier's large picture database by the way?

[tanker_bob]

You're welcome!

It's a collection of pictures of galaxies, nebula, etc., with code numbers. It's part of Star Pilot Advanced.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
No app of which I'm aware requires PiDirect to operate. The main use for PiD is to store and access large read-only databases quickly. For instance, I have WordSmith's dictionary and thesaurus under PiD. They appear to WS like they are in RAM, and the load incrementally which makes access fast. Same for Messier's large picture database. Apps that are VFS-enabled and well written don't need PiD to keep large databases on the stick.

I use Star Pilot Advanced's support apps on PiDirect so that they appear in RAM and can find each other to link together. They aren't VFS-aware and hence won't find each other in /Palm/Launcher/. I also have some large apps that embed their databases in the app file. These act like read-only databases and load much faster from PiD. PiD's sole function is to provide virtual memory from the card.

Moving apps with any program of which I'm aware does not move their databases. That includes ZL. You have to find and move all the parts yourself. Unless an app is VFS-enabled or you use PowerRun, all databases on the stick will be read-only. PowerRun loads the entire database to RAM when accessed and writes it back to the stick when done. This can be a slow process for large databases.

Hope that helps. I have a VFS primer on my website that covers this issue, as does spradlinb (http://www.launchplug.com/).

Right and Thank you for the info! I still miss PiDirect though, and yes I am familiar with Brian's excellent website. Hopefully, someday we won't have to jump through hoops and it'll work transparently. :)

[sebring]

148 apps total between MS and RAM
psyslaunchDB 105k
ZL DB 273k

I use MSMount for my large read only DBs on MS.

Tanker_Bob, great looking pictures.

[Vegeta2006]

I run the apps with the large databases with PowerRun from the Memory Stick (My Diary, Serial Watch, PalmaSutra, Avantgo, Pocket TV Browser, etc.). I run the smaller apps straight from the PALM/Launcher folder (calcs, converters, etc.). I run the apps that I use daily from ROM (Checkbook, YAPS, Agendus, Acid Image, Wassup, etc). I run my games from the MS with PowerRun (so I won't lose any scores or anything). I wonder why the ZLauncherDB is almost twice as large as the psysLaunchDB? If only ZLauncher could slim up the ZLDB...Hmmmm,but how??

[spradlinb]

Somewhere around 65 apps in \Palm\Launcher\:

psysLaunchDB - 90K
ZLauncherDB - 162K

I don't use PiDirect for anything anymore, since all the major programs I use are VFS aware by now. I never really mind the longer delay in launching programs with the Launcher itself rather than PiDirect, so I've been quite happy without extra programs to access my MS so far.

Looks like I'll have to try the Copperdeck theme out pretty soon! :)

Cheers.

[ClieMarty]

Originally posted by Vegeta2006
I run the apps with the large databases with PowerRun from the Memory Stick (My Diary, Serial Watch, PalmaSutra, Avantgo, Pocket TV Browser, etc.). I run the smaller apps straight from the PALM/Launcher folder (calcs, converters, etc.). I run the apps that I use daily from ROM (Checkbook, YAPS, Agendus, Acid Image, Wassup, etc). I run my games from the MS with PowerRun (so I won't lose any scores or anything). I wonder why the ZLauncherDB is almost twice as large as the psysLaunchDB? If only ZLauncher could slim up the ZLDB...Hmmmm,but how??

vegeta, seems there is a lot to do for me ;-) what did you use to move agendus to rom? did you use the icons to rom as well? what about changes in the icon db? did you encounter any problems with updating agendus (recently 6.0/6.01).

[spradlinb]

tanker_bob mentioned something (so finder's credit goes to him :)) that made me notice a new option in ZL that nobody has mentioned just yet, but is VERY nice to have!

ZLauncher 2.20 and above (with the Theme Manager) does not require you to use exactly sized images for backgrounds! It actually now "tiles" any images that you want to use, no matter what size they are. If the image you use is larger than your screen, say 400x400 pixels, then it just displays the top-left section of that image and chops the rest of it off. The big drawback with something like this is that ZL will still copy the entire image to RAM, so that a really large image will take up even more RAM than a properly sized image would. That's what tanker_bob found earlier, but I took it a step further as well.

Not only can ZL use images larger than the screen, but it can also use images much smaller than the screen! I took an image of snowflakes that is meant to be tiled for website backgrounds that is 200x200 pixels (shown below) and used it as a ZL background (also shown below). As you can see from the screenshot, it tiles perfectly and fills the full 320x320 pixel screen without any problems. Best of all, this image only takes 79K of RAM to use!

So, if you want you can even use the snowflake JPEG I'm using below yourself (had to use it today, getting snow for the next two days in Nebraska) or find any other tile web background that you would like.

I've added a note about this to the http://www.LaunchPlug.com/Tips_ZL.html page and will also add it to the Launcher_chart.html page in the "Perks" section in a moment.

Cheers.

http://www.LaunchPlug.com/pictures/Blue_snowflake_patch.jpghttp://www.LaunchPlug.com/pictures/screenshot_flake.jpg

[abe214]

Hello everyone, maybe this lounge can help me out. I'm still having crashes with PiDirectII with ZL after accessing the mem stick data via MS Import. However, no crashes if I turn off PiDirect before doing just that.

What am I doing wrong? I've a couple of data and apps off to MS via PiDirect on my T665.

Help....

aBe

[sebring]

Originally posted by abe214
Hello everyone, maybe this lounge can help me out. I'm still having crashes with PiDirectII with ZL after accessing the mem stick data via MS Import. However, no crashes if I turn off PiDirect before doing just that.

What am I doing wrong? I've a couple of data and apps off to MS via PiDirect on my T665.

Help....

aBe

I use MSMount instead of PiDirect, but I have it configured to disable when I run MS Import. I believe you can do the same with PiDirect. I have no crashes using MS Import with this configuration. Other apps in my MSMount disable list are McFile and Hotsync.

[ClieMarty]

also discovered that a while ago, spradlinb; probably with some other treat ;-) anyhow, works with 320x480 as well and of course with all the tile images one has with windows.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sebring
I use MSMount instead of PiDirect, but I have it configured to disable when I run MS Import. I believe you can do the same with PiDirect. I have no crashes using MS Import with this configuration. Other apps in my MSMount disable list are McFile and Hotsync.
There is indeed an app-specific setting for PiDirect to disable and rescan when MS Import is run. That's how I set it up and it works fine. I've had no conflicts between ZL 2.21 and PiDirect II 2.0 so far. I use MS Import extensively.

That said, I had a confirmed conflict between PiDirect II 2.2 and SwitchDash 0.44 that resulted in hi res support being deactivated. Hi res could then only be recovered after a soft reset. That could be the original problem, which would be manifest when ZL tries to reload but doesn't have the OS support it had before MS Import was run. PiTech was less then helpful to say the least, so I reverted to version 2.0. Haven't had any problems since.

[tanker_bob]

spradlinb,

Nice detective work! I saw the tiling as a minor annoyance when my jpg cropping was less the pristine. Thanks for thinking creatively. :)

BTW, I didn't want to mess with screenshots on my T665C (had bad experiences on the desktop with them) until I read your tutorial on Launchplug yesterday. I downloaded the DA and had it running under McPhling in less than a minute using your configuration hints. You see the results in this thread. Thanks yet again for a great, informative site!

[sebring]

tanker_bob and spradlinb, if you two start kissing each other, I'm gonna be sick.:rolleyes:

Just kidding, we need more recognition of other people's hard work. Both of you have great sites.

[jomoco5]

Originally posted by sebring
tanker_bob and spradlinb, if you two start kissing each other, I'm gonna be sick.:rolleyes:

OMG! LOL!!!!

All kidding aside, I've referred to both sites on numerous occasions, and think you BOTH do a terrific job!

Keep up the great work! :)

[tanker_bob]

I thought this was a kinder, gentler Source ;)

But seriously, you can't ask and we don't have to tell... :D

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by sebring
tanker_bob and spradlinb, if you two start kissing each other, I'm gonna be sick.:rolleyes:

Just kidding, we need more recognition of other people's hard work. Both of you have great sites.

LOL... can't you just feel the love here at ClieSource? :D

[ksjenkins]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

There is indeed an app-specific setting for PiDirect to disable and rescan when MS Import is run. That's how I set it up and it works fine. I've had no conflicts between ZL 2.21 and PiDirect II 2.0 so far. I use MS Import extensively.

That said, I had a confirmed conflict between PiDirect II 2.2 and SwitchDash 0.44 that resulted in hi res support being deactivated. Hi res could then only be recovered after a soft reset. That could be the original problem, which would be manifest when ZL tries to reload but doesn't have the OS support it had before MS Import was run. PiTech was less then helpful to say the least, so I reverted to version 2.0. Haven't had any problems since.

 

I had used PiDirect II for a long time. I set it to disable during HotSync and MSImport use. Since ZL has evolved at such a rapid pace I now no longer really need PiDirect. I now run apps directly from the MS! I've only found a couple of old games that do not work with ZL running off the MS.

 

 

[abe214]

Thanks everyone for the tip esp sebring & t_bob. Just saw that setting. Surprisingly, no more crashes!

[Sid]

Tanker Bob,
Thanks for posting the screenshots, nice images. Sorry for the late acknowledgement.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Sid
Tanker Bob,
Thanks for posting the screenshots, nice images. Sorry for the late acknowledgement.
You're welcome. Not saying you have a life, are you? I'd be jealous. ;)

[Sid]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

You're welcome. Not saying you have a life, are you? I'd be jealous. ;)

Sometimes I have a life :p

[Sid]

I've been trying to copy files (.jpg images) from the YiShow Wallpaper directory to the ZLauncher Backimage directory on the MS using ZLauncher . I use the tap and hold pop-up menu and choose "Copy To" then browse to the destination directory and choose "OK", there are no error messages, but the file is NOT copied to the new directory. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.

[Shamrock]

KSJENKINS - Without PIDIRECT, what do you use to access data on your MS for programs that don't support VFS? ie. you can run 'em but can you use 'em?

[tanker_bob]

I just did (almost) exactly what you described and it worked for me. Only difference is that I don't have YiShow and copied a file from PictureGear instead. I can't think of a Preference setting that affects this. Is there room on the stick for the copy? Have you tried to copy another file from a different directory to your target directory?

[doulos12]

I've mentioned this once before, but I haven't found the answer yet. I can get a jpg onto my Palm m130 (OS 4.1) (No, I don't have a Clie, but this is the only ZLauncher discussion area I can find on the web. Know of others?) "Back Image" shows up in the menu when I tap on it, but I get an error when I try to convert it, presumably because I'm missing the necessary Sony decoder.

Is there a way to convert a jpg to a ZLauncher background without a Clie?

[sebring]

Originally posted by Sid
I've been trying to copy files (.jpg images) from the YiShow Wallpaper directory to the ZLauncher Backimage directory on the MS using ZLauncher . I use the tap and hold pop-up menu and choose "Copy To" then browse to the destination directory and choose "OK", there are no error messages, but the file is NOT copied to the new directory. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.

Some of the jpg images in the YiShow background directory don't work directly, for some reason. I have gotten them to work by opening them with PhotoShop or SplashPhoto and re-saving them as jpg and then they work. It may be some of those that won't copy. I'm not having any trouble moving and copying the images on my MS back and forth from the ZLauncher Backimage directory, using ZLauncher's pop and hold menus.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by doulos12
I've mentioned this once before, but I haven't found the answer yet. I can get a jpg onto my Palm m130 (OS 4.1) (No, I don't have a Clie, but this is the only ZLauncher discussion area I can find on the web. Know of others?) "Back Image" shows up in the menu when I tap on it, but I get an error when I try to convert it, presumably because I'm missing the necessary Sony decoder.

Is there a way to convert a jpg to a ZLauncher background without a Clie?
You have to convert it to a bitmap on the PC first, then sync it directly to the card. ZL will use bitmaps on any device, but jpgs only on Sony devices that have hardware decoding. You can use MS Paint or MS Photo Editor to convert, or any of dozens of third-party PC graphics apps.

[williepalm]

Originally posted by Sid
I've been trying to copy files (.jpg images) from the YiShow Wallpaper directory to the ZLauncher Backimage directory on the MS using ZLauncher . I use the tap and hold pop-up menu and choose "Copy To" then browse to the destination directory and choose "OK", there are no error messages, but the file is NOT copied to the new directory. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.

 

Might be something to do with the "read only" option? Maybe try checking the file's info and uncheck the read only properties. Just a suggestion.

[sebring]

Originally posted by doulos12
I've mentioned this once before, but I haven't found the answer yet. I can get a jpg onto my Palm m130 (OS 4.1) (No, I don't have a Clie, but this is the only ZLauncher discussion area I can find on the web. Know of others?) "Back Image" shows up in the menu when I tap on it, but I get an error when I try to convert it, presumably because I'm missing the necessary Sony decoder.

Is there a way to convert a jpg to a ZLauncher background without a Clie?

The jpg decoder software first came with the NR series, I believe. You may be able to get the software and install it on your Palm, but it probably still won't work since the Clies are 16bit hires and I believe some of the decoding is hardware based.

[deadlyfoez]

I don't know if this will help anyone, but you don't have to put images into anykind of a directory. Just put in the ms with the pics on it. When ZLauncher pulls up the ms tab (or just go over and click the tab), goto the directory the pics are stored in. Click and hold on the image icon of the image you want. It will pull up a menu, and goto "back image". It will put the picture as a background image. Then it will automatically show up in theme manager.

Just a little tip for people who like "The other way" of doing things.

[sebring]

Originally posted by deadlyfoez
I don't know if this will help anyone, but you don't have to put images into anykind of a directory. Just put in the ms with the pics on it. When ZLauncher pulls up the ms tab (or just go over and click the tab), goto the directory the pics are stored in. Click and hold on the image icon of the image you want. It will pull up a menu, and goto "back image". It will put the picture as a background image. Then it will automatically show up in theme manager.

Just a little tip for people who like "The other way" of doing things.

The downside of doing it this way is when you change back images, the old 300k backimage stays in RAM unless you manually delete it. If you just store jpg copies in the Zlauncher Backimage directory, when you change from one to the other, the previous 300k backimage file is automatically deleted. This does not delete the jpg source file from the backimage directory, just the 300k file in RAM.

[doulos12]

I should've mentioned: I use a Mac (OS 8.6). I can get GIF & JPEG files onto the card, but for some reason, it won't sync bmp files onto the SD card.

[doulos12]

Oh, and renaming it "....bmp.pdb" doesn't help, either. It'll add it to the card, but it doesn't know what to do with it.

[williepalm]

You cant sync non .pdb or .prc file . You will have to drag n drop using the MsImport.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by doulos12
Oh, and renaming it "....bmp.pdb" doesn't help, either. It'll add it to the card, but it doesn't know what to do with it.

There is an app called CardExport that you can get that works just like MSImport, but for the Palm. I think it's like $15 or $20 though. You might also look into getting an SD card reader. There around $20-30 if you look around. You will probably want one of these anyway because I had an m130 and the card reader made a HUGE difference in speed. It's about 10 times faster. But only get one or the other as they both serve the same purpose.

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by Sid
I've been trying to copy files (.jpg images) from the YiShow Wallpaper directory to the ZLauncher Backimage directory on the MS using ZLauncher . I use the tap and hold pop-up menu and choose "Copy To" then browse to the destination directory and choose "OK", there are no error messages, but the file is NOT copied to the new directory. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.

You aren't doing anything wrong, it's just a limitation of the Palm OS on the Clies right now. The reason a "Copy To" or even a "Move To" won't work with JPEGs in ZLauncher is because ZL's file management isn't all that complex, to keep it smaller. Thus, when you move something from one part of your memory card to another, it doesn't just move it directly on your memory card. Instead, ZL has to copy the file to RAM first, then delete the original version on the card, then copy the version from RAM to the new destination on your memory card, then delete the version from RAM as well... and the problem you're seeing right here is that it's impossible to store any files that don't end in .pdb or .prc on the RAM of a Palm OS machine. Even if you simply add the .pdb or .prc to the end of your JPEG file name it still probably won't work.

So, in the end you should try either using MSImport to move files around on your card, or use a more capable file manager like McFile on your PDA. McFile IS able to move any file type from one folder on the card to another directly, without copying it directly to RAM, so there's no problem moving images with it the way you want to. It's a great program to have around too, although it isn't free.

<edit>I just tried to move a JPEG directly with my T665C and ZLauncher, and it worked fine, so what Clie model are you using? I noticed that it doesn't work on my version of POSE, which is using a T615C ROM, so it may be a hardware specific problem with moving JPEGS... after all, the T665C has a JPEG decoder that may allow it to move the files, while the T615C does not...</edit>

Hope that helps explain it for you :)

Cheers.

[ksjenkins]

Originally posted by Shamrock
KSJENKINS - Without PIDIRECT, what do you use to access data on your MS for programs that don't support VFS? ie. you can run 'em but can you use 'em?

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Shamrock:

The&nbsp;only program that I use that&nbsp;isn't VFS aware is&nbsp;Planetarium (lots of Databases)! Other than that I've pretty much weeded out the programs that don't work or behave badly. I usually run with about 1.5MB of main RAM free so I have lots of apps and dbs in main RAM. I've experimented to find the apps that can run on the MS. ZLauncher has come a long way in allowing my older programs to run off the MS.&nbsp;Early ZL was hit and miss with what would run off the MS (lots of crashes).

For ZL if you put the programs in the /Palm/Launcher directory, they should show up as a runnable app.

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[Sid]

spradlinb,
Thanks for the thorough answer.
I am using a T665.
I tried moving a Picture Gear image (as Tanker Bob suggested) from the MS to ZL backimage directory, but that did not work either.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Sid
spradlinb,
Thanks for the thorough answer.
I am using a T665.
I tried moving a Picture Gear image (as Tanker Bob suggested) from the MS to ZL backimage directory, but that did not work either.
This is very strange. The PG image is a pdb file, so even if it copied to RAM as spradlinb suggested, the pdb file should have copied. This sounds like a stupid question, but is the hardware switch on the back of the MS set to copy protect?

[Sid]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

This is very strange. The PG image is a pdb file, so even if it copied to RAM as spradlinb suggested, the pdb file should have copied. This sounds like a stupid question, but is the hardware switch on the back of the MS set to copy protect?

Copy protect is off .
I tried McFile and was able to move a .jpg from YiShow Wallpaper to ZLauncher BackImage.
Here's a McFile question: Is it possible to beam, or remove copy protection from a locked file as it is with FileZ? I could not find a way to do it.

[zeke87]

Just found something out. I have replaced the default launcher w/ZL, and after doing a hard reset, when ZL went to load the apps, it gave me all these categories with repetitive UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU as the tab. Must've been looking for the categories, but couldn't find them.

Please excuse my useless comment. Kinda funny.

[williepalm]

Originally posted by Sid


Copy protect is off .
I tried McFile and was able to move a .jpg from YiShow Wallpaper to ZLauncher BackImage.
Here's a McFile question: Is it possible to beam, or remove copy protection from a locked file as it is with FileZ? I could not find a way to do it.

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In McFile, tap on the name of the file, select properties and then uncheck the read only box.

[Sid]

Originally posted by williepalm


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In McFile, tap on the name of the file, select properties and then uncheck the read only box.

"Read Only" is NOT checked, but "Beam" is not a choice in the pop-up menu when I tap and hold the app in question. I have no immediate need for this function, but a good file manager should be able to do this, and it's one of the things I try when demo-ing a file manager.

[boomer]

Will LX/LIII shortcuts work in ZL?

[Mr Sheen]

What 's wrong with ZZTechs? 11 days have passed and no update!

Come on guys,

Sheen

[wid4008]

Originally posted by Mr Sheen
What 's wrong with ZZTechs? 11 days have passed and no update!

Come on guys,

Sheen

Hey Mr Sheen, I hope that you can understand that those great
guys at Zztech are also human beings just like us and they have
already done a great job. Even if they don't update as long as
the competitors don't, its alright for me.
They have ALREADY done enough to impress me (and I believe
hundreds out there who own Zlauncher).

And come to think of it, they are providing ALL the upgrades for
us FREE OF CHARGE and we are only paying a mere miserable
sum of $12 to them.

I am personally a BIG fan of Zlauncher (from megalauncher) and
sometimes I really hope that people can be more understanding
to Zlauncher developers and not just asking for this n that and
expect that everything you wish for will come out exactly the
same and fast.

Three cheers for Zlauncher's developers!

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by Sid


"Read Only" is NOT checked, but "Beam" is not a choice in the pop-up menu when I tap and hold the app in question. I have no immediate need for this function, but a good file manager should be able to do this, and it's one of the things I try when demo-ing a file manager.

That's odd... when I go to any of my files in McFile I can tap and hold on them for a second to get the pop-up menu, and "Beam" is always one of the options. It's possible that the Beam function is only available when you register the software, but rest assured that it IS in there :). If I remember right, you can beam any .pdb or .prc file from McFile to any Palm OS PDA directly, but if you want to beam a .jpg or any other file extension, then the person you're beaming to needs to have a memory card and McFile running as well... not certain about that, but I know that you can't beam a .jpg to a PDA without a memory card, because it wouldn't accept any files that didn't end in .pdb or .prc.

Anyway, hope that helps! McFile is a great file management program, and I've ended up using it more than Filez these days.

Cheers.

[Sid]

Thanks again spradlinb!
I didn't think there was any function limitations in the demo, just a time limit.

[Sid]

Originally posted by boomer
Will LX/LIII shortcuts work in ZL?

The Avantgo shortcut I made in LX is still working when I use ZLauncher, I even have moved LX to the MS with PowerRun.

[tanker_bob]

There are some files that are beam-inhibited. They are generally system files or copy-protected. They have an attribute set called "Prevent Beam", but the only program I've found that provides access to it is Z'Catalog and its successor T-Catalog. They provide access to virtually all the file attributes. Even Filez doesn't access that attribute in the files I just checked, and I checked one that's beam-inhibited.

[boomer]

Good!

But this&nbsp;means I have a problem -&nbsp; when I tap the icon for QuickSheet [not the shortcut] it creates a duplicate of the app in RAM that is not deleted when I go back to ZL. I now have a copy of QuickSheet in RAM and in the /launcher folder.

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Am I doing something wrong?

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[Sid]

boomer,
I don't think I can help you any further at this point, sorry, maybe Tanker Bob or spradlinb could weigh in.

[PurpleMD]

Originally posted by boomer
Good!

But this&nbsp;means I have a problem -&nbsp; when I tap the icon for QuickSheet [not the shortcut] it creates a duplicate of the app in RAM that is not deleted when I go back to ZL. I now have a copy of QuickSheet in RAM and in the /launcher folder.

&nbsp;

Am I doing something wrong?

&nbsp;

That happens with me too...with Shadow and PalmReader. I just delete them. Should probably send a message to ZZTechs.

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by wid4008


Hey Mr Sheen, I hope that you can understand that those great
guys at Zztech ....
Three cheers for Zlauncher's developers!

:D

Where is your sense of humor?

Sheen

[wid4008]

Originally posted by Mr Sheen


:D

Where is your sense of humor?

Sheen

Ha ha! So I see you meant that as a joke.

Sorry to have taken it too seriously.

In my desperate attempt to 'protect' those great guys at Zztech,
I hope that I have not cause any hard feelings.


:D

[Sid]

I have CopperDeck II, and I've looked at the Skins section here at CS, but is there anywhere else to get Themes for ZLauncher?
Thanks.

[tanker_bob]

There are some at ClieSkins (http://www.clieskins.com/).

[Sid]

Thanks TB!

[tanker_bob]

You're quite welcome! :)

[Shamrock]

I am NOT bashing ZLauncher with this question. I LIKE it.

I have an NR70 and am using ZL in HiRes with the COPPERPLATE skin and a single color background I don't even have HiRes Icons loaded yet and it looks like there are over a MEG of files required!!! Am I looking at this wrong (I used MSGATE which shows files that are associated together in a single group)? Is this considered acceptable and how does it compare with others?

[ClieMarty]

Shamrock, zLauncher is known to use quite some RAM (at least I have all zLauncher components there). Think most other launchers do have a smaller footprint. On the other hand, i favor the guys at zztechs first building up that thing and add functions and take care about the footprint at a later stage.

[tanker_bob]

I'm running CopperDeckII skin w/a photo background and icon set on a T665C, and ZL is using 1.056K with the manager. Nothing comes free. :)

[Sid]

I've come to accept the large size of ZLauncher because of all its good points, (and I'm only on day 7 of the 30 day trial) but it would be great if the size could be reduced in the future without sacrificing the present features.

[Shamrock]

Thanks guys! I agree that getting something that does what you want and is fat is preferable to skinny and featureless. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't reading things wrong.

OK, so I got such great response from "folks that know", how about this one. Most of my catagories have more than a screenful of icons (I have lots of software). In HiRes+ mode I can't figure out how to grafitti a letter to get further down into the list. How do you guys do this?

[Mugs]

How do most people like LauncherX as compared to ZLauncher - I've been using LauncherX only because I have updated from Launcher III ( I was using a visor Prism with a memplug which required the LauncherIII program, and the update to LauncherX only cost me about $7. ?????

[Mugs]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
You're quite welcome! :)

Outstanding Avatar - from F-14 Aviator and Flight Doc

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[doulos12]

Sid, also try http://www.palmspirit.com but it's French. Babelfish translates nicely.

And OT: Anyone know of a non-clié site for ZLauncher & other Palm skins info & forums, or an e-mail listserve, for that matter? All the good ones are Clié specific.

[sebring]

Originally posted by Mugs
How do most people like LauncherX as compared to ZLauncher - I've been using LauncherX only because I have updated from Launcher III ( I was using a visor Prism with a memplug which required the LauncherIII program, and the update to LauncherX only cost me about $7. ?????

Launcher X is fine. It has a couple of features I'd like to see incorporated in ZLauncher. They are better file management (which improves in ZLauncher with each release) and the Shortcut stubs that make it possible to store apps on MS that ordinarily have to be in RAM to hotsync. That said, I much prefer ZLauncher because of the active development of the product and responsiveness of the developer. Launcher X has been long on promise and short on delivery for about a year or so. To my knowledge they haven't even fixed some of the known bugs, let alone added features. The last version I had on my Clie was v1.02, which I beleive is still the current version.

[Sid]

Originally posted by doulos12
Sid, also try http://www.palmspirit.com but it's French. Babelfish translates nicely.

Thanks doulos12 / Dale,
Question: How do I get Babelfish to translate that site?
Thanks again.

[doulos12]

http://babelfish.altavista.com Enter the URL on the page.

[Sid]

Originally posted by doulos12
http://babelfish.altavista.com Enter the URL on the page.

Thank you!

[tanker_bob]

Their ZLauncher skins are here (http://www.palmspirit.com/phpmalogitheque/details_cat.php3?cat=30). Nothing really new there, though.

[Shamrock]

RE: No grafitti in Zlauncher.... I take it you guys are stuck like I am with using the scroll button. Sure is clunky.

[ClieMarty]

games/apps on memory stick

we had some thoughts about moving apps/games to memory stick earlier in this thread. regarding games (and their according high scores): what is the best way.

tried moving just the game app with zlauncher which "deleted my high score". as i am currently testing pidirect, would that be a solution or would a need to use powerrun ???

tia

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by ClieMarty
games/apps on memory stick

we had some thoughts about moving apps/games to memory stick earlier in this thread. regarding games (and their according high scores): what is the best way.

tried moving just the game app with zlauncher which "deleted my high score". as i am currently testing pidirect, would that be a solution or would a need to use powerrun ???

tia

I've never had a program lose their high scores or registration data when moving JUST the program to the memory card, but it is possible. YiShow has an "All Delete" option that would do exactly that if it was checked in the options, but I couldn't find anything like that in ZLauncher. How did you move the programs to your memory card? I would suggest following the steps I have set up at http://www.LaunchPlug.com/Launcher_ZL.html to move just the programs themselves to your MS. This should leave all of your high score and other databases in RAM all the time. It doesn't save you as much RAM since the databases of some programs are much larger than the programs themselves, but with games you usually don't have very large databases associated with them.

I'd actually caution you against using PiDirect for your files if you are trying to move your databases as well as the program files. This is because PiDirect is a "Read-Only" way to store your files, so if you ended up keeping your high score database on your memory card with PiDirect, you wouldn't be able to write any of your new high scores to it at any time. In fact, it usually causes a reset error whenever anything tries to write to a file that is being stored with PiDirect.

PiDirect does have its uses though, and http://www.LaunchPlug.com/VFSenabled.html goes through some of them and also explains the ups and downs of the other options you have for your memory card.

Hope that all helps!

Cheers.

[ClieMarty]

thanks a lot, spradlinb, will check your site on this. any hints regarding a solution for storing databases on the stick AND being able to write to it? i mean besides VFSaware apps.

[tanker_bob]

PowerRun (http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=15540520020827092256&prodID=15870) is the only program of which I'm aware that copies the data file to RAM and then back again. Folks that use it appear to be happy with it. It's shareware, so you can try it out and see if it matches your needs. spadlinb's (http://www.launchplug.com/VFSenabled.html) site and my primer talk about its general functionality as compared with other programs.

[clieconverted]

Need some help with ZLauncher. I have loaded all necessary apps including the standard skin. However I cannot figure out how to replace the skin. I went to the skins section and downloaded a ZLauncher skin, but it will not take. I have the ZLauncher mgr on my clie nx-60 as well. I did try the search, but as most find the archives being lost makes it tough.

Can anyone elighten me into changing the skin.

Thanks.

[sebring]

Originally posted by clieconverted
Need some help with ZLauncher. I have loaded all necessary apps including the standard skin. However I cannot figure out how to replace the skin. I went to the skins section and downloaded a ZLauncher skin, but it will not take. I have the ZLauncher mgr on my clie nx-60 as well. I did try the search, but as most find the archives being lost makes it tough.

Can anyone elighten me into changing the skin.

Thanks.

You don't use ZLauncher Manager to change skins. To change skins, in ZLauncher open the main menu, select "Options" then Theme Manager. There are three tabs in Theme Manager, one for themes, one for icon sets and one for backimages. Tap one of those tabs and you will get a dropdown list of items available. By the way, the theme, icon set or backimages have to either be in RAM or in their respective ZLauncher directories on MS for them to appear in Theme Manager.

If the new themes, icon sets or backimages are in RAM, you can use Theme Manager to move them to MS. I believe Theme Manager automatically creates the correct directories on MS if they don't already exist.

[tanker_bob]

Install the skin either to RAM, or better, to /Palm/Programs/ZLauncher/Theme/. Then go to setup in ZL and tap on Theme Manager. The themes are the first tab. Note that 320x480 themes will not work on 320x320 devices.

[clieconverted]

Ok. I think I got it. But one stupid question. Where is the main menu and options. I have use allot of launchers, but cannot find either. I like the fact that I can have the themes on my memory stick.

[clieconverted]

Never mind. I figured it out. When I loaded the themes onto the Palm I don't have a background yet. So I need to install that too. But I found that. So now I need to do that next. There is allot more to get used to thats for sure.

[doulos12]

Has anyone else noted that, when installing multiple themes, some or all show up as aquawood? At least, the one I'm working on does, as does Honolulu's OS X skin. Copperdeck doesn't, though.

So I'm guessing it's a problem in the skin itself, so next question: how do you change that?

[tanker_bob]

Hmmmm. I've never seen that, but I only use Aquawood and CDII.

[LaStigmata]

Originally posted by doulos12
Has anyone else noted that, when installing multiple themes, some or all show up as aquawood? At least, the one I'm working on does, as does Honolulu's OS X skin. Copperdeck doesn't, though.

So I'm guessing it's a problem in the skin itself, so next question: how do you change that?

It's in the batch file that they use to assemble them. The only way to change them is to dis-assemble them and re-assemble them changing the name in the batch file to the name you want. This sounds harder than it is.

[LaStigmata]

The way these skins are made is to dis-assemble the aquawood theme, edit the images of the aquawood theme then re-assemble them. If this is done without editing the batch file and changing the name, they will be called Aquawood.

[doulos12]

Okay, I'm just editing the graphics with Constructor. How do I disasemble, rename, & reassemble? Tutorial? I'm not a programmer--just a resource editor.

[LaStigmata]

OK, here goes.

1 Get these off of the Internet:
a. PRCExplorer http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=40542
b. pilrc.exe
http://www.ardiri.com/index.php?redir=palm&cat=pilrc&subcat=download

2 Make a Folder called Skins (or somthing like that)
3 Copy the aquawood.prc to this folder
4 Open PRCExplorer
5 Use PRCExplorer to open the Aquawood.prc
6 Once open goto up to File, then down to Save Source.
7 Save the source to the folder you created earlier.
8 Close the PRCExplorer, now you will find a bunch of bmp file's in
this new folder.
9 Edit the images the way you like. ( this you know how to do)
10 When done you will find that when you saved the source and
got all those bmp's that a rcp file was also created. ( this file
contains all the info on reasembleing the images)
11 Now to create a bat file. Use notepad or something like that
and make a file that looks like this:

@echo off

..\pilrc.exe -ro -type THME -creator ZLCR -name "the_name_that_you_want_to_call_your_new_theme" "the_name_of_the_rcp_file_you_are_using".rcp "the_name_that_you_want_to_call_your_new_theme".prc



echo If no errors are listed above, the theme should be ready to load.




pause

(without the quote marks)
then save it as "thememaker.bat" in the same folder you created earlier
12 Now copy pilrc.exe to this same folder
13 Now run the bat file
14 Your new skin should now be in the folder you created.

If this does not work I have left something out.
But I think it is close (This is all from memeory) Please forgive!

Good Luck!

[LaStigmata]

An example of a bat file may look like this:

@echo off

..\pilrc.exe -ro -type THME -creator ZLCR -name ZLT_MyTheme_SonyHR_64K ZLT_Aquawood_SonyHR_64K.rcp ZLT_MyTheme_SonyHR_64K.prc



echo If no errors are listed above, the theme should be ready to load.




pause

Hope his helps!

[clieconverted]

I noticed that the default look is Aquawood too. I was finally able to get teh tool bars from the skin I wanted, but still having trouble with the background. I have loaded jpg file onto the ms using splashphoto and them copying it into, where? I put it into the background folder, but nothing shows. Any suggestions.

Also someone commented on another thread that the reason we get 11MB instead of 14MB (like Palms) is that Sony holds some back in a cache. Is this done for the MP3 playback and movie playback?

Thanks for everyone's help. I like the look and feel of Zlauncher but its a learning curve.

[sonycrazie]

I've noticed that whenever I do a Refresh Apps, additional app. icons for applications that resided in the memory stick will be created again in the Unfiled category. I have to creat another Tab to store the overlapping App Icons and hide the tab. Is it normal or do I miss something here to avoid double-icons.
I'm new to ZLauncher and the reason for Refreshing is that I couldn't find an app. I've just synced and have thought that Refreshing may bring it up. By the way, I'm a T615 user.

[sebring]

Originally posted by sonycrazie
I've noticed that whenever I do a Refresh Apps, additional app. icons for applications that resided in the memory stick will be created again in the Unfiled category. I have to creat another Tab to store the overlapping App Icons and hide the tab. Is it normal or do I miss something here to avoid double-icons.
I'm new to ZLauncher and the reason for Refreshing is that I couldn't find an app. I've just synced and have thought that Refreshing may bring it up. By the way, I'm a T615 user.

A couple of things will cause duplicate icons.

1) If you have created shortcuts to your apps in MS with ZLauncher. Since v1.5 shortcuts are no longer required to categorize apps on MS.

2) If you have used Launcher III or Launcher X and created shortcuts in them. They don't get deleted when you uninstall those apps and can cause duplicate icons in ZLauncher.

There may be others, but those are two that come to mind. The cure is simply to delete the short cuts, unless you are using a LX or LIII shortcut to make an app appear to be in RAM for some reason (ZLauncher shortcuts don't serve that purpose)

[sonycrazie]

Thanks Sebring. But I was using ML and LIII or LX are not even in the database so there shouldn't be any Shortcut there. I've just noticed something weird, app icons from different tabs were reassigned to Unfiled for no reason. Does anyone has any clue why the ZL is doing this??

[???]

Hi, can anyone tell me what is the ZlauncherDB?
This file is 312kb on my clie.
It is for saving the catergories?
If it is, can I safely delete it and recatergorize icons again?
Thanks in advance!

[sebring]

If you want to re-categorize icons, I'd just uninstall ZLauncher and reinstall it.

[doulos12]

sonycrazie, you may have 2 copies of the app, one on the card, and one on the clié. That'd show 2 copies.

[???]

Originally posted by sebring
If you want to re-categorize icons, I'd just uninstall ZLauncher and reinstall it.

Thanks sebring.
But if I re-categorize icons, will the ZlauncherDB filesize decrease?
Are they related?:confused:
(I have installed and uninstalled many apps)

[???]

Thanks! :)

[ClieMarty]

we might need to wait a little longer for the next update; zztechs are in holidays from february 1st to 8th ;-(

[doulos12]

Mac users:
http://discussion.brighthand.com/palmhandhelds/showthread.php?threadid=15468&highlight=zlauncher

Got that today from ZZTechs.

[doulos12]

http://infinityltd.bravepages.com/images/michromescreenshot.gifFor some reason, I can't type in the text field of "Post Reply," so I'll just announce that I've finished a new lo-res ZLauncher skin (&amp; some backgrounds). It's on the Palm page of my website (see sig). Oh--no download link for the skin yet. I'm going to put it on Palmgear so I can track download #s/interest, and they're currently down for site maintenance. I'll have a link by Monday night, hopefully sooner, but I'll be OOT the next couple days.

[doulos12]

http://www.lcmspastor.com/images/michromescreenshot.gif
There we go.
(No, I haven't registered ScreenShot (http://www.linkesoft.com) yet, because I'm hoping to use ScrShot (http://www.fatal-error.com/scrshot.html)
instead, and I'm waiting for the developer to fix the Mac conduit, which is
giving me errors.)

Feedback welcome, and if someone can do some screenshots for me, private message me, and I'll send you a copy.

[pbr]

looks pretty nice. why don't you post the file in the skins section here at cliesource? i would like to try the skin out...

[doulos12]

http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=96846820030131075222&prodID=47044

[Sid]

Spradlinb,
Would you consider making a ZLauncher version of your excellent "Event Horizon" YiShow skin/theme?
Thanks!

[Tixx]

Originally posted by doulos12
http://www.lcmspastor.com/images/michromescreenshot.gif
There we go.
(No, I haven't registered ScreenShot (http://www.linkesoft.com) yet, because I'm hoping to use ScrShot (http://www.fatal-error.com/scrshot.html)
instead, and I'm waiting for the developer to fix the Mac conduit, which is
giving me errors.)

Feedback welcome, and if someone can do some screenshots for me, private message me, and I'll send you a copy.

Doesn't work on HiRes devices does it.:(