ZLauncher Lounge - everything ZL

[doulos12]

I don't know. I don't have a hi res device to test it on. Now accepting donations. ;)

I thought about making a hi res version, but there are already a ton of hi res ones out there, and the only lo res ones besides this are copperdeck and OS X. And making a hi res version would detract from making another lo res one or other projects.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by doulos12
I don't know. I don't have a hi res device to test it on. Now accepting donations. ;)

I thought about making a hi res version, but there are already a ton of hi res ones out there, and the only lo res ones besides this are copperdeck and OS X. And making a hi res version would detract from making another lo res one or other projects.

I'd be more than happy to donate once I decide to buy ZLauncher:) Testing it now. There aren't that many HiRes Skins that I can find, at least not here on ClieSource compared to other launchers.

[doulos12]

No, I mean I want someone to donate a Clié to test them on. :D

Keep in mind that skinning is fairly new w/ ZLauncher (as am I--30 days not expired yet), as earlier versions didn't have as much functionality, AFAIK (someone else who knows explain better), and some like SilverScreen have been around a long time. But there are several at http://www.palmspirit.com and also try [http://www.clieskins.com[/url] IIRC.

Since my only handheld is a Palm m130, I have little motivation to do hi res. Especially when there's such a poverty of lo res ones.

[crh3f]

I saw someone mention ZLauncher having document support, and that you could set up a "doc" tab and it reads most formats. How do you get the docs into that tab from within their respective readers (ie, iSilo)? You can't "drag and drop" them; is there another interface I haven't discovered yet?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by doulos12
No, I mean I want someone to donate a Clié to test them on. :D

Keep in mind that skinning is fairly new w/ ZLauncher (as am I--30 days not expired yet), as earlier versions didn't have as much functionality, AFAIK (someone else who knows explain better), and some like SilverScreen have been around a long time. But there are several at http://www.palmspirit.com and also try [http://www.clieskins.com[/url] IIRC.

Since my only handheld is a Palm m130, I have little motivation to do hi res. Especially when there's such a poverty of lo res ones.

:)

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by Sid
Spradlinb,
Would you consider making a ZLauncher version of your excellent "Event Horizon" YiShow skin/theme?
Thanks!

You'll have to ask robgentile here... he's the one that designed the graphics for the skin, I just put it together and hosted it on my site since I have quite a bit of experience with making YiShow skins. You'll have to convince him to make all of the button graphics for a ZL skin, then I would probably be able to put it into ZL at some point :)

However, there are considerably more graphics in a ZL skin compared to a YiShow skin, which means it takes much longer to design and compile one than with any other launcher that has existed to date... that's why I haven't made a ZL skin at all yet, even though I like the launcher itself. It just takes forever to make a replacement for all the graphics that are necessary. ;)

Cheers.

[doulos12]

ZL skins don't take that long. I was able to put michrome together in about 8-10 hours. Kaleidoscope http://www.kaleidoscope.net schemes take a whole lot longer than that.

Not volunteering for anything, though. :)

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by doulos12
ZL skins don't take that long. I was able to put michrome together in about 8-10 hours. Kaleidoscope http://www.kaleidoscope.net schemes take a whole lot longer than that.

Not volunteering for anything, though. :)

Yeah, but "not that long" is a very relative phrase :) Where you spent 8-10 hours to create a skin, I would have had a YiShow skin done in about 5 hours... so you can see where it's quite a jump in the time needed to create a skin for ZL. I just don't have a full work day to spend on one small skin anymore, and I can't keep interest in it over that period of time these days either. Hopefully others will find ways to make them faster and ZL will get a flood of good skins to use, but it's more than I'm able to devote myself to anymore :(.

Cheers.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by crh3f
I saw someone mention ZLauncher having document support, and that you could set up a "doc" tab and it reads most formats. How do you get the docs into that tab from within their respective readers (ie, iSilo)? You can't "drag and drop" them; is there another interface I haven't discovered yet?

To read standard DOC files, you need to install the ZReaderLite from the Plugin folder in the ZLauncher .ZIP file. Then, in ZLauncher, you want to go to menu, then Tab, then New Tab. From there you want to change the type from Application to DOC. Then that tab should show any DOC files in RAM.

[spradlinb]

In addition to cbulock's steps above:

When you use the ZReaderLite program in ZLauncher, and create a new DOC tab, ONLY your plain Palm DOC files will appear and be readable from that tab. There currently is no way to "associate" certain document types with their appropriate reader, like the way Windows works. Thus, you can't have a list of documents in one tab, and have some of them open in iSilo and others in WordSmith and yet others in TomeRaider at this time... it's just beyond the abilities of the current crop of readers. For right now, the only thing you can do is create your DOC tab, and then open those documents in the ZReaderLite program if they are normal Palm DOC documents (documents without any text formatting and saved in the old Palm DOC format).

Cheers.

[Sid]

Originally posted by spradlinb


You'll have to ask robgentile here... he's the one that designed the graphics for the skin, I just put it together and hosted it on my site since I have quite a bit of experience with making YiShow skins. You'll have to convince him to make all of the button graphics for a ZL skin, then I would probably be able to put it into ZL at some point :)

However, there are considerably more graphics in a ZL skin compared to a YiShow skin, which means it takes much longer to design and compile one than with any other launcher that has existed to date... that's why I haven't made a ZL skin at all yet, even though I like the launcher itself. It just takes forever to make a replacement for all the graphics that are necessary. ;)

Cheers.

Thanks for the info spradlinb!
OK, robgentile, are you still with us? Is an "Event Horizon" skin for ZLauncher something you might be intereseted in doing?

[Sid]

I went to the "members" section to look up robgentile, but that name is not listed.
spradlinb, can you get a message to him about the "Event Horizon" skin?
Thanks!

[doulos12]

Originally posted by spradlinb Hopefully others will find ways to make them faster and ZL will get a flood of good skins to use, but it's more than I'm able to devote myself to anymore :(. Cheers.

Well, as ZLauncher gains in popularity, hopefully it'll attract more skinners. I plan to make a few more, but they'll be lo-res, and I'm working on making matching ones for Contacts4. Honolulu is cranking out skins pretty quickly, and more will come.

[rserban]

I am using Zlauncher 2.21 on a Clie NX60. The only problem I have is that whenever I use a background image it messes up the backgrounds for the title and bottom bars and for the popup panel. I ask because the images in the dl section show all of these working fine. Anyone else has this problem? Am I doing anything wrong?
Thanks!

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rserban
I am using Zlauncher 2.21 on a Clie NX60. The only problem I have is that whenever I use a background image it messes up the backgrounds for the title and bottom bars and for the popup panel. I ask because the images in the dl section show all of these working fine. Anyone else has this problem? Am I doing anything wrong?
Thanks!

Happened to me too, but not all the time. I asked this in another thread and have not gotten an answer yet... we'll see:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rserban
I am using Zlauncher 2.21 on a Clie NX60. The only problem I have is that whenever I use a background image it messes up the backgrounds for the title and bottom bars and for the popup panel. I ask because the images in the dl section show all of these working fine. Anyone else has this problem? Am I doing anything wrong?
Thanks!

Go into: DropDown Menu, Display Setup, and uncheck Transparent UI...

[rserban]

Originally posted by Tixx


Go into: DropDown Menu, Display Setup, and uncheck Transparent UI...


Thanks! This has bugged me for a few days now....

[zeke87]

I'm using ZL on my T-415, and when I change the text shadow, after a reset, it returns it to my normal setting. Sometimes, after opening and closing a couple of programs, it totally changes my background "color" to something other than what I set it. Seems to be a bug. Thought i'd throw it out there.

[LaStigmata]

Originally posted by zeke87
I'm using ZL on my T-415, and when I change the text shadow, after a reset, it returns it to my normal setting. Sometimes, after opening and closing a couple of programs, it totally changes my background "color" to something other than what I set it. Seems to be a bug. Thought i'd throw it out there.

Are you using a color app like Colors or Butterfly?

[abe214]

Originally posted by zeke87
I'm using ZL on my T-415, and when I change the text shadow, after a reset, it returns it to my normal setting. Sometimes, after opening and closing a couple of programs, it totally changes my background "color" to something other than what I set it. Seems to be a bug. Thought i'd throw it out there.

happened to me too! I don't have other color manager app. definitely a bug.

[Sid]

Even though I still had time left on the demo, I went ahead and registered ZLauncher. It is now my primary launcher having displaced the likes of YiShow and Launcher X. It is the 6th launcher I've paid for (!) The others are:
GoBar
SilverScreen
Launcher III
YiShow
Launcher X

I did not try Megalauncher 4 and have no plans to do so.

[tanker_bob]

Good choice, Sid. I was very disappointed w/ML4. Last night I made two more backgrounds for ZLauncher, something I cannot do for ML4.

[Anita]

tankerbob -- I too have installed ZLauncher and am seriously considering shifting from YiShow -- particularly if ZLauncher enables file management and pic viewing by the time my trial runs out. . .

But as a long-time Launch'Em user in low-res days, I really like having gadgets back. And category tabs, which I miss in YiShow

Anyway, I found a non-black backimage that I think works wonderfully with the Copper Deck theme, in case you haven't spotted it. Thought it might suit your astronomical tastes <g>.

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=2516

Anita

[tanker_bob]

Anita,

Thanks! I have a total earth view over N. America at the moment. I found it on a google search. I'll add yours to my MS directory--gotta love jpg compression!

I also grew up on Launch'Em and find myself going to ZL's gadgets constantly. Although I previously favored tabs, I find myself in compact mode most of the time because it offers more useful gadgets across the bottom and covers less of the background.

[dnomyarps]

I have recently purchased the SJ20. And while I do not have the beautiful color screen, I was still hoping to be able to use backgrounds with ZLauncher. However, I am getting an error any time I set the included background (SandBeach... or something like that). I can preview the background in the options... however, it will not allow me to set it as my background. Any ideas? Also, I do not have a memory stick... can anyone point me in the direction of how to easily make backgrounds for ZLauncher without a memory stick? Thanks in advance.
- Ray

[Anita]

Well, I haven't caved in on compact mode yet. However, I have removed everything but the time from the bottom bar, which gives me most but not all of the gadgets I want.

I have icons only and graphic tabs on the categories.

I'd like to see a few more gadget options and would rather have the gadgets than those big popup icons, which seem kind of redundant. I.e., a collapsible two-line bottom gadget bar as launch-em had. So I could put the battery and memory info back in <g>. I'd like to see more drag-and-drop gadgets (like for copy or move or properties). Zlauncher tap-and-hold seems to be a little unpredictable, even tho I've changed the hold time. I have found myself executing an action when I didn't want to.

But I really am liking ZLauncher. I do miss the Yishow file management. . . . and some of its drag-and-drop options.

Anita

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by dnomyarps
I have recently purchased the SJ20. And while I do not have the beautiful color screen, I was still hoping to be able to use backgrounds with ZLauncher. However, I am getting an error any time I set the included background (SandBeach... or something like that). I can preview the background in the options... however, it will not allow me to set it as my background. Any ideas? Also, I do not have a memory stick... can anyone point me in the direction of how to easily make backgrounds for ZLauncher without a memory stick? Thanks in advance.
- Ray
Not sure there is one. ZL will automatically convert images under Theme Manager when they are selected from the card or when a bmp file is dragged to the conversion tool icon. Memory sticks are getting less expensive every day. You'll need one sooner or later to fully use your Clie's capabilities.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
Good choice, Sid. I was very disappointed w/ML4. Last night I made two more backgrounds for ZLauncher, something I cannot do for ML4.

I've made too many backgrounds to even use so far this past week:p

[Tixx]

Originally posted by tanker_bob


I also grew up on Launch'Em and find myself going to ZL's gadgets constantly. Although I previously favored tabs, I find myself in compact mode most of the time because it offers more useful gadgets across the bottom and covers less of the background.

Same for me:)

[iebnn]

Tixx is making his posting rounds..... just got a couple email notifications of new replies, all from tixx :/

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Anita
Well, I haven't caved in on compact mode yet. However, I have removed everything but the time from the bottom bar, which gives me most but not all of the gadgets I want.

I have icons only and graphic tabs on the categories.

I'd like to see a few more gadget options and would rather have the gadgets than those big popup icons, which seem kind of redundant. I.e., a collapsible two-line bottom gadget bar as launch-em had. So I could put the battery and memory info back in <g>. I'd like to see more drag-and-drop gadgets (like for copy or move or properties). Zlauncher tap-and-hold seems to be a little unpredictable, even tho I've changed the hold time. I have found myself executing an action when I didn't want to.

But I really am liking ZLauncher. I do miss the Yishow file management. . . . and some of its drag-and-drop options.

Anita

I'll be writing the makers of ZL soon with a list of upgrades soon:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by iebnn
Tixx is making his posting rounds..... just got a couple email notifications of new replies, all from tixx :/

Hey iebnn:) *LOL* Here is another one:p

I'm taking a homework break.

[iebnn]

Haha. I'm just reading cliesource without nothing else to do the couple hours before I go to sleep before a full week of school :(

[Tixx]

Originally posted by iebnn
Haha. I'm just reading cliesource without nothing else to do the couple hours before I go to sleep before a full week of school :(

I hear you loud and clear. I'm finishing a finance degree right now going full time:(/:)

[iebnn]

I'm still in high school :P

[Tixx]

Originally posted by iebnn
I'm still in high school :P

Many choices still ahead:) One thing I can say is take advantage of the choices or they will end up being made for you. Not trying to get deep or anything, but just what I've experienced and probably would have taken advantage of those choices had I known.

[pigburger]

Has anyone seen zlauncher running on a monochrome Lo-res unit running 3.51? My friend has a S300 and can't get programs to run off the MS and I was think ZL might cure the issue? Any thoughts, I know it says that it will run on it but I'm looking for real world impressions...

[doulos12]

I'd like to make an icon set to accompany my skin(s). Anyone know a Mac Desktop app that can modify ZLauncher icon files?

[Isa43J]

I've just started messing around with ZL today and I came across a problem.&nbsp; I have a .bmp that I want to use as a background, but when I try to install it (to the card; no other way to do it), I get an error stating that the sync failed to install the file because there is no app on my Clie that can read the file.

Doesn't the file have to be a .bmp in order to be used as a background?&nbsp; If that's the case, how do I install it?&nbsp; Can I use other graphical formats on my T615C?

Thanks for any advice.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Isa43J
I've just started messing around with ZL today and I came across a problem.&nbsp; I have a .bmp that I want to use as a background, but when I try to install it (to the card; no other way to do it), I get an error stating that the sync failed to install the file because there is no app on my Clie that can read the file.

Doesn't the file have to be a .bmp in order to be used as a background?&nbsp; If that's the case, how do I install it?&nbsp; Can I use other graphical formats on my T615C?

Thanks for any advice.

Use MS Import to put it in the ZLauncher/Backgrounds folder. I have a 615 as well. BTW - it does have to be a .bmp:)

[jsp91470]

BTW - it does have to be a .bmp

No, it doesn't. You can also use a jpg, maybe other kinds as well. Just put it in the appropriate folder on the card (see above) and it will convert it.

My big problem is with the size of the converted background file. I started with a 30kB jpg. ZL converted this into a 300k database file. This is just wasted space; a 30-kB jpg should convert to a 30-kB database file. I e-mailed Zztechs about this and they said there was no way around it.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by jsp91470


No, it doesn't. You can also use a jpg, maybe other kinds as well. Just put it in the appropriate folder on the card (see above) and it will convert it.

My big problem is with the size of the converted background file. I started with a 30kB jpg. ZL converted this into a 300k database file. This is just wasted space; a 30-kB jpg should convert to a 30-kB database file. I e-mailed Zztechs about this and they said there was no way around it.

My fault:) I thought it was just bitmaps. When I cut my bitmaps to 320x320 (Converted from other formats in photoshop) they end up being 200kb. Saves 33% of what you are using. Hope that helps a little.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by jsp91470
My big problem is with the size of the converted background file. I started with a 30kB jpg. ZL converted this into a 300k database file. This is just wasted space; a 30-kB jpg should convert to a 30-kB database file. I e-mailed Zztechs about this and they said there was no way around it. What's happening here is that the original file was only 30KB because it was compressed (JPG is a compressed file format). To use as a background, it is converted into a bitmap and stored in RAM. That's the only way to use backgrounds without some serious speed delays, especially for non-NX devices with much slower chips. If they had to convert a JPG background everytime, it would probably take 5-10 seconds to redraw the screen every time you switched tabs or dragged an icon, etc., if it was even possible. So the size increase is because it's converted to a bitmap file; it's also why the file size for 320x320 backgrounds is 1/3 smaller, since they have 1/3 the bits.

[fenris77]

Originally posted by jsp91470


No, it doesn't. You can also use a jpg, maybe other kinds as well. Just put it in the appropriate folder on the card (see above) and it will convert it.

My big problem is with the size of the converted background file. I started with a 30kB jpg. ZL converted this into a 300k database file. This is just wasted space; a 30-kB jpg should convert to a 30-kB database file. I e-mailed Zztechs about this and they said there was no way around it.

Maybe I'm wrong but... As far as I know you CAN'T use a JPeg image on a T615C device as background because the T615C doesn't have the multimedia library needed to convert it to a .pdb, as well as T415 and SJ series (but I don't know about SJ30). You can use .jpg files on T665 and NX/NR/NZ series only.

[Isa43J]

Originally posted by Tixx


Use MS Import to put it in the ZLauncher/Backgrounds folder. I have a 615 as well. BTW - it does have to be a .bmp:)

I can't get the file on my device at all, even in RAM.&nbsp; Will MS Import install the file from my PC?

[doulos12]

Rename the file .bmp.pdb. Sync to the card. Find it in ZL, get info, and remove the ".pdb". All set.

[Anita]

MSimport and bmps -- yes you can just drag and drop bmps to the memory stick, which shows up as another drive. YOu can put anything on the memory stick that way, even totally non-Palm stuff. . .

RE bmps or jpgs, Zlauncher will recognize some of my jpgs but not others -- doesn't if I use the backimage selection on the jpg in another folder or put it in the Zlauncher backimage folder. If it doesn't want to accept the jpg, the "backimage" option isn't on the tap-hold menu at all.

I finally converted a few to bmps and made a few more. It ALWAYS recognizes a bmp. I don't understand why some jpgs were ok and others weren't???

(T665c 320x320 jpgs)

Anita

[tanker_bob]

Anita,

How are you converting your jpgs? I use Micro$oft Picture Editor to convert bmps to jpgs, and they've all worked so far. I put all in the backimage folder. I've also downloaded some YiShow backgrounds in jpg format and they worked OK.

[tanker_bob]

jpgs only work in devices w/the graphics library and hardware decoding--T665C, NR-series are the ones of which I am sure. They shouldn't work on T615C as it isn't so equipped.

[DoctorDED]

Does anyone know how to build a THEME for zLauncher? Not really how but what do I need? I have CodeWarrior 8, but just don'y know where to get started?

[hansschmucker]

You only need constructor (supplied with pos5 sdk and cw9). Open it and open a standard theme file with your desired res and color depth. Now choose bitmaps and you're ready to go.

[atomicCLIE]

What's so darn good about ZLauncher anyways? I tried it and didn't find anything special about it...

Someone try to convert me!

[DoctorDED]

Originally posted by hansschmucker
You only need constructor (supplied with pos5 sdk and cw9). Open it and open a standard theme file with your desired res and color depth. Now choose bitmaps and you're ready to go.

ALL I need is the PDB for themes? I didn't think I could open the PDB with constructor? I'm still new with CW. Work is having my learn, so I can right app for Sales Force. Thanks hansschmucker.

[hansschmucker]

There's nothing spectecular about Zlauncher, all it does is getting the job done to provide a nice high color/ hr+ interface for your everyday use. Nothing more and nothing less.

Oh and DoctorDED: Put that logo away or I cut you in half!!! ;)

[hansschmucker]

PDB and PRC are about the same when it comes to resources. Just rename to prc

[Isa43J]

Originally posted by doulos12
Rename the file .bmp.pdb. Sync to the card. Find it in ZL, get info, and remove the ".pdb". All set.

Excellent!&nbsp; It works very well.&nbsp; Thanks.

[Anita]

How are you converting your jpgs
Tanker Bob

A couple that it wouldn't recognize weren't converted at all, they were straight Yishow jpg downloads. Any modified ones went through Photoshop.

Ah - here's something -- if I look at my Yishow background folder in Zlauncher (in icon mode), some of them have an eye/jpg icon and others have a different icon, looks like pdb, even tho they are jpgs. The second variety won't work in Zlauncher. Thpse are the ones that have no backimage option on the tap-and-hold menu and won't work even if moved to the Zlauncher backimage folder.

Some of the non-loadable ones are straight jpg downloads, some are ones I've created or modified. Looking at the file properties (dpi, photo size, etc.) in Photoshop, I can't find any common denominator in the images themselves that would account for some to not be registering as jpgs while the others do. Both groups seem to have a range of dpis, file sizes, print sizes. They are all 320x320. Didn't find anything unusual in file info on the handheld either.

I don't mind fooling with photos so it's not a big deal to me, other than being totally mysterious.

Anita

[rldunn]

Originally posted by atomicCLIE
What's so darn good about ZLauncher anyways? I tried it and didn't find anything special about it...

Someone try to convert me! I wouldn't have switched from LX except for the fact that LX launched all of my Clie apps with the VG area showing, which was really annoying. I know, this is something little, but the launchers were so close that I felt this issue put ZL over the top.

[sebring]

Originally posted by atomicCLIE
What's so darn good about ZLauncher anyways? I tried it and didn't find anything special about it...

Someone try to convert me!

I'm not going to try to convert you. If you tried it and there is something else you like better, use what you like better. I personally have tried most of the launchers out there and prefer ZLauncher on my NR over all the others I've tried. I also prefer Megalauncher v3.22 on my N610 over the others I've tried. ZLauncher uses too much RAM for the N610, which only has 8MB to start with and only 7MB available to the user. Launcher X might also be suitable for my N610, but I've already paid for Megalauncher and haven't found enough I like about Launcher X to be worth paying another $20, especially with their poor update and customer service record.

[jims]

Originally posted by atomicCLIE
What's so darn good about ZLauncher anyways? I tried it and didn't find anything special about it...

Someone try to convert me!

All the features of the other launchers with excellent customer support at half the price.

[Anita]

Background question here -- is there any way to DISABLE the background on the list/details view in Zlauncher??

Anita

[sebring]

Originally posted by fenris77


Maybe I'm wrong but... As far as I know you CAN'T use a JPeg image on a T615C device as background because the T615C doesn't have the multimedia library needed to convert it to a .pdb, as well as T415 and SJ series (but I don't know about SJ30). You can use .jpg files on T665 and NX/NR/NZ series only.

Actually jpgs can be used on other Clie devices, you have to install the "graphicslibrary" from one of the above devices. I am able to view jpg images on my N610. I also own a NR and copied the graphic library from it to my N610. I use SplashPhoto desktop to convert images to jpg and sync them to my MS. There don't seem to be any hardware limitations, other than a little speed difference. Personally, the minor speed delay is a small price to pay for the substantial memory savings.

[boomer]

... and where can one find this file?&nbsp; I'd like to try that on my N610 as well!

[Tixx]

Question: When I use the QuickLaunch icon I can never get it to display a favorites list, only Commons and Recents. How to you get the favorites list to show?
Thanks:)

[Grandizer]

Originally posted by Anita
A couple that it wouldn't recognize weren't converted at all, they were straight Yishow jpg downloads. Any modified ones went through Photoshop.

Ah - here's something -- if I look at my Yishow background folder in Zlauncher (in icon mode), some of them have an eye/jpg icon and others have a different icon, looks like pdb, even tho they are jpgs. The second variety won't work in Zlauncher. Thpse are the ones that have no backimage option on the tap-and-hold menu and won't work even if moved to the Zlauncher backimage folder.

Some of the non-loadable ones are straight jpg downloads, some are ones I've created or modified. Looking at the file properties (dpi, photo size, etc.) in Photoshop, I can't find any common denominator in the images themselves that would account for some to not be registering as jpgs while the others do. Both groups seem to have a range of dpis, file sizes, print sizes. They are all 320x320. Didn't find anything unusual in file info on the handheld either.

I don't mind fooling with photos so it's not a big deal to me, other than being totally mysterious.

Anita

Anita,

Have you tried converting the pics to JPG's using MS Paint? They work fine with me. I have not encountered any problems using it.


Originally posted by atomicCLIE

What's so darn good about ZLauncher anyways? I tried it and didn't find anything special about it...

Someone try to convert me!

atomicCLIE,

I'm not going to convert you. Go with whatever launcher you want. It's all about your preferences and needs. I have registered ZLauncher, but still use YiShow as my main launcher. ZL is second (only use it once a week).

[sebring]

Originally posted by Tixx
Question: When I use the QuickLaunch icon I can never get it to display a favorites list, only Commons and Recents. How to you get the favorites list to show?
Thanks:)

Just drag any app you want included in favorites to the QuickLaunch arrow on the gadget bar. Make sure you drag them in the order you want them to appear. There isn't any way to rearrange them, or delete individual items, once they are added, except to clear the entire quicklaunch favorites list and start over.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by sebring


Just drag any app you want included in favorites to the QuickLaunch arrow on the gadget bar. Make sure you drag them in the order you want them to appear. There isn't any way to rearrange them, or delete individual items, once they are added, except to clear the entire quicklaunch favorites list and start over.

Ahh...Thanks:)

[jims]

Originally posted by Grandizer

...I have registered ZLauncher, but still use YiShow as my main launcher. ZL is second (only use it once a week).

This is weird for me...why use more than one launcher? I can see getting bored with one and then switching back and forth over a longer period of time, but within a week?

[Anita]

Funny you should mention this. . . .I'm doing the reverse, ZLauncher is emerging as the main launcher; I like its overall launcher functions and interface. But I'm having to go back into Yishow periodically for a couple of its features. Running two full-"bloat" launchers doesn't really appeal to me, either. . .

But YiShow is my primary image viewer. I just a few minutes ago figured out that 1) Yishow does a better job for me on images than AcidImage, which I was trying out; and 2) if I knock off the skin and background, YiShow is the same size as AcidImage.

This makes a big difference to me as I weigh the pros and cons of buying another launcher. Now I'm only looking at the ZLauncher price (VERY reasonable) -- instead of ZLauncher AND an image viewer; or if no image viewer, ZLauncher and the full bulk of a second launcher (YiShow) in ram.

Anita

[DoctorDED]

Yo! Thanks hansschmucker for the info the other day. Now I have been able to modify the default skin that comes with zlauncher to make my own changes. Next I have to make my own skin.

[LaStigmata]

bump

[Grandizer]

Originally posted by jims


This is weird for me...why use more than one launcher? I can see getting bored with one and then switching back and forth over a longer period of time, but within a week?

I am slowly adjusting myself to ZLauncher. More like I'm slowly leaning off YiShow. Eventually, though, I might actually be switching between the 2 every other day or something close to that nature. I do like some functions in ZLauncher that are not in YiShow and vice versa. ZLauncher and YiShow are not perfect, but YiShow does what I like more better than ZLauncher. Again, these are just my preferences.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by dnomyarps
I have recently purchased the SJ20. And while I do not have the beautiful color screen, I was still hoping to be able to use backgrounds with ZLauncher. However, I am getting an error any time I set the included background (SandBeach... or something like that). I can preview the background in the options... however, it will not allow me to set it as my background. Any ideas? Also, I do not have a memory stick... can anyone point me in the direction of how to easily make backgrounds for ZLauncher without a memory stick? Thanks in advance.
- Ray

I also have an SJ20 dnomyarps.. and I have the precise problem you are having. The bmp is converted and moved into RAM (off my desktop or MS, both work).. but when I select it in the Theme memu an Error: 550 pops up and the background picture will not display.

I've been reading 120+ posts on this thread to come across the answer to my problem before posting my need.. but just past page 20? and this was the first mention of it.. and following posts don't give the answer yet.

:(

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by Anita
This makes a big difference to me as I weigh the pros and cons of buying another launcher. Now I'm only looking at the ZLauncher price (VERY reasonable) -- instead of ZLauncher AND an image viewer; or if no image viewer, ZLauncher and the full bulk of a second launcher (YiShow) in ram.

Anita

The option I'm considering right now is getting rid of AcidImage (didn't register it yet) and using Zlauncher or Launcher X (Still unsure, I can't get background pics to work on Zlauncher so that selling point isn't working on me yet).. and then registering Handstory.

Handstory I want to register ASAP anyway cuz I'm hooked on Harry Potter's 3rd e-book and I can see this e-book addiction growing fast. Handstory lets you clip webpages and things and will let me get rid of that RAM Hog Avantgo as well.. Handstory lets you view pictures also..

My combo will end up being Zlauncher (if I can get the pics working) or Launcer X (Which I like the side tabs best) and Handstory.

That would let you get rid of AcidImage and also pick up an e-book reader and let you toss away Avantgo.

[Anita]

Does Handstory view all image formats? Tho that's really not too critical for me because I can convert pictures to whatever format I need to. I use Isilo for e-books and Web pages and love it. Don't use Avantgo.

As a map viewer, moving a map around, YiShow is great because it doesn't redraw the map during the moving. But it's a little temperamental and is locking up on me from time to time, when I try it for slideshows. I'll have to check out Handstory.

I'm having no trouble at all with Zlauncher backgrounds if I use bitmaps. Jpgs work sometimes, sometimes not. But I don't think I'll be changing the "looks" of Zlauncher as often as Yishow.

I prefer side tabs too but find myself using the compact no-tab mode more and more often. . . .Probably because I've dropped the text on the tabs (I don't want to scroll through tabs), and I'm having trouble remembering which ones are which if I change themes (and icons).

I fully expect ZLauncher to come up with side tabs in one of its revisions. . . .But if that doesn't happen, I'll be ok with it. Pros already won; I registered Zlauncher.

Anita

[Anita]

Have you tried converting that background in your PC to grayscale? The SJ20 is monochrome, isn't it? Zlauncher says the bitmap has to be the same as your device -- my T665 is 16bit (64K colors). . . just look at the bottom of the Zlauncher theme manager, it will say what the SJ20 is. . . .

Manual says it won't load a background picture unless it's the same color depth as the device. IOW, it's not going to convert color to black and white.

Hope that helps.

Anita

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by Anita
Have you tried converting that background in your PC to grayscale? The SJ20 is monochrome, isn't it? Zlauncher says the bitmap has to be the same as your device -- my T665 is 16bit (64K colors). . . just look at the bottom of the Zlauncher theme manager, it will say what the SJ20 is. . . .

Manual says it won't load a background picture unless it's the same color depth as the device. IOW, it's not going to convert color to black and white.

Hope that helps.

Anita

When I get home from work I'll try converting it to greyscale, make sure its still a bmp, move it onto my MS /Zlauncher/Backgrounds.. and then give it a try and see what happens.

Thanks!

[lancelot]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
Anita,

How are you converting your jpgs? I use Micro$oft .....

i was having a ton of probs with images for wallpaper on my 615. i now use pg lite , which comes on the cd. it will convert images to prc.pgp's, which work dandy.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by Anita
Have you tried converting that background in your PC to grayscale? The SJ20 is monochrome, isn't it? Zlauncher says the bitmap has to be the same as your device -- my T665 is 16bit (64K colors). . . just look at the bottom of the Zlauncher theme manager, it will say what the SJ20 is. . . .


Well.. just gave it a try.. the megryan.jpg picture off Cliesource.com I resized to something like 215 x 318 (to get it under the 320 max. Then I converted it to greyscale and used MSImport/MSExport and dropped it right into the Palm/Programs/Zlauncher/Backgrounds directory on my MS... and whammo.. it zipped right over to my SJ20 and showed up just perfect like in my Zlauncher Themes screen.

I selected it and a new thing happened.

The little box showed up in the middle of my screen like it was loading a program (progress bar growing from left to right) ((It had never done that before, it had given me error messages before))... Everything was great.. my breath held in anticipation and on the edge of my seat as my eyes narrowed in on the little 320 x 320 screen on my SJ20.

Bad News... nothing shows up.. no background.. just that same blank screen laying beyind my icons.

Any more ideas? (pouting)

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by lancelot


i was having a ton of probs with images for wallpaper on my 615. i now use pg lite , which comes on the cd. it will convert images to prc.pgp's, which work dandy.

I just used the PGlite program and moved the megryan.bmp file (The shrunk down greyscale one) onto MS (which of course it converted to prc).. when I select this option in the Theme Manager of ZLauncher it highlighted (Bold) it and then that was it.. nothing more.. still no background picture.

I've determined that the previous (progress/loading bar) was it converting the bmp file to .prc... now that I have a prc on MS also it just selects it and doens't have to convert it first. Same result though.. still no BG.. At least I'm not getting an error anymore.

[kstuart]

Handstory I want to register ASAP anyway cuz I'm hooked on Harry Potter's 3rd e-book and I can see this e-book addiction growing fast. Handstory lets you clip webpages and things and will let me get rid of that RAM Hog Avantgo as well.. Handstory lets you view pictures also..

The free PalmReader app is really all you'll ever need for e-books, as it does DOC files and DRM ebooks as well. So, that in itself is not a reason to get Handstory (but the other reasons may or may not be).

If you want to go "fancier" than the free PalmReader app, there is also PalmReaderPro as well as DeepReader. PalmReaderPro has color and font support, and DeepReader has "smart formatting" which helps with some DOC file ebooks.

[Anita]

Well, I'm at a loss. I also noticed that my color photos are 8bit, not 16bit, apparently, and Zlauncher is reading them fine.

Um, ininstall and reinstall Zlauncher?? Or e-mail zztechs. . . . They responded to one of my e-mails even before I registered it. I am definitely blown away by the customer service.

They're looking at a zip file I sent them of various jpgs, some of which work and some of which don't work (all should work on a T665c) after I mentioned that little oddity.

Oh wait (editing this in), are you trying to use jpgs? It has to start out as a bmp unless you have the Clies with the jpg decoders (like the T665c). . . .that was one thing zztechs mentioned in one of their e-mails to me.

Anita

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by Anita
Oh wait (editing this in), are you trying to use jpgs? It has to start out as a bmp unless you have the Clies with the jpg decoders (like the T665c). . . .that was one thing zztechs mentioned in one of their e-mails to me.

Nope.. bmps

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by kstuart


The free PalmReader app is really all you'll ever need for e-books, as it does DOC files and DRM ebooks as well. So, that in itself is not a reason to get Handstory (but the other reasons may or may not be).

If you want to go "fancier" than the free PalmReader app, there is also PalmReaderPro as well as DeepReader. PalmReaderPro has color and font support, and DeepReader has "smart formatting" which helps with some DOC file ebooks.

HandStory:
E-Books
Picture Viewer (Can get rid of AcidImage then)
I have SJ-20 (no color)
Haven't founds I ever use/read Doc files.

Thank you for the PalmReader app.. but its not what I'm looking for.

[PurpleMD]

BTW...for image viewing, if you have McFile...there's a free jpeg viewer...McJPEG. Since jpegs are the smallest files for images, it's my preference anyway.

Handstory image files are kinda big...

[tanker_bob]

McJPEG is a cool add-on to McFile. I use HandStory as my primary image viewer, though.

[Mr Sheen]

32 days since the last update! Even counting the CNY holiday, it is very long by their standard.:D

But i have seen on a certain Russian site several mention of ZL 2.22 b3, being registered user, I do not want to touch it but has anyone heard something?

Thanks

Sheen

[Anita]

Well, this isn't specific -- but when responding to my e-mail on suggestions, zztechs said a full-boat file manager - to list all files on the handheld instead of applications only -- is "on the way and should be available at the start of March"

Couple of other things I was interested in (drop the background on the details/list view being the most important one, side tabs as a little perk) are on the "plan list" but no schedule.

I have never e-mailed a developer with suggestions but since zztechs solicits them, I did. I was VERY impressed with the personal service.

Anita

[Anita]

Originally posted by PurpleMD
BTW...for image viewing, if you have McFile...there's a free jpeg viewer...McJPEG.

I don't have McFile, but would like to know - will its jpg viewer pan photos bigger than the screen (for maps). . . ?

If it will, I'll try it out.

Anita

[sebring]

Originally posted by sebring


Actually jpgs can be used on other Clie devices, you have to install the "graphicslibrary" from one of the above devices. I am able to view jpg images on my N610. I also own a NR and copied the graphic library from it to my N610. I use SplashPhoto desktop to convert images to jpg and sync them to my MS. There don't seem to be any hardware limitations, other than a little speed difference. Personally, the minor speed delay is a small price to pay for the substantial memory savings.

I mis-spoke, the files that are necessary to enable jpg viewing in devices earlier that the NR series are "JPEG Library" and "JPEG Util Library", which come installed in ROM of the NR and probably later devices. Installing these files on my N610 enables viewing jpg images and using jpg images for backimages in ZLauncher.

I also believe there is no easier way to convert images to jpgs, that are perfect to use as ZLauncher backimages, than SplashPhoto Desktop, which also automatically syncs them to MS when you hotsync.

[abe214]

It's over a month now since the last ZL update. Any news?

[tanker_bob]

I know there is a 2.22b3 version floating around that seems pretty solid. No major changes, but it does allow preview of backgrounds on the stick. Almost makes it an image viewer. :)

[Sid]

Originally posted by abe214
It's over a month now since the last ZL update. Any news?

I think it's my fault that there have not been any updates for a while, because before I downloaded ZL to try in earnest and eventually register, it seemed like there was an update every several days. Now that I've paid for it, no updates :D

[Sid]

On the other hand, ZL isn't really lacking too much at this point.

[PurpleMD]

Originally posted by sebring


I mis-spoke, the files that are necessary to enable jpg viewing in devices earlier that the NR series are "JPEG Library" and "JPEG Util Library", which come installed in ROM of the NR and probably later devices. Installing these files on my N610 enables viewing jpg images and using jpg images for backimages in ZLauncher.

I also believe there is no easier way to convert images to jpgs, that are perfect to use as ZLauncher backimages, than SplashPhoto Desktop, which also automatically syncs them to MS when you hotsync.

I use IrfanView to convert all images to jpegs or just resize them to 320x480 and then just load them onto my memory stick. How does SplashPhoto make it easier? Or...is there any reason to change from my free way of getting the images to paying for SplashPhoto? I prefer being able to view the native image files...I don't want to have to convert them to pdbs. That's why I like AcidImage over SplashPhoto.

[kstuart]

HandStory:
E-Books
Picture Viewer (Can get rid of AcidImage then)
I have SJ-20 (no color)
Haven't founds I ever use/read Doc files.

Thank you for the PalmReader app.. but its not what I'm looking for.

Does HandStory have a different e-book format than PalmReader? If so, have you found that their e-books are a better selection than PalmDigitalMedia? Just curious... personally, I find that only about 10% of books that I want to read are available in commercial e-book format, and only a smaller fraction are available at prices less than the hardcover version. So, most of my reading is in the form of DOC files, either great books where the copyright has expired, or else unauthorized DOC files of books that I already own that have no ebook release (rather than carry around a heavy 500 page hardcover).

PS A free JPEG viewer (that I have been using - it is rather spartan but it does pan over images larger than the screen size) is available at:

http://crspalm.hp.infoseek.co.jp/#crsimg

The Babelfish translation of the text is: It is the NR70/V and the T650C private, ???? * ??? corresponding JPEG picture perusal software. (Cooperation correspondence with " the MC$file " " MccJpeg") the N700C/N600C/T600/SJ30/ (the T400) with active old version (the for BMP picture) is done bundled. Like below there is a feature. * JPEG correspondence (JPEG decoding possible type limitation) * (wide) ???? * ??? corresponding * now in the picture cooperation with the Seki work " MC$file " " MccJpeg " as for possibility * operation system ? work " Crs-MeDoc " like The freeware, it is non guarantee. Including trouble, when opinion * thought and the like it is, please move aside with ease.

[Anita]

KStuart - Thanks for the tip on crsimag -- that's not a bad program at all (particularly for the price <g>). . . .Doesn't do slide shows but truth is I have no real need for that. I do like the way it gives a little readout at the bottom on the image details. It redraws a little bit on panning a map, but not as much as AcidImage. And it seems as fast as most of the other programs I've tried, for the most part.

I loaded the crsimgv.prc and it appears to only read jpgs. It looks like from that translation the crsimgv_old.prc might read bmps?? Which do you have loaded and is it possible to load both?

Thanks again for the tip.

Anita

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
McJPEG is a cool add-on to McFile.

Where can we find it? It is not included in the distribution and I do not find on the site.

Thans,

Sheen

[tanker_bob]

You can find it here (http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~imazeki/palm/McJP.html). The page is Japanese, but the link is easy to find. It's been in beta for a long time, so I don't know if the developer is still working it. I haven't found any problems with it so far.

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
You can find it here (http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~imazeki/palm/McJP.html). The page is Japanese, but the link is easy to find. It's been in beta for a long time, so I don't know if the developer is still working it. I haven't found any problems with it so far.

Got it. Thanks a lot

Sheen

[ronlisag]

Is there a 'today' like plug in for Zlauncher? or do you have to use an app for that?

ronlisag

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by ronlisag
Is there a 'today' like plug in for Zlauncher? or do you have to use an app for that?

ronlisag
No plugins. Facer is basically a today app with a weak launcher attached.

[boomer]

Any rumors on the next update?

[Anita]

"start of March" -- see my note mid-page on Page 23.

Anita

[doulos12]

Are we just a little spoiled? Can you imagine asking that question about other Launchers? :)

[PurpleMD]

Originally posted by Mr Sheen


Got it. Thanks a lot

Sheen

I use Agendus...in the updated version, the Today view actually works on the NR70. Unfortunately, the backgrounds still don't! :(

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Anita


I don't have McFile, but would like to know - will its jpg viewer pan photos bigger than the screen (for maps). . . ?

If it will, I'll try it out.

Anita
Sorry, I missed this question. Yes, it will pan by tap, hold, and dragging the image with the stylus.

[sebring]

Originally posted by PurpleMD


I use IrfanView to convert all images to jpegs or just resize them to 320x480 and then just load them onto my memory stick. How does SplashPhoto make it easier? Or...is there any reason to change from my free way of getting the images to paying for SplashPhoto? I prefer being able to view the native image files...I don't want to have to convert them to pdbs. That's why I like AcidImage over SplashPhoto.

With SplashPhoto desktop, all I do is open the app, browse my disk drives for the image I want, select it and it is automatically put in a window sized for one of 8 user selected palm/clie specific resolutions/bit depths. In the window, I can scroll the image to center the portion of the image I want to save, zoom the image in or out, adjust the brightness or contrast, rotate the image. When finished I can select handheld or MS to save the image. I can select whether I want to save it as a pdb or jpg (jpg can only be saved to MS). I can also rename the image here. Then click install and the image or images will be automatically transfered the the location I specified next time I hotsync. No extra steps of saving the converted images somewhere on my hard disk, then opening MSImport to transfer them. There is the extra step of moving the images from the SplashPhoto directory on MS to the ZLauncher backimage directory.

Actually, pdbs are closer to native images than jpg. Jpg are compressed versions of the original image. That being said, SplashPhoto also supports jpgs, in additon to pdbs. I agree the handheld AcidImage app is more flexible than the handheld SplashPhoto app. Some say AcidImage is faster than SplashPhoto, but I haven't noticed any difference on my NR. Maybe it is on a NX.

If you are like me and don't transfer a lot of images, a free solution may very well be preferrable, but I already have SplashPhoto and really can't imagine anything being easier.

[Anita]

What SplashPhoto DOESN'T have (and why it flunked my personal trial) is zoom and pan on the handheld.

For what I need -- the ability to view reference jpgs, since I have the multi-format and slideshow capabilities of YiShow already -- I am VERY happy with the CRSImg program that KStuart mentioned earlier in this thread. It's only 18K and I don't have to exit Zlauncher.

Other than YiShow, CRSImg is the only program I tried that was able to give me a readable handheld image of a 250x1235 jpg I created, cutting and pasting names and addresses out of a PDF file. I was surprised that AcidImage couldn't give me a readable view.

Anita

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by Anita
What SplashPhoto DOESN'T have (and why it flunked my personal trial) is zoom and pan on the handheld.

For what I need -- the ability to view reference jpgs, since I have the multi-format and slideshow capabilities of YiShow already -- I am VERY happy with the CRSImg program that KStuart mentioned earlier in this thread. It's only 18K and I don't have to exit Zlauncher.

Other than YiShow, CRSImg is the only program I tried that was able to give me a readable handheld image of a 250x1235 jpg I created, cutting and pasting names and addresses out of a PDF file. I was surprised that AcidImage couldn't give me a readable view.

Anita

AcidImage CAN give you a readable view, you just have to make a setting change first. The program is set up the first time you run it to load JPEG images in a "blurry" mode so that they appear faster... there's a Preference of "Load JPEGs Full Size" that has to be checked if you want full detail of your image. With that option checked you'll be able to read your images just fine, as you can with the other image viewers. The option is just there to make it a faster viewer for really large images when you don't always need 100% detail :).

Cheers.

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by spradlinb
AcidImage CAN give you a readable view, you just have to make a setting change first. The program is set up the first time you run it to load JPEG images in a "blurry" mode so that they appear faster... there's a Preference of "Load JPEGs Full Size" that has to be checked if you want full detail of your image.Well, I just learned something new! I figured that meant load the image at 100% (as opposed to fit-to-screen). I've had blurry maps before and wasn't sure why. Now I know! Thanks.

[Anita]

I just reinstalled AcidImage and you're right, I can read that one file with preference set to load full-sized Jpgs. It does take FOREVER to load tho <g>.

Anita

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by PurpleMD
BTW...for image viewing, if you have McFile...there's a free jpeg viewer...McJPEG. Since jpegs are the smallest files for images, it's my preference anyway.

Handstory image files are kinda big...

Ick.. I'd been told/learned that HandStory could be used as a picture viewer.. but I hadn't even considered that HandStory wouldn't be able to access *.jpg files and would want its own formated (larger) file to use.

Is this really true? If so then PalmReader will end up being the way for me after all. I want to use JPG's on my MS for obvious space conservation. I have McFile already and like it.. so if this is the cae McJpeg sounds like the way I'll need to go.

If it is.. sort of cracks me up that the way I prefer ends up being the FREE way? Hee.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
You can find it here (http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~imazeki/palm/McJP.html). The page is Japanese, but the link is easy to find. It's been in beta for a long time, so I don't know if the developer is still working it. I haven't found any problems with it so far.

I downloaded the app and installed it but it doesn't work. The screen comes up blank with a (Close) button in the lower right corner and in the lower left corner is a small legend box for photo doodling. Problem is.. I can't open up any pull down menus and access preferences or other means of navigating to load a picture into the app to view it.

Is anyone else having the problem? I'm loading it on an SJ-20 and its not allowing me to pull down any menu's at all in it to access any file options.

Note: I *do* have McFile loaded and it works just fine.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Experiment 626


I downloaded the app and installed it but it doesn't work. The screen comes up blank with a (Close) button in the lower right corner and in the lower left corner is a small legend box for photo doodling. Problem is.. I can't open up any pull down menus and access preferences or other means of navigating to load a picture into the app to view it.

Is anyone else having the problem? I'm loading it on an SJ-20 and its not allowing me to pull down any menu's at all in it to access any file options.

Note: I *do* have McFile loaded and it works just fine.
It isn't supposed to execute from the launcher, although it will. In McFile, tap Menu/Prefs/SendPgmList. Add McJPEG to the list of programs there from the list box and give the label a name. Tap OK. In the McFile's file listing, select a jpg, tap Send, then McJPEG. Up pops the image! You can move it around to see it all (if larger than the display area) by tap, hold, and dragging it.

[JS]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

It isn't supposed to execute from the launcher, although it will.

How would you utilize this to lauch from the Launcher?

ps I responded to your Facer issue, refer to Facer thread...(crashes r resolved) although I'll stick with ZL:)

JS

[spradlinb]

Originally posted by Experiment 626


I downloaded the app and installed it but it doesn't work. The screen comes up blank with a (Close) button in the lower right corner and in the lower left corner is a small legend box for photo doodling. Problem is.. I can't open up any pull down menus and access preferences or other means of navigating to load a picture into the app to view it.

Is anyone else having the problem? I'm loading it on an SJ-20 and its not allowing me to pull down any menu's at all in it to access any file options.

Note: I *do* have McFile loaded and it works just fine.

In addition to tanker_bob's setup instructions above, there's one more consideration that might be stopping it from working. Many people with earlier Clie models (415, 615, etc.) can't use JPEGs as backgrounds in ZLauncher because their PDA is missing some JPEG decoder library files (that only seem to exist on 665C and NR CDs at the moment). I have noticed that some of the SL and SJ users are finding that they don't have the decoder libraries installed either, so you may not be able to view a JPEG image on your SJ20 without them... a few N users have installed the files from a 665C CD and had no problems, but there's no reliable place to download the decoder library files online now unless you go through a Sony Developer.

So, if tanker_bob's instructions don't help get it working, it may be a hardware/software issue for JPEG images at the heart of it all.

(See how neatly that brings us back on topic with ZLauncher ;):D)

Cheers.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by spradlinb


In addition to tanker_bob's setup instructions above, there's one more consideration that might be stopping it from working. Many people with earlier Clie models (415, 615, etc.) can't use JPEGs as backgrounds in ZLauncher because their PDA is missing some JPEG decoder library files (that only seem to exist on 665C and NR CDs at the moment). I have noticed that some of the SL and SJ users are finding that they don't have the decoder libraries installed either, so you may not be able to view a JPEG image on your SJ20 without them... a few N users have installed the files from a 665C CD and had no problems, but there's no reliable place to download the decoder library files online now unless you go through a Sony Developer.

So, if tanker_bob's instructions don't help get it working, it may be a hardware/software issue for JPEG images at the heart of it all.

(See how neatly that brings us back on topic with ZLauncher ;):D)

Cheers.
Oops. I didn't pay close enough attention to the fact the target device was an SJ20. McJPEG was designed to use the NR-series OS graphics libraries that are also on the T665C. It will not work on other devices without those libraries.

[JS]

Originally posted by spradlinb



(See how neatly that brings us back on topic with ZLauncher ;):D)

Cheers.

Back to ZL,
Has anyone played with the customize tabs, as in creating tabs that will say show Isilo docs and launch to Isilo or show jpg and launch whatever viewer? This is the ONE feature that I really liked from LX.

JS

[tanker_bob]

I played with the DOC and Hack tabs. Tapping docs in the DOC tab will execute ZReaderLite to read the doc. Tapping hacks will not launch X-Master. Haven't messed with it more than that.

[Anita]

I did that with Smartlist on Zlauncher and it worked fine. I later undid it because I decided I only wanted a few of my databases showing, so I did it manually with Filez, making those specific ones launchable under their own tab.

I tried the category setup with Docs to Go but it didn't work. I want to play around with that again because I think I may not have used the proper file type and creator. Or it may be a DTG restriction, since it's uses an umbrella app and then the separate word, spreadsheet and pics apps.

I like that feature a lot too and plan to try it on some other apps.

Anita

[JS]

Originally posted by Anita
I did that with Smartlist on Zlauncher and it worked fine. I later undid it because I decided I only wanted a few of my databases showing, so I did it manually with Filez, making those specific ones launchable under their own tab.

I tried the category setup with Docs to Go but it didn't work. I want to play around with that again because I think I may not have used the proper file type and creator. Or it may be a DTG restriction, since it's uses an umbrella app and then the separate word, spreadsheet and pics apps.

I like that feature a lot too and plan to try it on some other apps.

Anita

Thanks Anita, glad to see others are interested in this feature.

JS

[Anita]

I certainly appreciated it. I had tried to launch ThinkDB databases with FileZ in Yishow and it wouldn't work. It worked in an earlier version but not in the later version. I finally wound up with a shortcut I couldn't delete and couldn't use.

It was interesting that when I installed Zlauncher, it eliminated my orphan shortcut in Yishow.

And also interesting - my launchable Smartlist icons show up in the default Palm launcher and are usable, but they don't show up in Yishow at all.

Anita

[adrakxar]

Hi all. Not to take away from this group or anything, but I'm going email-only soon, so I created a ZLauncher yahoogroup. If you're interested in joining, check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zlauncher

Scott Horne
http://starjourney.net
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zlauncher

[tanker_bob]

I created a tab for WordSmith documents. Although the correct files showed up in the tab and WS did execute when one of the files was launched, it did not open the document. It only opened WS to the last file list display I had used. I tried the same thing in McFile and the document opened fine.

[Anita]

I tried Docs to Go again and it would only go to the file list display, regardless of whether I tried it in Zlauncher or FileZ. So I think it's a Docs to Go issue there. I tried it with the different file types of DTG itself as well as Word to Go.

Really don't have anything else on my machine I'd like to see in its own category. ThinkDB and DocstoGo are the two where sorting through lists of files is a bit tedious. . .

Anita

[jsp91470]

FYI, in response to the "Zlauncher Group" thread, I have created a pilot group on my web site. This is a whole board devoted to Zlauncher. I will leave it up for a while and see what happens. If no one shows up, I'll delete it. URL is http://zlauncher.jeffpowell.com.

[cbulock]

Although there is another thread about this, I thought it should be pointed out here too. At PalmGear, you can download ZLauncher v2.2 beta 6. Adds tons of cool features (As usual:) )

[SuperSaiyan]

Just started the "flight test" ....very nice. I like the ability to launch an image directly into AcidImage or full preview in ZL.

[SuperSaiyan]

<BOINK>

[SJ20What]

Can the Scroll Bar within Z-Launcher be moved to the Left Side for us Leftys?

Thanks

[bobbd]

Originally posted by SJ20What
Can the Scroll Bar within Z-Launcher be moved to the Left Side for us Leftys?

Not as far as I can see from any of the options. But suggest it to ZZTechs and I'll bet you'll see it within a few releases unless there's a technical reason why not.

Bob

[abe214]

I wish Sony would learn from these guys what tech support is!

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=65219#post65219

:D

[SuperSaiyan]

I hope to see a grid icon placement capability in the near future. I't would be very nice to place icons almost anywhere on the screen and build a background to custom fit the icon placement.........we'll see.

[Newbie]

Is the CD II theme compatible with the NX series hi-res+? I have installed both files for OS 5 as instructed from the PalmGear site and it even shows up as a choice under the themes manager, but whenever I try to select it, it says that the theme in not available on the handheld??? I don't know what I could be doing wrong... does anyone have any suggestions or advice?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Newbie
Is the CD II theme compatible with the NX series hi-res+? I have installed both files for OS 5 as instructed from the PalmGear site and it even shows up as a choice under the themes manager, but whenever I try to select it, it says that the theme in not available on the handheld??? I don't know what I could be doing wrong... does anyone have any suggestions or advice?

Get if from here as I found the one at Palmgear did not work on my NX either.
http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=2935

[iebnn]

Originally posted by abe214
I wish Sony would learn from these guys what tech support is!

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=65219#post65219

:D

Sony is a HUGE corporation that undoubtedly gets thousands upon thousands of emails a day.... they can't hand-craft every single email reply (plus the people who respond are hired for only doing that.... you can't email the developers like with ZZTECHS). If you emailed the developers at sony with tech support questions, sure you mght get great support but they'd get so many emails that they'd get no work done :)

[eyesee]

Originally posted by Tixx


Get if from here as I found the one at Palmgear did not work on my NX either.
http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=2935

Tixx,

I'm having the same problem.&nbsp; I followed your link to the skins download page but the file has apparently been removed or something.&nbsp; Is there any way you could e-mail me the two files?&nbsp; I don't mind paying the two bucks for the skin, but I want to make sure I like it and will use it before&nbsp;I "buy."&nbsp; :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by eyesee


Tixx,

I'm having the same problem.&nbsp; I followed your link to the skins download page but the file has apparently been removed or something.&nbsp; Is there any way you could e-mail me the two files?&nbsp; I don't mind paying the two bucks for the skin, but I want to make sure I like it and will use it before&nbsp;I "buy."&nbsp; :)

PM me your e-mail as I cannot attach anything if I e-mail you from cliesource.

[Sid]

I just noticed something with 2.22 b6, and I apologize if this has already been mentioned:
Only my .jpg background images can be set as a background, the xxx_bmp.pdb files, including the default "SandBeach", can be previewed, but when selected, an error message (Sys 0502) appears, after tapping the "OK" button, there is no backimage set.
I'm using a T665.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Is this inherent to this beta, or am I seeing something else?
Thanks. :confused:

[tanker_bob]

Oops, same here on my T665C. I'll send an email to ZZTechs. Good catch!

[doulos12]

Works fine for me om my m130.

[tanker_bob]

Might be a hi res problem. I just sent an email to ZZTechs. They usually answer within a day, sometimes in a couple of hours.

[Sid]

Originally posted by tanker_bob
Oops, same here on my T665C. I'll send an email to ZZTechs. Good catch!

Thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Most of my backimages are .jpgs, so I hadn't noticed this sooner.

[tanker_bob]

All of mine but the one, SandBeach, are jpgs. I also use a couple of pgps from PictureGear. Jpgs are sooooo much smaller. :)

[Sid]

I've been trying to use GraphicConverter to change the xxx.bmp.pdb to a .jpg, but GC won't recognize the .pdb format. I'm surprised because GC is fairly powerful at image manipulation. I even used ResEdit to change the File and Creator type to that of a .bmp, but still no luck.
I'll have to wait for a fix from ZZ Techs.

[Burdie]

I went to the ZZTechs web site today and they have version 2.22B7 available for download. FWIW I downloaded it and am not having any problems with the SandBeach background.

Burdie

[sebring]

I'm using 2.22b7 and the only problem I'm having is not being able to preview .bmp images. Just get a blank screen, tapping the screen returns to Theme Manager. If I select the image, it works fine as a backimage, just can't preview. No problems at all with .jpg images. I'm using it on my NR.

[Anita]

I'm using 2.22b6 on the T665c and no problem previewing bmps -- BUT mine are true bitmaps. They are not bmp.pdbs so maybe the problem lies in the .pdb files.

However, I've got a couple of jpg.pdb files (ram files that zlauncher created pdbs on the card for) and I can preview them with no problem.

These are all on the memory stick, not in ram.

For what it's worth.

Anita

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sid
I just noticed something with 2.22 b6, and I apologize if this has already been mentioned:
Only my .jpg background images can be set as a background, the xxx_bmp.pdb files, including the default "SandBeach", can be previewed, but when selected, an error message (Sys 0502) appears, after tapping the "OK" button, there is no backimage set.
I'm using a T665.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Is this inherent to this beta, or am I seeing something else?
Thanks. :confused:

I tried it and see that happens on my NX too.

[SuperSaiyan]

Glad to see it's not just me. Nothing but .jpg's work on my NR. I also get the error when trying to load up anything else. Most of my backgrounds are jpg anyway.

I'm sure ZZTECHs will have that fixed in a snap.

-SS

[fatal mantis]

i had the same problem, if you move the bmp.pdb (or what ever it is) to internal memory it works fine on my NR.

[Sid]

Originally posted by Burdie
I went to the ZZTechs web site today and they have version 2.22B7 available for download. FWIW I downloaded it and am not having any problems with the SandBeach background.

Burdie

Thanks for the head up. I can once again preview and set the xxx.bmp.pdb files as a backimage.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by fatal mantis
i had the same problem, if you move the bmp.pdb (or what ever it is) to internal memory it works fine on my NR.

Works fine in RAM for me too. but I don't want to move them every time.

[tanker_bob]

I've been in discusssion w/ZZTechs. The new 2.22b7 should fix all the jpg problems and a few other obscure things.

Also, Li said that the BackImage function in the context menu wasn't meant for already converted images like those .pdb files. It is meant for unconverted images.

[SuperSaiyan]

v2.22b8...the features just keep coming.
Still hoping we'll eventually see an icon placement function.

[cbulock]

Has anyone noticed much difference in 2.22B8 over 2.22B7? I'm running 7 right now and have no trouble, so I think I'll just wait until the final release to uprgrade again.

[doulos12]

Features look identical. Back image bug fix?

[PDH LA]

2.2 beta 8.1 is now out.

[SuperSaiyan]

I'm having a hard time keeping up with updates.........thats a first. Wish I had time to find bugs before they fixed them lol.

[tanker_bob]

2.22b8.1 has a number of fixes to the new features, especially the display of OS 5 icon on OS 4.x devices and preview of images. YiShow's claim to fame as an image viewer is now rivaled by ZLauncher. Also improved support for Sonyhi res+. If you didn't use some of these features, you wouldn't have noticed the problems. Still, I think that it's worth updating to the new version.

[Macabre Man]

This new version just rocks!

Well worth the money I gave them

[GenoG]

Originally posted by tbellas
This new version just rocks!

Well worth the money I gave them
agreed

[MikeS16]

I think I have found a problem with the latest 2.22 release:

I put the "Refresh Apps" in the bottom bar and when I hit it I lose all of the links to my PiDirect apps. The only way to get them back is to disable and then enable PiDirect.

[kstuart]

YiShow's claim to fame as an image viewer is now rivaled by ZLauncher. Is there a way in ZL to just view images without the icons in front? (I haven't had the time to play around with the image capability.)

[zeke87]

Interesting Fact:

ZL works with my Pocketop IR keyboard! They must have changed something.

Is it just me, or is it getting faster on app icon loads?

z

[bobbd]

Originally posted by MikeS16
I think I have found a problem with the latest 2.22 release:

I put the "Refresh Apps" in the bottom bar and when I hit it I lose all of the links to my PiDirect apps. The only way to get them back is to disable and then enable PiDirect.

If you think you've found a bug, e-mail ZZTechs. They are very responsive.

Bob

[sebring]

Originally posted by kstuart
Is there a way in ZL to just view images without the icons in front? (I haven't had the time to play around with the image capability.)

You can preview any backimage now in Theme Manager, without anything in the way. Also, preview has been added to the tap and hold menu of image files, and you can launch acidimage to view images if you have v2.4n of Acid Image, by tapping Launch in the tap and hold menu of an image file.

[kstuart]

Cool, thanks.

Okay, another couple of Q's :

- Can the individual DOC files (and PLKR files) be displayed in the Detail View?

- Can the icons be removed from the Detail View? (that would make enough space to see all the rest of the info in one line)

[n2ifp]

There is a new version 2.22.1 on Palmgear. It is to replace the corrupt build 2.22 on Palmgear only. If you downloaded from Handango, your okay. It could cause freezing when accessing drop down menus.

I received this info second-hand, but I did verify that there is a v2.22.1 on Palmgear.

[SuperSaiyan]

I've seen a few new skins for ZL recently. Are there sites with interesting ZL skins that are not posted here? I really like Copperdeck II but am always looking for new designs.

-SS

&nbsp;

btw - is this a thread that should be moved to the launchers section or is this a "dead thread" now that that section has been created?

[bobbd]

Try http://www.clieskins.com and http://www.palmspirit.com . Palmspirit is a French site, but you should be able to figure it out.

Bob

[rob_squared]

The thread is not dead...

[cbulock]

Nope :)

[n2ifp]

I suppose it just had to age for awhile ;)

[SuperSaiyan]

Wow.........what was ZL up to when we started this thread? 2.0? Glad it was resurrected. :-)

[ksjenkins]

I wonder how fast ZL will upgrade for the UX's Landscape mode?? ZL has been unusually quiet of late.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by ksjenkins
I wonder how fast ZL will upgrade for the UX's Landscape mode?? ZL has been unusually quiet of late.

The way Li works, he'll have it ready in no time at all. He is also working on some other stuff, "Palm Insider" is one app(donate ware) found on PG.

[SuperSaiyan]

I wonder if ZZTECH has any new "ground breaking" features planned for the next upate. I can't wait to crank up ZL on a UX or *whispers* a possible T3 this fall. My NR is ready for the PDA museum.

What is Palm Insider (app)?

[Sid]

Originally posted by SuperSaiyan
<snip>
What is Palm Insider (app)?

It looks like the "Info" screen from ZL, but also provides more actual info about your handheld.

[n2ifp]

To: SuperSaiyan

Application Description:

Palm!Insider is designed for advanced users who are interested in looking inside the system and know their PalmOS Powered devices better. With Palm!Insider, you can be easier to become an expert on PalmOS platform.

http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&sid=38F605D1-97B0-4E69-B73947A8346455EF&prodID=48941