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stevec
06-24-2005, 06:16 AM
I was looking around for a GPS mapping package for myT5 - mainly for use in the UK but also one or two countries in mainland Europe. My shortlist came down to two:

a) Navman 4470, and
b) tomtom Navigator 5.

A business trip to Berlin this week, and the need to drive myself around, moved the quest up a notch. tomtom ruled their Navigator package out as their website still says "available soon" - even though they're emailing to say updates to teh software are available - confusing messages. Navtec's package is probably the best value for a single country but, in order to get a second country, they told me I'd have to buy the full map package - they won't sell single country unlocks to Palm users (the package comes with all maps, but only one set unlocked)!

Somebody on this forum mentioned viaMichelin in a posting and I downloaded one of their city maps to see what it was like. Looked good (especially as it also runs on a PC/laptop), so viaMichelin went onto my shortlist. Now for the GPS...

Navtec's 4470 is available solo, but there are others. The new Holux GPSlim236 looks very good and I ordered one - only to be told they weren't yet in the UK (delayed due to firmware patches needed, apparently); it should be a good GPS to look at when it arrives. However, I still needed a unit and found a dealer selling the new tomtom Bluetooth unit - so I bought it.

The viaMichelin maps work great and directions, rerouting, etc do just what you want when driving.

The tomtom GPS unit works great, too. It tracks fine just lying on the car dashboard (or in my trouser pocket when walking around the city) - never noticed it lose its track, other than when I was sat in a queue in a tunnel - and it regained its position almost instantaneously when I got out again.

The viaMichelin map package, as I said above, works on a PC as well, so I can rough out routes on that. You don't need to load all the maps (or even a whole country) on your Palm if memory is tight - you can select areas and level of detail on the PC and just HotSync what you need. With a 512MB SD card, however, a couple of country maps are no problem for me.

Drawbacks? Buying separately costs more. And the tomtom GPS, whilst Bluetooth and is recognised by my laptop's Bluetooth software (native XP SP2), I can't get it to work with the maps on it. tomtom tell me their GPS will not work with a PC - not sure how/why they've made it like that but I asked and they confirmed it won't work.

Recommendations? The viaMichelin maps are well worth putting on your shortlist. The tomtom GPS is a very nice unit, well designed and ideal for use with a PDA. However, if you want one to use with your PC/laptop as well, look elsewhere - I'd probably give the Holux 236 a try if I was buying again.

oz-nom
06-24-2005, 07:17 AM
Thanks for the details. Have you got websites for the above. (I know I could google for them, but... :))

stevec
06-24-2005, 09:08 AM
Addresses I used (UK based):

viaMichelin is at www.viamichelin.co.uk or http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/psg/produits/htm/pda_gamme.htm to go to the PDA area. They've route planning and full navigation packages as well as stand-alone maps, plus PDA versions of their hotel/restaurant guides (which link into their mapping programs).

I bought my tomtom GPS from Handtec (www.handtec.com). Gadgets & Gizmos (http://www.gadget-and-gizmos.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/98) were very helpful about the Holux (who are at www.holux.co.uk).

stevec
10-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Update:

The tomtom GPS has been excellent so far. Not usable with a PC/laptop but has proved to be sensitive and reliable.

I wish I could say I've continued to be impressed with viaMichelin. There are some significant errors on the map database (the streets seem OK but don't rely on it placing you in the correct town centre - it currently has Kirkcaldy in the middle of Dunfermline, Bathgate in Livingstone and Bridlington in Beverley)! They also seem to have missed a few road changes (probably just within the last 2/3 years so not too much of an issue).

The biggest problem so far, though, is in the way the program keeps needing to reboot my T5 - tonight it got into a loop that's needed a lot of hacking to get out of (not something you want to be doing on the road!!

Michelin say there's a new version coming out in November - if I was still looking to buy and could wait, I'd see how that fares (though let some other mugs test it first). If I had to buy now, then I think I'd be buying the tomtom software.

RichieFarmer
10-06-2005, 09:41 AM
I was thinking about getting a TomTom standalone device, either the GO 300 or 700. It sounds like you all like the software. Would you recommend them?

stevec
10-06-2005, 02:32 PM
My father bought the tomtom 300 (annoying as I was going to buy it for him for Christmas) but he was impressed with what my T5 did and felt it would take the pressure off my mother when they were driving around. His first trip was from their home in Somerset to NE Scotland, via an aunt in Manchester and he was very pleased.

He's not very computer literate and managed to get it to work OK. When I got my paws on it, I dug into the settings and refined it for him. I used it on a trip with him and I like it. No mapping software is perfect but it looks as good as any other for the UK, and the interface is straightforward. I'd certainly recommend anyone looking for a standalone to put it high on their shortlist.

aspidoras
10-06-2005, 09:28 PM
Hi Palm Users
I am new to the whole podcast and palm forums scene. I have really enjoyed the great podcasts from Jeff and Alan. One thing I have never heard mentioned by anyone who is interested in GPS for their Bluetooth enabled palm's is the great software and hardware combo from Delorme : http://www.delorme.com/bluelogger/default.asp
I have been using this software/hardware combo for over a year now and it is a great system for PDA's. The mapping software from Delorme has never been very user friendly, but the the Earthmate Blue Logger GPS receiver is a fantastic piece of hardware. Hope this gets more folks interested in the lower cost GPS solutions. The whole software and hardware combo is only $150. http://www.delorme.com/bluelogger/order.asp
Hard to beat that. I have a Z72 and a T5 and it works great on both.
KevinN

RichieFarmer
10-12-2005, 12:30 PM
My father bought the tomtom 300 (annoying as I was going to buy it for him for Christmas) but he was impressed with what my T5 did and felt it would take the pressure off my mother when they were driving around. His first trip was from their home in Somerset to NE Scotland, via an aunt in Manchester and he was very pleased.

He's not very computer literate and managed to get it to work OK. When I got my paws on it, I dug into the settings and refined it for him. I used it on a trip with him and I like it. No mapping software is perfect but it looks as good as any other for the UK, and the interface is straightforward. I'd certainly recommend anyone looking for a standalone to put it high on their shortlist.

That's great, thanks for the repsonse. I think the GO 300 is going to be my best option. I like that it's supposed to be really easy to use and setup. Thanks again.